May 05, 2016

Why saying “Muslims are the new Jews” is wrong, factually -- and morally

Rebel Staff
 

I hear it a lot: “We have to support the wave of mass Muslim migration to the west because of what happened to the Jews 75 years ago. The Muslims are the new Jews. You wouldn’t send the Jews back to Hitler’s Germany, would you?”

Except that, 75 years ago, Jews were fleeing the Holocaust, Hitler's “final solution” to kill every Jew in the world.

Today, there is no Holocaust against Muslims. That whole “wipe out other people thing”? It’s pretty much the Muslims doing it.

The would-be Hitler today is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the dictator of the Islamic State. They’re slaughtering a small religious group called Yezidis.

Yes, they kill some other Muslims, too. But that’s not “genocide." It’s civil war.

Secondly, in the Nazi Holocaust, the Jews had nowhere to flee.

While today, there are 22 countries in the Arab League, and 57 countries in the Saudi-led Organization for Islamic Cooperation.

More than a quarter of the countries in the world are Muslim -- but they're the ones refusing to take in "refugees."

Back in January, some “refugees” said they wanted to go back to the Middle East already, because their accommodations in Canada were not as luxurious as they’d hoped.

Could you imagine a Jew fleeing the Holocaust and coming to Canada, then complaining that his hotel accommodations weren’t good enough — so he was thinking of going back to Berlin?

I've got a much more accurate analogy for today's situation.

WATCH and see what it is...


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commented 2016-05-11 01:14:21 -0400
I am a Christian, trying to be a good Christian.

Ezra Levant should be ashamed of himself.
commented 2016-05-08 00:12:36 -0400
So Jay,

You are a Muslim?

DJBT
commented 2016-05-08 00:07:07 -0400
It is difficult today for a Christian to explain why he stands with Muslims who feel that they are being demonized in Canada.

I has to do with the Cross. For Muslims the idea that a Prophet would be persecuted is understandable, but that a prophet would be tortured and and put to death is far-fetched.

That Jesus Christ would enter into suffering and death, and enter into death, so that “all might be saved” is too much to go for.

Muslim Canadians demand to know what the Cross symbolizes. Sadly, the most common responses are “hate” and “ignorance”.

We can do better than that.
commented 2016-05-07 18:18:13 -0400
Jay is still an apologist for Muslims. Why is the Muslim outrage aver the recent beheading of a Canadian citizen.
Nada, not a word not even a peep. However, we keep on hearing of their righteous indignation at seeing a Christian cross. It insults them.
There was a demand made by Muslims to have the cross which stands atop of Mount Royal in Montreal because it offended them. That cross was there to commemorate something. It is a part of OUR history weather you are Christian, Jew or Buddhist. If the Muslims want it removed, there will have a really big fight on their hands. It is time to take a stand against their demands and their ideology.
Is not one of their symbols a crescent moon? Are Christians asking them to remove the crescent moon. Indeed, the Muslims would be hard pressed to do so since the moon goes through various states including a crescent.
Well, I for one am insulted when I see a Muslim wearing a burka or a veil. What are these people better than us?
commented 2016-05-07 14:42:51 -0400
Those who have Muslims friends know that they are human. Those who have the opportunity to visit a Mosque in Canada know much more. Active Muslims in Canada are such a diverse lot: people whose families have been here for generations, others of European background, Arabs, Pakistanis, black Americans and on and on.

In Europe in the 1930’s there was a campaign against Jews, beginning with the idea that they were all alike and not to be trusted. Once people bought into the hype it made it a lot easier to turn a blind eye to injustice, and eventually even to the Holocaust.

Some commenters on here have bought into the hype about Muslims — that they are all alike and not to be trusted. It is not Muslims who become de-humanized in this campaign, it is those who go along with it.
commented 2016-05-07 12:57:37 -0400
The only thing that appears to be ‘factual’ about Jay’s copied comments below are that his ‘feel good’ positions are formed by others around an extreme ‘leftist’ narrative and lack any discernment of actual truth, or, application of context. The article of reference he refers to is that of a well known hard line ‘social engineer’, for whom, cherry picks the content and completely dismisses the reality of the entire human condition or appropriate context.
In a similar fashion, John’s comments below also lack any discernment of actual truth or appropriate context. John, the non-interventionist, certainly appears to want to strongly ‘intervene’, ‘condemn’ and further ‘proselytize’ his supremacist delusions whenever someone does not buy into his narrative.
An important distinction to note is that even when facts are accurate, without proper context, facts can be manipulated into whatever agenda is being served. Without proper context (the most critical element in any situation), the facts can be distorted to a point where truth is replaced with gross falsehood, as we are subjected to repetitively and bombarded with on a daily basis in all facets of life.
Perhaps the following short videos can offer some perspective:
https://www.prageru.com/courses/left-and-right-differences/does-it-feel-good-or-does-it-do-good-left-vs-right-2
https://www.prageru.com/courses/left-and-right-differences/how-do-you-deal-painful-truths-left-vs-right-4
https://www.prageru.com/courses/left-and-right-differences/how-do-we-make-society-better-left-vs-right-5
commented 2016-05-06 22:17:31 -0400
@ More of John’s nonsense: “When comparing all three religions, they should all be treated the same since all religions are guaranteed the same freedoms in Canada.”
First of all, Islam is not a religion, it’s a supremacist political theocracy.

Religious freedumbs? How many schools do you know of that allow their gymnasiums to be turned into churches or synagogues, their students to leave class to pray, and their cafeterias to carry nothing but Christian or Kosher foods? Christian prayer in schools was abolished decades ago. And yet – school gyms across Canada are now mosques where kids get to skip classes to pray, and school cafeterias serve Halal foods only. Islam is being lavished with preferential treatment over all other belief systems by politicians around the world, but especially Canada. In Canada the Islamics receive special treatment from both the state media outlets and the government itself. If you think I’m wrong, look how our Prime Ministurd jumps and runs to BC for selfies when an Islamic gets pepper sprayed or an Imam torches his own mosque, while refusing to go to Alberta when there’s a massive wildfire and hundreds of thousands of victims of all faiths and creeds. He spends billions of our money to bring Islamic invaders here and lavish them with handouts, but spends a pittance on the Fort Mac victims who actually need the help.

“What I do agree with is that so-called Christians tend to think that all religions are beneath them.”
Oh really? So which “religion’s” holy books instruct followers that non-believing women and children are given to them by their god as sex slaves to be raped? Which religion instructs adherents that they have the right and the duty to murder unbelievers? Which religion sanctions the rape of newborn infants and beating and murder of its women in its regressive laws? Which religion counsels its followers to lie to non-believers to advance their “holy war” jihad? Which religion categorizes non-believers as savages, animals, and of course slaves, to be murdered or enslaved if they won’t convert? Which religion demands that homosexuals be thrown off of tall buildings? Which religion instructs its followers to invade and take over all lands they encounter (“hijrah”)? Hint: Not the Christians, and not the Jews.
The supremacist savagery of your beloved Islam makes the Mansons, KKK and the Nazis put together, look like innocent choirboys.

And you like to mention “open-mindedness” over and over ad nauseum. News flash: as you’ve amply demonstrated here, too much open-mindedness leads to your brain falling out.
commented 2016-05-06 19:28:36 -0400
Actually, based on empirical evidence so far, the muslims are the new Nazis. Never forget it!
commented 2016-05-06 16:49:39 -0400
Rebel simply does not care if there is a world war 3 scenario between BRICS and NATO. They do not care if there is a possible nuclear war or conscription.

Many on here do not check RT or other sites to find out alternative news to the mainstream which I couple Rebel with because they do not cover all the stories that Internet sites post, small Youtube news channels and other networks worldwide.

That alone says that many on here are massively close-minded and unwilling to change.

This has nothing to do with the Liberals or Tories or NDP. Frankly, they are boring parties that consolidate power and refuse to relinquish power. I would prefer more parties being allowed to debates and being given a chance at gaining real power.

This has nothing to do with attending post-secondary institutions which are supposedly liberal, but facts are generally liberal because anything that guarantees good policy is usually evidence-based.

When comparing all three religions, they should all be treated the same since all religions are guaranteed the same freedoms in Canada. What I do agree with is that so-called Christians tend to think that all religions are beneath them. I view peaceful Christians as more closer to Jesus than the warlike, interventionist and pro-death penalty ones and the ones that claim to be rapturist.
commented 2016-05-06 16:41:04 -0400
These people on Rebel simply do not understand that every minor party in Canada is basically non-interventionist.

They have chosen these positions because I feel they have nothing to lose. It is nice to believe that they hold these positions to make the world and better place and try to aim for less war, less conflict, diplomacy, mediation and getting the other nations there to do the work.

Canada like every other nation in the West has wasted years of treasure on this War on Terror.

What I find fascinating is how Rebel does not ever talk about the Germans sending troops next to the Russian border, and the same goes with the mainstream media. It seems like Rebel is just a partisan network only aiming for conservative parties to win rather than bringing up independent news. They claim to be independent yet they are cheerleading for a mainstream party aka the Conservative party. That alone tells you everything that you need to know about the narrow agenda.
commented 2016-05-06 13:38:19 -0400
An article in The Guardian speaks of the parallels in Britain: “Current bigotry against asylum seekers, it’s chilling to discover, closely mimics prewar anti-Jewish sentiments, and in both instances has been legitimised by British immigration policy.” Further: “Today, asylum seekers are routinely accused of fomenting the racism that they encounter. Similarly, cabinet minutes of 1945 claimed that ‘the admission of a further batch of refugees, many of whom would be Jews, might provoke strong reactions from certain sections of public opinion. There was a real risk of a wave of anti-semitic feeling in this country.’”
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2002/jun/08/immigration.immigrationandpublicservices

Canada’s history is far from pristine when it came to welcoming Jewish refugees. But it is no excuse to say we were intolerant then so we can be intolerant now.

Ezra Levant should be ashamed of himself.
commented 2016-05-06 08:58:15 -0400
Jay and John,
Top of the list in Islamic mouthpieces.
These people sound like they have led sheltered lives, attended institutes of higher liberal education and live off government hand outs.
They are also possibly Islamic terrorists who are hiding behind Internet anonymity.
If so or even if not, may Mohamed rot in hell.

DJBT!
commented 2016-05-06 05:41:39 -0400
Islamic terrorists are in partnership with today’s socialists – numbskulls make the comparison to WW2.
commented 2016-05-06 03:55:28 -0400
Good grief Jay Kelly… “In the 1930’s Canada proved itself more willing to accept refugees”?????? Find the book called ‘none is too many’.. and read it.
commented 2016-05-06 02:46:20 -0400
In attempting to clear up some possible confusion, and since facts are so important, below are a few more facts worth considering. Patti is quite correct. The self-professed peace and harmony, mind-my-own-business poster, unfortunately, appears to have had either educated themselves from non-integrous sources, or, has intentionally omitted important facts that does not fit his brainwashed narrative (Not an attack, just a reasonable observation).
And if anyone thinks the UN is pro-peace, they had better think again because the UN is essentially diametrically opposite today from what it was when it was originally created. Most people don’t even realize this critical point.
For anyone that proclaims to be non-interventionist, anti-war, and peace loving, it would appear that proselytizing falsehood and failing to respect any other opinions or integrous sources of information, or the collaborative discernment of truth, is symptomatic of much repressed and compartmentalized guilt and self-hate manifesting as denial, belligerence and projection, for which, could certainly incite hostilities and even war. A person of this infliction seemingly are trying to create the very things they profess to oppose. May it be suggested that some introspection may be worthwhile? A good test to use frequently would be to ask oneself, “What if, just even maybe, I am wrong”? “Can I handle that?”
Further to the discussion in this thread, the one thing that few people actually know was that Hilter surprisingly started out with good intentions for Germany, however, once he was Fuhrer, he soon became obsessed with power and also developed a burning hatred of Jews since he blamed WW1 on the Jews. In his quest to take over all of Europe and exterminate the Jews, Hitler and the Nazi regime’s goals were very similar to that of Al-Husseini’s quest to take over the area we know as the Middle East along with his relentless anti-Zionism, Jewish eradication intentions, for which, the two formed an alliance.
Furthermore, it was Hilter’s commissioning of the massive buildup of Germany’s military that created Germany’s economic boom, which virtually collapsed when WWII ended. After WWII, Germany and the Western Bloc was resurrected with foreign aid, much of it coming from the U.S. through the American Marshall Plan (for which, is usually always omitted from the facts when attacking the Americans).
Here as some very informative short videos from highly respected sources:
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/un-fair-israel
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/middle-east-problem
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/israels-legal-founding
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/are-israeli-settlements-barrier-peace
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/israel-worlds-most-moral-army
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/why-are-there-still-palestinian-refugees
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/worlds-most-persecuted-minority-christians
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/radical-islam-most-dangerous-ideology
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/why-america-invaded-iraq
https://www.prageru.com/courses/political-science/should-america-be-worlds-policeman
commented 2016-05-06 01:52:37 -0400
It is not hatred to wish to save your country when it’s in danger, Jay Kelly. When there are current clerics who are scholars of Islamic law, Yunis Al Astal, who are hoping to complete what they once almost did, conquer Europe and North America who is now saying in his speech: “Very soon, Allah willing, Rome will be conquered , just like Constantinople (Turkey)….this capital of theirs will be an advanced post for the Islamic conquests which will spread through Europe in its entirety and then will turn to the two Americas and even Eastern Europe.” Or “The jihad will lead to smashing Western civilization and replacing it with Islam which will dominate the world”. Muhammad Mahdi Akef, Muslim Brotherhood and “Thanks to your democrstic laws we will invade you. Thanks to our religious laws we will dominate you.” Muslim leader for the Synod of European Bishops which had gathered in Rome.
Do you hear Western Christian leaders saying they are going to take over the Middle East or Muslim countries? No. Islam does not even allow a church to be built in their countries. Their only tolerance is intolerance. And their law, Sharia is the antithesis to democracy.
commented 2016-05-05 23:30:34 -0400
Ezra gives his frank and blunt monologue and, far more clearly than usual, reveals his hatred of all Muslims and willingness to see them suffer.

Yes, the Syrian refugees today are like the Jews escaping the Holocaust in the 1930’s. Parents, whose towns have already been bombed or threatened, desperate to find a safe place for their children.

“Some of them say they want to go back home” of course. But they cannot because “home” is not safe.

In the 1930’s Canada proved itself more willing to accept refugees than most other countries, including Britain. We are doing it again. There were many who warned then of the insidiousness of the Jews, but as a whole at that time Canada felt generosity and compassion could overcome hatred.

Hundreds of thousands of Syrian refugees living in camps in Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey. Risking life and limb to get somewhere safer.

Ezra’s response is to generalize and demonize all Muslims. Why? Who knows.

What we do know is that self-centered hatred of others does not need to win out.
commented 2016-05-05 23:12:23 -0400
Also, if you have to live your life based on a control mechanism such as what happened before you were born like what happened in Germany then that is a form of control.

Fear is another control mechanism because with fear you cannot think straight.

That is why it is better to be open-minded and like Trump and Sanders embrace a more moderate and balanced foreign policy.
commented 2016-05-05 22:59:31 -0400
Well the basis for the interventionist foreign policy is to advocate for war and to suggest that if we don’t that we are going to be appeasers and be like Chamberlain. That is the basis of the neocon foreign policy. Even Trump has acknowledged that the US has gotten too militaristic and “too big for your britches”. That is the honest truth.

I am also suggesting that 4 wars have been launched with very little success and that 9/11 was the event to set the stage for the wars. You are being a conspiracy theorist by suggesting that only Jews suffered in world war 2 when many groups did. That is akin to revisionist history.

Muslims have suffered as a result from Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and now Syria and Iraq again by the US sending troops there under lies.

Hitler started a world war because of all the events leading up to the war and Hitler’s Germany had a value based currency which got Germany out of hyperinflation and the financiers hated that Germany had freed itself and its economy from the hyperinflationary spiral. That is something you are never told. All you know from school is Germany invaded Poland and the war began but you know nothing about the preceding events, including Churchill wanting in the mid 30’s a war with Germany even if Germany wanted it or not.

I am by no means defending Hitler but lies are necessary to get people into war and like all wars the most vulnerable suffer such as the average Muslim. You are so blinded by your Muslim hatred you cannot even see straight. This has nothing to do with being pro-Islam or anti-Islam but I am a non-interventionist and someone that wants the wars to end.
commented 2016-05-05 22:35:25 -0400
@ John Siciliano – if you want to write a novel full of hogwash, set up a blog – preferably on a liberal pro-Islam site where people will be dumb enough to actually read it in its entirety without bursting out laughing. If anyone is “using words to set up an agenda” that would be you, in spades.

Since you like to whine for your poor pitiful Muslims and spout WWII era history, here’s a little tidbit which you Islamoliberals do your best to suppress. Hitler was pressured into starting the Holocaust by – one of your precious Muslims. The leader of the Muslims back then, and Hitler’s close pal, whose name was Grand Mufti Amin Al-Husseini. Hitler planned to exile the Jews to the Middle East. Of course a Jew-hating Muslim wouldn’t want that, so Al-Husseini agreed to muster Muslim SS divisions in Europe and North Africa in exchange for Hitler exterminating the Jews. “Burn them” is what he told Hitler to do. He then moved to Berlin, where he spent the war at Hitler’s side, overseeing the creation and running of all of the camps in Europe, as well as similar installations in the Middle East. Himmler reported to him. As a typical slimy Muslim, Al-Husseini managed to escape Germany before it fell, and continued his evil Islamist ways for years after the war.

Now what was that about your poor pitiful Muslims and their suffering at the hands of the nasty old Western Interventions? I’ll keep my crying towel dry – until I’m finished laughing to tears at your Islamist revisionist nonsense, that is.
commented 2016-05-05 20:48:22 -0400
Everything that Rebel wants to use is about either world war 2 or Jews which is central to the talking points of the interventionist foreign policy. That foreign policy suggests that without interventionism everything will go back to Chamberlain or Carter when that does not hold water. It is an argument based in stupidity and it is not historical because nations should choose for themselves how they wish to act. They should not be guided by special interests like Israel being central to a foreign policy or giving money to a foreign policy or having to fight every war when most since 2001 have resulted in ever worsening outcomes. It is suggested that when people use such examples as Nazis or WW2 or appeaser that they are just devolving to talking points, and such people are not using history but using words to sell an agenda.

The fact is Muslims have suffered the most from Western intervention since 2001 than any other group. War is more prevalent with talks about having these wars last 100 years. This was evident by what Wesley Clark said in 1998 and then again in 2003 about the US at the time being the world’s sole superpower, and they need to exert their force and supposedly act that way by being militaristic. This was known as the Project for a New American Century which is headed by neocons like Cheney and Bolton in the United States. That is something which Rebel will never talk about. The US also kicked out the democratically-elected Yanukovych in 2013-14. How is that to behave like a nation that supposedly is for international law, respecting democracy and wanting national sovereignty or nations truly deciding for themselves. That sounds like an empire that has to flex its muscle and do whatever it chooses overseas. The world has to call for nations and peoples being able to decide for themselves how they want to chart their futures. Otherwise, the wars will continue and people will wonder how we got here and how to proceed forward and everything will be about scapegoating and blame. It is rather simple to solve this. What needs to happen first is to focus on nation first and others second.

Also, Muslims have suffered the most from US invasions and the fact is with more wars the Middle East will simply not have anyone to live in those nations but live in our own nation? Of course, why should we let facts stand in the way of a network trying to influence future elections. I think that for the migrants to go back the Middle East must be stable and it is up to the nations there to handle the situations for themselves.
commented 2016-05-05 19:17:19 -0400
Unfortunately, as mentioned in a previous show, we do not have requirements for western history in either public school or post secondary. Today’s youth have no concept that our civilization is derived from pagan, Jew, Christian, and, yes, Muslim thinkers. Thinking being key. It was added to by Sikhs, Hindu, Buhdist, Jain, Tao, etc as the west devolved. The west HAD the true ability to absorb and respect differences, no longer.

And to equate the Syrian migrants with 1933 Jews? It shows how our educational system is pure, unadulterated male bovine excrement. Glad I was educated when I was; when thoughts were based on facts.
commented 2016-05-05 19:14:06 -0400
Other Muslim Countries will not take in Migrants because if they did, it would mean less Muslims available for Hijrah or Jihad by immigration.

It was a Liberal PM who refused Jews entry into Canada, back in the 40s.
commented 2016-05-05 18:07:14 -0400
Well said, Ezra.
The only ones that support and enable this invasion are the ignorant and arrogant apologists, as well as, the malignant messianic megalomaniacs seeking recruits.