March 12, 2016

Wildrose narrowly leads NDP in super tight 4-way Calgary-Greenway byelection: poll

Rebel Staff

Neck and neck doesn't even begin to do this justice.

Wildrose candidate Devinder Toor may be ahead, but it's looking like it will be a photo finish.

According to a new poll done by Abingdon Research, among decided voters, 25.3 per cent support the Wildrose, 24.7 per cent support the NDP, 23.4 per cent support the Alberta Liberals and 21.8 per cent support the PC Party.

Metro states that the poll was of 300 residents in Calgary Greenway done by live telephone interview from March 2 to 7, 2016. The margin of error is +/- 5.7 per cent, 19 times out of 20.

Another poll, this one done by Mainstreet Research for Postmedia, has the PC Party ahead at 31 per cent, followed by the NDP, at 24 then the Wildrose at 22 and then the Liberals with 21.

The second place candidate in both polls, Roop Rai of the NDP, has made some controversial comments. She claimed that Alberta relies 100% on oil, which is false. She also suggested that because her husband lost his job, she's only running because of the salary that comes with being an MLA.

The super tight 4-way race will certainly be interesting to watch with the byelection set for March 22.

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commented 2016-03-18 20:07:57 -0400
this looks like it could turn into a replay of last years provincial fiasco, Wild rose and the PC`s have to figure this out and soon
commented 2016-03-15 16:18:34 -0400
If voters don’t even vote to protect their own jobs, or for prosperity that benefits them also, then no one will sympathize with them.
commented 2016-03-15 00:16:56 -0400
In 1972 the unthinkable happened. WAC Bennett’s Social Credit Party fell from grace and Dave Barrett’s NDP won. At the time there were many centre of right political parties. Bill Bennett Jr. united those parties and defeated Barrett’s NDP in 1975. The damage was already done. ICBC, BC Assessment Authority, bigger government ECT. Do we want this to happen in Alberta?
commented 2016-03-14 23:25:03 -0400
RE: Canadian Mongrel commented 1 day ago
Richard Sieben,

I do not follow your logic
commented 2016-03-14 23:22:08 -0400
Alberta cannot afford another NDP victory. We cannot afford Notley’s economic sanctions on the oil and gas industry. We cannot afford taxpayer money wasted on failing green technology. We cannot afford compensation to coal fire energy workers who lose their jobs resulting discontinuation of clean burning coal firing plants. We cannot a afford bigger government. We cannot afford to pay higher minimum wages. We cannot afford higher transfer payments to freeloaders from abroad and our unfortunate. We cannot afford a lack of investor confidence in Alberta. We cannot afford provincialization of businesses such as or Registries and Auto insurance. WE CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER NDP TERM. Time to unite Wildrose and the PCs under ONE banner!
commented 2016-03-14 19:43:25 -0400
Susan, I guess there might be some similarities but on to the extent that the WildRose holds to more conservative values, but not to the extent that the Reform party had a fair amount of religious (Christian) fundamentals in it. The Wild Rose party may have Christians in it, but its policies are not Christian, but conservative.

At least that is my take on the party. I am certain there are those who disagree with me, especially those who want to demonize the party for their own purposes.
commented 2016-03-14 19:09:11 -0400
PETER NETTERVILLE, is Wild Rose like the Reform Party > Canadian Alliance party of days gone by? I really do not know so I am asking. They merged with the Consevatives.
commented 2016-03-14 19:03:03 -0400
This concerns me it just shows how many Socialists’ have a foothold in this country!
Look at Manitoba people just screaming about the lying Greg Sellinger NDP Government who likes to raise Taxes – Raised PST from 7% to 8% after having promised not to raise Taxes last election, now on April 19, 2016 – Manitoba is set to have an election and it is going to be close because the city of Winnipeg has many NDP supporters in it as well as a high Indigenous population! Who in actuality when one examines the transactions that have been taking place have actually been done in by the NDP!
commented 2016-03-14 18:19:42 -0400
Great. With a four way split the NDP will win with 25%.
commented 2016-03-14 17:37:45 -0400
“There are Canadians across the country who want nothing more than for Albertans to regain control of their province, for themselves and the good of Canada as a whole.”

No doubt, through they appear to be as quiet about their support as the WildRose is about their opposition.

And then you have those people who are voting for the PC party thinking that they are voting for a conservative party, but in fact they are voting for just another left wing big government big spending big taxes government. Those people might as well just vote for the NDP and drop the pretense of believing they are actual conservatives, because they are not. Either that of they are just not paying attention to what their beloved PC party did while in government, because the PC party is in no way conservative at all anymore.
commented 2016-03-14 16:30:23 -0400
I wish Wildrose, being the official opposition and having more seats than the cons, could lead the way. I wouldn’t trust the Alberta cons, but they would have to be better than the NDP, and merged with WR. they would be slightly watered down. However, Wildrose was strong before Danielle Smith put a wrench in things. How can that strength be regained, so that the danger of a vote split is minimized? Can it be regained?
I will be the first to admit that I don’t know what I’m talking about, I spent over a decade in Alberta and identify with what every true Albertan holds dear,’ freedom to work hard and do for themselves’. There are Canadians across the country who want nothing more than for Albertans to regain control of their province, for themselves and the good of Canada as a whole.
commented 2016-03-14 16:08:28 -0400
Liza speaks sanity.

If the PC and WildRose do not get their act together then we will have the NDP forever. If I had no choice I would vote for the PCs again if only to get rid of these destroyers we have now, but I would much rather have the PC move back to traditional conservative values.

Notice I said conservative, not Christian. The two really are different even though some because of their hatred for Christianity reject conservative values. What’s that saying … oh, yea, “Throwing out the baby with the bath water.”
commented 2016-03-14 16:00:43 -0400
Alberta Buck said, “I’ll answer that as frankly and bluntly as possible while trying to be polite.”

I should hope so because I am trying to have a reasonable mature conversation with you. There is no need for any anger, hatred or insults, is there?

“… they are for the most part unelectable … No matter how many times your people are told you selected the wrong person …”

Isn’t that a matter of opinion, though? Understood. You do not like the candidates. That does not make then unelectable, but just unelectable in your opinion.

“… and while old school far right values with a religious base were a good thing, … "

Are the following values and beliefs religious in nature?

1) smaller government
2) lower taxes both personal and corporate
3) less social programs and more individual responsibility. Only a few social programs kept in tight reign.
3) charities run on donations from individuals, not the government.
4) teaching the fundamentals in school such as, reading, writing, math, history, etc. (not activism, not 6 genders)
5) focus on the family unit is essential to a strong society. Parents raise children only, not the schools.
6) true free speech, not the “you have free speech except …” we have now.
7) the right to defend family, yourself, and your property.
8) the sanctity of life
9) unbiased media
10) free markets

Many people mistakenly equate conservative values with Christianity. That is a false premise. All the above list are traditional conservative values, but none are the hated “Christian” values.

Okay, so the Wildrose is out for you, but are you then saying that we must accept the left leaning/socialist values of the PC party because “the times they are a changin’?”

That I do not accept. I do not accept the attitude “move your values to the left/progressive” to keep up with the times.
commented 2016-03-14 15:49:43 -0400
Someone mentioned ironing out the details/differences later. What’s wrong with holding your noses, uniting forces to get the NDP the hell out, and then splitting off or reforming. Redford is dead, Prentice is dead, and Danielle may as well be. You’ll be punishing no one but yourselves if you split the vote again. It is the definition of insanity. Did it work last time?? Actually you won’t just be punishing yourselves, the whole country will suffer. For God’s sake take a lesson from Brad Wall, make Alberta strong again and hold onto it. Sask, stands alone as the last bastion of sanity in the entire country. We could really use getting another province on track, especially Alberta. Do what you have to ensure the best chance of success.
commented 2016-03-14 15:47:18 -0400
Richard Sieben said, “If the NDP win the next election Brian Jean and the Wildrose Party will be to blame.”

commented 2016-03-14 15:43:19 -0400
PETER NETTERVILLE commented 36 mins ago
So, Alberta Buck, why are you so determined to support the PCs and not the WildRose? Why are you unmovable?

I’ll answer that as frankly and bluntly as possible while trying to be polite. I will not support the Wildrose, simply because they are for the most part unelectable and the people behind the scenes refuse to accept this and do something to change it.

A perfect example is your choice of candidate in my own riding, Athabasca Sturgeon. No matter how many times your people are told you selected the wrong person during meetings, campaigning and fundraising, you refuse to acknowledge it and even after Johnson handed him his ass on a platter the first election, you run him again and once more Johnson beats him, but this time Olson sucks off enough votes that Piquette with the NDP gets in. One has to wonder what the hell you were all thinking, you pick someone who is very much despised locally as your candidate and eminently unelectable. You didn’t just make the mistake once, you made it twice. And that is just one example of one candidate in one riding. There are many others. The writing was on the wall the Wildrose would not form government, the only ones who couldn’t or more accurately wouldn’t accept this, was the Wildrose itself. Look at the numbers of how in so many of the ridings, saw the vote on the right spread to the Wildrose enough to allow the NDP to win. To what avail I must ask was your purpose?

Then there is the powers that be behind the Wildrose. The real people behind the party, not the ones seen in public. And the politics and principles behind those same people.
Lets face it, the Alberta that us older folk knew, grew up in and loved, basically no longer exists. Times and the population has changed, and while old school far right values with a religious base were a good thing, unfortunately they don’t fly anymore in modern society. If you want to form government, you need to present a platform and people that the masses will support and elect. And while I cringe at the idea of having to turn my back on certain values and the direction society is headed, I am willing to do so to an extent, simply since it is the cost of governing. With government, there is only two places, either you are in power, or you are on the sidelines looking in. Because the Wildrose refused to acknowledge what was right under their nose, now look at the mess we are in.

As a PC supporter, don’t ever think I am not ashamed of some of the choices my party made at times. Things like the powers that be selecting Redford made me sick, but one can not cut off one’s own nose just to spite your face. You need to make the best of the bad situation and go from there. The party needs to be changed from the inside, not from the outside looking in, and certainly a merger of sorts is the only successful approach, but it needs to be done so the finished product is a party that is capable of winning seats across the province, not just in the Bible belt and the occasional riding here or there. It needs to be based on reality, not fantasy.

And Jean needs to go. He was my MP for several years, I voted for him as that, nothing personal, but he is not a leader.
commented 2016-03-14 14:59:28 -0400
Canadian Mongrel… You are entitled to your opinions, however as long as this infighting continues we will have back to back NDP majorities. We need to unite the two parties NOW or Alberta will become a have notley province and no one is to blame but ourselves. This mess happened when we elected two socialists to the PC Party… Ed Stelmach and Alison Redford.
commented 2016-03-14 14:53:57 -0400
If the NDP win the next election Brian Jean and the Wildrose Party will be to blame.
commented 2016-03-14 14:38:51 -0400
Further, Alberta Buck, why are you supporting a party that liberal/socialist? Whatever happened to their conservative values?
commented 2016-03-14 14:37:05 -0400
So, Alberta Buck, why are you so determined to support the PCs and not the WildRose? Why are you unmovable?
commented 2016-03-14 14:20:29 -0400
RON BISSETT commented 13 hours ago
NO! If you’re a true conservative, VOTE WILDROSE! Otherwise you’re just voting for the same damn thing that created this mess in the first place and allowing the NDs to think they are unstoppable! I can’t take this anymore! PUNISH THE PCs.

And there we have it, the modus operandi of the Wildrose…punish the PCs, even if it means handing over the government to the NDP. Well you accomplished what you set out to do, congratulations. Happy now? You all should be so very proud of yourselves and I’m sure Rachel thanks each and everyone of you everyday. And you call yourselves conservative and ridicule people like me? Least I and the rest who support the PC didn’t indirectly vote NDP like you all did.
commented 2016-03-14 13:32:56 -0400
Liza, it does seem that they are unwilling to shake up the status quo. You never hear from them, but I wonder just how much of that is the fact that the main st ream media refuses to report on what they are doing or if they really are that silent.

One thing is for sure, they are not silent on calling my cell and sending me emails asking for more money. I tell them each time that I will not be contributing any more until they start making themselves more vocal and more of a true opposition party, and to please forward that complain on to Brian Jean.

I wonder how many of my complains were forwarded on to Brian Jean.

Regardless, they are the only party close to conservative values in Alberta. God hhelp Alberta get back to a real true blue conservative government.
commented 2016-03-14 13:20:29 -0400
The clock is ticking. Wildrose better be planning as we speak. They also need to be more vocal, they are the opposition for cryin out loud, where are they! The only way to do it without merging with the cons is to be the best damn obvious choice, and to convince Albertans that they are. I don’t see them doing that. At least not loud enough or proud enough. They should be ragging on Notely daily. Brian Jean is too polite and too meek.
commented 2016-03-14 13:00:32 -0400
Justin, I apologize for having commented on your comments. You are obviously a troll just out to attack.

Have a nice life, Justin.
commented 2016-03-14 12:44:09 -0400
HAHAHA Peter Neville. You are saying that I have pent up anger as you defend the BS coming from a site called Rebel? Have you by any chance ever looked up the definition of the word irony?
commented 2016-03-14 12:38:38 -0400
Sarah McCullough – I understand where you are coming from, but what do we do about the split conservative vote, then? It is highly likely that the NDP will win again if the conservative voters are not under one party banner.
commented 2016-03-14 12:31:17 -0400
Justin, it is obvious you want nothing more than the bash and insult people. Try growing up instead of attacking people. There is not hing “thought provoking” in your latest verbal attack. Why are you posting here, to get your pent up anger out on people who do not deserve it?
commented 2016-03-14 12:24:11 -0400
The idea of WR merging with PC’s is ridiculous. The WR has zero debt, the PC’s are swimming in debt.
The PC’s may as well just take the word conservative out of their name and simply be called the Progressives, that word has lost all logical meaning. They have more in common with the NDP than Wild Rose.
NDP and PC’s love bloated government, overpaying (and bag licking) the snivel servants, handing out favors to friends. Notley has done nothing but cover up Tobaccogate scandal from the last disaster female lawyer premier. Who is she protecting?
Strategic voting is for defeatists and group think simpletons.
commented 2016-03-14 11:38:27 -0400
Hey Peter. I will call people fools that cite “polls” instead of polls. As I said, Abingdon research doesn’t even exist as Abingdon research, they are now Torch and they do marketing surveys, not polls. You want thought provoking, here you go. Why does the Rebel choose to claim that Abingdon research did a poll when that isn’t what they do. Why does no actual media outlet use this “poll”?

More thought provoking, how can someone like Sheila Gunn Reid be considered a journalist when she does nothing but spread her preconceptions, and write derivative rip-offs of Ann Coulter garbage?