April 22, 2016

Winnipeg mom interrogated by “busybody” child services officials for letting her kids play outside

Brian LilleyRebel Co-Founder

The other day I warned that a push to ban spanking could result in child and family services playing a bigger role in our lives as they’re given the power to seize children and now we see the case of a Winnipeg mom who found herself interrogated to the point of tears because her children were playing outside. 

Watch my video to hear the ominous situation this mother found herself in simply because she let her kids do something that used to be considered severely normal behaviour.

I wish I could say this was unusual but it’s becoming more widespread as our society becomes more hyper-vigilant and we become more comfortable with the state playing a larger role in our lives.

It’s not good for us and it’s not good for our children.

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commented 2016-04-25 14:18:54 -0400
I would also love to see some of these people who make the calls be investigated to find out if this is something they do on a regular basis or if they themselves may have some agenda or personal score they are setting and are simply using these agencies for their own benefit. I have seen it by competing animal breeding groups and also in cases where there was marital strife and one partner was out to damage the other partner’s reputation.
commented 2016-04-25 14:12:29 -0400
I hate to say but in my opinion some of these aid workers are well meaning but extreme in their own right, some of them bringing their own baggage and agendas to the complicating any solution. In some cases they are just doing their jobs and it is necessary but I think there needs to be a much more rigid screening process to make sure people are approaching these issues fairly and with sensitivity. I also have the same general feeling about animal rights activists, again most have good intentions but I have honestly met animal lovers who would if given the choice between saving a drowning child or pet would choose the pet or think it is OK to poison prepared turkeys to stop people from eating them. We cannot allow the inmates to run the asylum.
commented 2016-04-25 11:12:27 -0400
I let my 4 yr old play outside in a back yard that is fenced, secured, and child safe, sometimes without out me looking on him for several minutes at a time. I guess I should be jailed.
commented 2016-04-25 10:57:45 -0400
I am on side with all of you who say that you simply just refuse to let any and all ‘child protective services’ people ever enter you property for any reason. They have no moral right, no legal right and no business to do so. Kick them all off when they show up. No child welfare service I ever encountered has ever done any good that a good friend or neighbor or decent police constabulary can do. Social services and child ‘welfare’ is an oxymoron. If you think you need these ‘professionals’ to ‘help you’, you have already messed up your life too far.

And this is from a once-upon-a-time kid who roamed everywhere freely as a child and survived just fine.
commented 2016-04-25 08:21:41 -0400
Free time for children outside of the indoctrination centres masquerading as schools? This is dangerous . The children might even come up with a thought on their own or have some fun. Totally unacceptable.
commented 2016-04-25 06:11:54 -0400
Richard Sieben, that’s correct. I had a very unprofessional and unethical Children’s Aid worker knock on my door because the Board of Education Attendance lady who threatened me on the phone with legal action, non compliance and negligence called them. I have a son with disabilities and was working on getting him assistance as well as filling out the paperwork to home school him. I was over the 38 days or whatever it is for my son being absent over the course of the year and my son was on a long waiting list for assistance. This stupid worker who stopped by the house was in a rant saying a lot of things and the last straw was when she said my child was going to be homeless and on the streets. I kicked her off my property and told her that I would call the police and have her removed if she didn’t leave immediately. I never heard from her again. Parents have way more rights than they think with these people. I still am considering writing a letter of complaint because as I heard this wasn’t the first family this worker had accosted.
commented 2016-04-24 19:41:05 -0400
If Child Protective Services come to the door and ask to see inside your premise, you have the right to refuse them in unless they have a search warrant.
commented 2016-04-24 16:55:34 -0400
Well, I’m trying to bring up some eloquent big words, but, stupid is the only thing that comes to mind. STUPID. Playing in a fenced in back yard, what was mom thinking ? Those poor kids should have been in the house, on the couch, eating chips and playing video games. Has parenting been degraded to such a level where the kids should be unsupervised for 10 minutes. Irresponsible and neglectful. They should all be in strollers until their 18th birthday, then send them off to university where they have designated safe spaces. SHEESH, WTF
commented 2016-04-24 15:59:20 -0400
“but in this case they were simply doing their job.”

Doing their job, DAVID TREMBLAY, would have been solved by a quick look at the kids, the yard, and a few quick questions. The interrogation that the woman was subjected do has nothing to do with “doing their job”. We can only hope that these child protection workers are as diligent when they receive reports of FGM or 14 year-olds being forced into arranged marriages.
commented 2016-04-24 13:59:40 -0400
Child Protective Services at times may be over zealous but in this case they were simply doing their job. The problem in this particular case is an over paranoid busybody neighbor that probably watches fox news all day and was running low on tinfoil. CPS has to investigate if they receive a complaint and in this case they did the right thing which was nothing.
commented 2016-04-24 12:41:10 -0400
Peter Netterville – You are right in many aspects regarding my perspective on religion . But my opinion comes after a lifetime of experiences. I was raised in a very religious family and attended church every Sunday until I was 18 and went off to college . At university I took Comparative Religious Studies for two years . I have read English translations of the Koran, Talmud, Bhagavad Gita , Eightfold Noble Path and the Tibetan Book of the Dead during that period.
My current feelings are a culmination of experiences I have had with those who wear their religion on their sleeve, so to speak. There are many people who quietly go through life and live lives honouring their faith. You wouldn’t know they are religious and attend church unless they mentioned it. On the other hand I have had sorry experiences with those who are outwardly sanctimonious including members of my family. I have a close friend who is very religious and we have had wonderful talks in the past. This man has a deep abiding faith yet the personal tragedies he and his family has experienced would have me questioning any faith I had but it seems to bring him even closer to his faith.
I’ts not that I don’t like overtly religious people , it’s just that I don’t trust them. I have many examples but I will leave you with just one. I had a boss who was an Elder in his church . He would call us sinners and say we were condemned to Hell all the time. Unfortunately his boss went to the same church so we had little operational recourse to complain. The entire workforce sought union certification simply to try and deal with this man. In response the owners of the company sold the company rather than deal with the issues.
As I said , it’s not that I don’t like overtly religious people , I just don’t trust them.
commented 2016-04-24 12:03:47 -0400
The children who were not allowed out of their parent’s sight and indoctrinated with global warming BS for their entire formidable years are now the ones voting for our current government. They have been made to be fearful their entire lives and now feel the need to be protected by policy no matter what. I call it pitiful
commented 2016-04-24 11:14:50 -0400
Times have changed a great deal. I also used to play outside unsupervised. But for the children to be in their back yard and some nosy old bat calls child protection? That’s going to far. Unless there is more to this story.
commented 2016-04-23 22:39:49 -0400
I really have mixed feelings about this issue.

I too had a childhood where us kids could wander anywhere we liked, unsupervised. The only rule was to be home by the time the streetlights came on. I don’t remember us ever disobeying that rule. We sometimes went miles away, especially once we had bicycles, and that included the nearest river, where we could easily have drowned. We also went to the local swimming hole and swam unsupervised on hot summer days. The summer between Grade 7 and Grade 8, two kids at our school went on an adventure and crossed the river via the railroad bridge. Unfortunately, a train came and only one of the two boys was able to find a wide spot where he could stand safely while the train passed; the other boy was killed. Yet even then, people had perspective and realized it was a freak accident. His friends and family mourned that boy and that was the end of it. I never heard even a whisper of a suggestion that this was a matter for the courts, as in a lawsuit against CN or a case of parental neglect; it was just a very sad thing that had happened. I don’t remember any tightening of the rules for where we could go or when we had to be home after that either.

It would be very nice to think that this is the way it should be today. I’m not as sure about that as I would like to be. Twenty odd years ago, I went to a birthday party at the home of some friends in one of the Toronto suburbs. They were friends from university and had three young sons. We all had a nice time. A few weeks later, I saw a news story about an attempted abduction in that same suburb. Someone in a van had tried to grab one or more children right off the sidewalk. The story showed footage that included the street sign. I noticed that it was the same (very long) street where my friends lived. I sent them an email and mentioned the story. Not knowing their suburb very well, I asked if that was anywhere close to their house. It turned out the incident had happened AT THEIR CORNER. They lived on a corner lot, literally just a few steps from where the incident took place. In this particular case, the attempted abduction did not succeed and did not involve their children but I certainly couldn’t blame any parent for taking pains to make sure their kids were not abducted.

I don’t know if the world is actually more dangerous than it used to be or if we have only convinced ourselves that it is. Yet I think we ARE more concerned that something bad can happen than we used to be. I am strongly tempted to agree with Brian’s point that kids should not be supervised constantly and that it is bad for both kids and parents to do this. On the other hand, I’m not sure any parent could live with themselves if they let their child come to harm.

I just don’t think there’s an easy answer for this.
commented 2016-04-23 22:05:08 -0400
A few years ago my ex gave my son a phone to play with as a toy on the phone were all sorts of nude pictures I had my wife take the phone to police who referred it to social services a woman from social services phone me and told me I had a problem and needed help and it was ok for my son to see these pictures I giggled and said if I need help I am willing to get help and asked if she could refer me she told me to go to the woman’s shelter they have counseling there lol I then went to my mla there was a portion of action but more lio service then anything
commented 2016-04-23 16:07:11 -0400
Jay Kelly is an idiot.
Jay Kelly is a troll.
Jay Kelly is an idiot troll.
commented 2016-04-23 15:34:44 -0400
JAy Kelly i notice you ignore the actual story here , because it is an insane nanny state taking over and you will not acknowledge it like a coward.
commented 2016-04-23 15:33:53 -0400
Jay Kelly when did i protest about Danish children?? You are pretty sad.
commented 2016-04-23 13:57:35 -0400
Manitoba CFS is so badly mismanaged, this story barely scratches the surface. This is one of the many things the Manitoba Conservatives are going to have their hands full with due to the sheer negligence of the previous government.
commented 2016-04-23 13:52:57 -0400
F&CS people are scumbag low-lives with a false sense of moral superiority. if they don’t know you and hassle you, your best bet is to beat them within an inch of their pathetic lives…and book it.
commented 2016-04-23 11:20:06 -0400
I have a nosey neighbour and he got his kicks out of running around trying to find me in my back/front yard or in my garage. I often seen him driving by and looking at my place and laughing his face off. This started the day I moved in when he stopped his car in the street and asked me what I was doing. I let it go but after 2 1/2 years I finally confronted him and told him he was acting like a freak. His hobby is pretending he is a neighbourhood authority and he needs to know the business of everybody. This is a superiority complex and if you have an older neighbour who likes to watch you then I suggest you try to find or make more privacy. I finally decided to build an 8 foot high fence and then he started using a ladder to look into my back yard. I caught him up on the ladder one day peering into my back yard and then he started getting up on the roof of his garage. This guy is 70 years old and acting like a teenager. Beware of nosey neighbours as they have a mental problem and can cause you trouble.
commented 2016-04-23 09:58:26 -0400
Don MacDonald only wanted to include in his story that she was a “Jesus freak” because he does not like Christians, not that it really had anything to do with the story. It is a common thing for non-religious people to do. I feel sad for Don more than anything that he must blame Christianity for the obvious a-hole actions of that woman.

Christians do not claim to be perfect, nor even nice people, they just claim to have accepted Jesus’ gift for the very reason that they know they are far from being perfect and need help, lots of it. If a person was perfect, why would they need Jesus?
commented 2016-04-23 03:19:27 -0400
Drew, you protest about Danish children: “but this has been happening in Europe for a long time”. I do not think you can lay the blame on the media. Nor can you just say it is a European thing.

Gone are the days when we can just say this is a European problem. It is happening here, in Canada, and we should open our eyes.
commented 2016-04-23 02:44:39 -0400
Jay Kelly the CBC reported on a Muslim woman being called a name, that is somehow a story or more severe than throat slitting gestures and chocking a child? You really are pathetic sometimes. The media party is a lying bunch of cowards and you can deny it all you want, but this has been happening in Europe for a long time and it is getting worse and it will get worse here as well, your denial will not make that any different.
commented 2016-04-23 02:37:56 -0400
Jay Kelly sorry a fight is not the same thing, your comment is pathetic. And please show me any story of a Danish kid attacking another that got removed , if you can.
commented 2016-04-23 02:04:47 -0400
In Calgary, recently, three children got into a brawl, and one ended up with blood running down her nose. Neither the Calgary Herald nor any of the mainstream media would report on the matter and none of them reported that one of the two offenders almost certainly looked Danish.

The Rebel is one of the few outlets in Canada where the truth about these offences can be revealed.
commented 2016-04-23 01:52:34 -0400
OMG kids were playing? What a an evil neglectful monster this mother is.
commented 2016-04-22 20:24:32 -0400
Child and Services in Manitoba is a complete wreck. The natives bitched about the system, so now they have their own Child and family services. Stupid Two tiered devolution.
commented 2016-04-22 19:46:14 -0400
Chris, Child services are akin to the SPCA. It is not that their services are unnecessary…they have too much power and there is little incentive to make them and their informants unaccountable. Anyone that files a complaint should be required to identify themselves and if the complaint was unjustified then apologies and perhaps restitution are in order.
commented 2016-04-22 19:33:10 -0400
Trudeau’s Nanny State. They will be taking 2yr olds and putting them into State run boarding schools, to brainwash them with the joys of Marxism. You may see your child again in 14 years time but you will not know them, nor they you. The teenager will also be a Muslim.