August 24, 2018

“Civil war”: Bernier and Scheer just cost the Conservatives a majority in 2019

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

I was flying to Halifax, to cover the Conservative Party convention, when Maxime Bernier announced his resignation from the party, and his plan to start a new one.

He outlined disagreements he had with Andrew Scheer, including Scheer’s support for supply management — a form of subsidy for Quebec’s dairy industry.

But frankly, none of Bernier’s stated grievances seemed impossible to resolve.

Bernier was already steering the party towards his views on immigration and multiculturalism. And the party convention this weekend was scheduled to reconsider the dairy issue, too,

Did Bernier really have to quit — and devastate the Conservatives' election chances, by announcing his plans to start a rival party?

And isn’t handling troublesome MPs just part of the job for Andrew Scheer, and any party leader?

But what shocked me the most today was when Bernier said that Scheer hadn’t even talked to him in nine days.

Bernier has been signalling his discontent for weeks; he has been making provocative policy statements; he got into public quarrels with other Conservative MPs.

And Scheer just watched passively — not even a phone call, let alone a face-to-face meeting?

On my TV show last night, I gave Scheer my unsolicited advice on how to handle Bernier. It’s too late now.

The party is in disarray. I sense that Scheer and his staff might be celebrating though — Bernier is no longer an internal rival to Scheer. That’s true — but Scheer now leads a smaller party, that’s demoralized and divided internally.

And if Bernier really does start his new party, it will probably split the vote enough to guarantee Justin Trudeau’s reelection.

Stephen Harper united the right. Andrew Scheer and Maxime Bernier just divided it.

It’s a disaster for every Canadian conservative who was counting on them to work things out like grown-ups, and win the election.

I just landed in Halifax to report on the convention — even though Scheer has banned The Rebel. We’re going to cover this disaster fairly and honestly — unlike the CBC, who Scheer invited into the convention itself.

The Media Party can’t contain their glee — they believe that not only did Scheer just lose the next election, but all of the ideas that Bernier was proposing have lost, too.

It sure seems that way right now — the party has just snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.

There are admirable qualities about both Andrew Scheer and Maxime Bernier. But the fact that they are still quarrelling 15 months after the leadership contest is something they both should be embarrassed about. And the fact that they both just gave the next election to Justin Trudeau is inexcusable.

I know one thing: our role at the Rebel — the only truly conservative media outlet in Canada — just got more important than ever.

I promise you that we will continue to hold Justin Trudeau to account, and promote true conservative ideas, no matter what Ottawa politicians say or do.

In fact, I think we’re in a bigger, tougher fight than ever, thanks to today’s disaster.

And I hope you’ll help us continue to bring you the facts. VISIT LetUsReport.com to see how you can help bring Canadians the other side of the story here at the Conservative Party convention.

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commented 2018-08-26 22:00:28 -0400
Andrew… Don’t forget your the Children’s Hospital $450
commented 2018-08-25 12:09:29 -0400
Allan Peterson commented 19 mins ago
ANDREW STEPHENSON
Singh’s performance to date, do you think he’s actually going to split the vote?
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Mr-Babies-Are-Parasites, given Trudeau’s performance to date this is a very good possibility. The left are like stupid seeking missiles. If there is a stupid idea or a jackass running in the race they will hit that target dead centre every time. "

Trudeau is polling at 38%. Singh is at 18. “Stupid” or not, the Left is guaranteed 55-60% of the vote, and you’ve forgotten to answer, or even acknowledge, the comment which you specifically pulled out of a lengthy reply.

Do you feel Mr. Singh is a strong candidate, or is he headed to a Mulcair-level drubbing? As it appears right now, Trudeau’s doing a pretty good job of holding onto his base – Grenier’s aggregate gives him an 82% chance of winning, and 48% (of overall chances) of that being a majority.

“And this would be different than Scheer in what way? "

Good question. I don’t have an answer. That’s why the split is going to be troublesome. The priority issues among the Rebel crowd are quite fringey among Canada as a whole (e.g, abortion rights – Rebel readers are overwhelimingly pro-life, yet among Canadians as a whole, pro-choice outnumbers pro-life by a vast margin, 77-12 in a recent Ipsos survey).

But, I’ll ask again, who do you think the social conservatives are going to vote for? The globalist social liberal whose comments about immigration don’t necessarily mean taking in fewer of them, but merely encouraging them to integrate better, or the known pro-life Catholic whose party is today voting on whether the grassroots wants social conservatism to be part of its platform?
commented 2018-08-25 11:22:47 -0400
ANDREW STEPHENSON
Singh’s performance to date, do you think he’s actually going to split the vote?
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Mr-Babies-Are-Parasites, given Trudeau’s performance to date this is a very good possibility. The left are like stupid seeking missiles. If there is a stupid idea or a jackass running in the race they will hit that target dead centre every time.
commented 2018-08-25 11:18:32 -0400
ANDREW STEPHENSON
My question to you is, are you actually going to vote for a guy who is very socially liberal, marched in a pride parade, pro-choice, and whose comments about “Canadian values” refer to complete religious freedom and equality, rather than privilege for the Judeo-Christian types?
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And this would be different than Scheer in what way?
commented 2018-08-25 11:16:34 -0400
SONNY CROCKETT
It really sucks being a part of a news company that only seems to talk about “issues” like race, immigration, Islam, and “This Liberal Said This Today.”
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Sonny is transferring again. These are his obsessions. Not The Rebels.

Obviously a news source that focuses on what the MSM won’t report will be weighted on certain issues. But to say this is all they talk about is nonsense.
commented 2018-08-25 10:43:14 -0400
Just to clarify that is a comment I might have written but didn’t. I just agree with it. It was posted by someone in the comment section under the recent ARANA NATION youtube on Bernier leaving. I wasn’t sure if I should post the name so I left it out and revealed the source instead.
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Don’t worry yourself about it , buy some gravol. Screw you troll.
commented 2018-08-25 10:23:22 -0400
Hmm. That comment issue is obnoxious. Hopefully you can still figure it out, Flattey.

“liza Rosie commented 9 hours ago
1 day ago
I voted for Maxime Bernier in the leadership race, and I will be voting for the party he creates. I’m not worried about splitting the vote because because Jagmeet Singh is going to split the left vote and Bernier can draw in disaffected liberals. Bernier drove the increase in Conservative party members. Andrew Scheer isn’t going to be much better than Trudeau because he will capitulate to the left’s demands. "

Given Singh’s performance to date, do you think he’s actually going to split the vote? Or that Liberals are going to vote for a libertarian?

My question to you is, are you actually going to vote for a guy who is very socially liberal, marched in a pride parade, pro-choice, and whose comments about “Canadian values” refer to complete religious freedom and equality, rather than privilege for the Judeo-Christian types?
commented 2018-08-25 10:17:08 -0400
flatwater.. flatearth commented 10 hours ago
It’s a good thing your phD isn’t in mathematics … a 25% of forty percent is a shit load of votes … there wasn’t ever any doubt Andrew.. And I will remind you once again in case you forgotten that the liberals who were majority for 14 years don’t even have a party status anymore… "

flatwater.. flatearth commented 10 hours ago
It’s a good thing your phD isn’t in mathematics … a 25% of forty percent is a shit load of votes … there wasn’t ever any doubt Andrew.. And I will remind you once again in case you forgotten that the liberals who were majority for 14 years don’t even have a party status anymore… "Most mathematicians work primarily with theoretical variables rather than arithmetic- the latter’s a better job for the talking box in the living room. but you’re right, 25% of 40% indeed could be a “shit ton” of votes, depending on how you define the term.

flatwater.. flatearth commented 10 hours ago
It’s a good thing your phD isn’t in mathematics … a 25% of forty percent is a shit load of votes … there wasn’t ever any doubt Andrew.. And I will remind you once again in case you forgotten that the liberals who were majority for 14 years don’t even have a party status anymore… "Most mathematicians work primarily with theoretical variables rather than arithmetic- the latter’s a better job for the talking box in the living room. but you’re right, 25% of 40% indeed could be a “shit ton” of votes, depending on how you define the term.But, it’s 10% of the total vote count, which is not enough to win. AND… here’s the point I was trying to make. The other 30% would be less than the 33% the NDP got. It’s hard to say how that would pan out seatwise (33% is an easy win for a vote-efficient party like the Liberals, but harder to predict with two vote-inefficient parties running off) but it’s reasonable to point out that it would probably not result in a PC majority.

flatwater.. flatearth commented 10 hours ago
It’s a good thing your phD isn’t in mathematics … a 25% of forty percent is a shit load of votes … there wasn’t ever any doubt Andrew.. And I will remind you once again in case you forgotten that the liberals who were majority for 14 years don’t even have a party status anymore… "Most mathematicians work primarily with theoretical variables rather than arithmetic- the latter’s a better job for the talking box in the living room. but you’re right, 25% of 40% indeed could be a “shit ton” of votes, depending on how you define the term.But, it’s 10% of the total vote count, which is not enough to win. AND… here’s the point I was trying to make. The other 30% would be less than the 33% the NDP got. It’s hard to say how that would pan out seatwise (33% is an easy win for a vote-efficient party like the Liberals, but harder to predict with two vote-inefficient parties running off) but it’s reasonable to point out that it would probably not result in a PC majority.You may want to consider the longer term consequences of the Liberal defeat. For example, the old blood that people hated are all gone now meaning a complete rebuild could well make them competitive again – much as the Fed Libs did after their 2011 thrashing, though admittedly that may be complicated by the fact Horwath appears to have gained her footing only a little bit too late, being very visible amongst the grassroots backlash to Ford’s tomfoolery.
commented 2018-08-25 01:03:49 -0400
This comment which was under an Arana Nation youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkdeaUXnvOg
…is kind of what I am thinking, at the moment anyway. I’m still working it out.

1 day ago
I voted for Maxime Bernier in the leadership race, and I will be voting for the party he creates. I’m not worried about splitting the vote because because Jagmeet Singh is going to split the left vote and Bernier can draw in disaffected liberals. Bernier drove the increase in Conservative party members. Andrew Scheer isn’t going to be much better than Trudeau because he will capitulate to the left’s demands.
commented 2018-08-25 00:26:47 -0400
It’s a good thing your phD isn’t in mathematics … a 25% of forty percent is a shit load of votes … there wasn’t ever any doubt Andrew.. And I will remind you once again in case you forgotten that the liberals who were majority for 14 years don’t even have a party status anymore… They’re basically homeless people now without a job . Wait a minute common sense who has a masters degree called you out on your basket weaving… You don’t have a PhD either
commented 2018-08-25 00:18:29 -0400
You know, Ezra’s analysis is always great, but I think this time he forgot one thing – that Max may have felt the need to leave, not for himself, but to not lose the support of his supporters. After all, how can he be principled and go along with silent milquetoast?
commented 2018-08-25 00:12:55 -0400
“Time is dynamic and we’re not frozen in it…”
Good advice for the current CPC. Love it Flatwater.
commented 2018-08-25 00:10:42 -0400
Why don’t liberal’s ever think of tomorrow. They never pay attention to what is coming down the turnpike, the bigger picture. Its pathetic.
commented 2018-08-25 00:08:27 -0400
Sonny , regarding Patricia Dafoe-Denard’s comment. I tell my millennial’s that if they don’t start paying attention they will be living in a Canadian version of Venezuela. That you don’t see the possibility is your stupidity not ours.
commented 2018-08-24 22:02:10 -0400
“flatwater.. flatearth commented 1 hour ago
I don’t care who you voted for I really don’t.. Ford is in by a landslide the Liberals aren’t even recognize as a party anymore deal with it . "

Ford got 40%. Split off even a quarter of that, and the NDP would have won.

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You have made Amy Lynn, Andrew Stephenson, and Sonny Crockett very happy people. "

A strong opposition is not a bad thing. Keeps politician’s noses clean. Creating a uniparty really doesn’t benefit anyone – it’s the same reason I support electoral reform even though it means, in general, the end of majority governments.
commented 2018-08-24 21:14:28 -0400
Conservatives don’t have to split the vote for a possible Trudeau win, Trudeau assumed he had the election in the bag long before this shite happened paid troll bait, Trudeau gave Canadian tax dollars to political activists groups. He is busy buying the election well ahead of the election.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/malcolm-third-party-activist-groups-getting-money-from-summer-jobs-grants
“… According to the Canada Summer Jobs website, LeadNow Society will receive two grants for its operations in British Columbia. Meanwhile, in Ontario, this group is running a nasty campaign that spreads false information about the Progressive Conservatives. ….LeadNow was named in an official complaint to Elections Canada that alleged foreign funding and foreign interference in the 2015 federal election campaign. That report alleged that the U.S-based Tides Foundation donated $1.5 million of U.S. funds to Canadian third-party groups.”
commented 2018-08-24 21:01:53 -0400
Peter Netterville ,Who said they wouldn’t vote CPC? Getting rid of Trudeau next year will probably bring them around to at least throw him out of office.
commented 2018-08-24 20:52:03 -0400
I want to thank all of you Conservative voters who will not vote for the CPC for putting Trudeau back into the PM chair.

Thank you so very much.

You have made Amy Lynn, Andrew Stephenson, and Sonny Crockett very happy people.
commented 2018-08-24 20:43:42 -0400
Stephen Harper did not Unite the Right. That, Ezra, is just an empty slogan. The CPC used it again to destroy conservative politics in Alberta sending us the worn-out Jason Kenney who all the uninformed AB conservatives are slathering over.

Harper was once a principled man who became an unprincipled politician. He did what they all do – lied his way into power, did none, or few, of the things he promised, took for granted, and abysmally failed, his biggest voter constituency in Alberta and Saskatchewan, then slithered his way into the Ottawa Swamp to join the rest of the PC Identity politics panderers.

And what did we get? No fix to the Senate that is now filled with Liberals, total silence for ten years regarding Equalization reform, failed EI reform, even greater and more handouts to Quebec, expanded and unsatisfactory immigration levels and quality (Kenney’s gift to us). He threw us some crumbs in meaningless boutique tax cuts and tax breaks to fight over and, despite having the biggest election war chest of every other Party, he handed us the worst election performance in the history of Canadian politics in 2015.

And worst of all – he paved the way for exactly what is happening now ~ pavng the way for competing interests in his so-called United Party that is ripping itself to pieces. This is Harper’s unsavory political legacy.

Any Leader of any so-called Conservative Party that thinks it can weed out conservatives is crazy and badly mistaken. The fragmentation is happening in Alberta, too, with Separtists and splinter conservative parties heading for next year’s ballot, after two successive leaders of the Wildrose tried to do the same. The only reason the UCP can hang on is because we are a Right Wing province desperate to rid ourselves of a Left Wing gv’t. Bernier has a wide-open field because Canada is a Leftist country with Leftists in electoral control.
commented 2018-08-24 20:42:40 -0400
Sorry. Wrong thread.
commented 2018-08-24 20:41:02 -0400
Since 9/11 – IN THE NAME OF ISLAM (SATAN): 35,900 Attacks, 232,706 Killed, 312,432 Injured that we know of
commented 2018-08-24 20:30:49 -0400
I don’t care who you voted for I really don’t.. Ford is in by a landslide the Liberals aren’t even recognize as a party anymore deal with it .
commented 2018-08-24 20:24:43 -0400
Time is dynamic and we’re not frozen in it… Under the watchful eye of your favourite monkey boy and the teachings of his communist father you will have your Venezuela
commented 2018-08-24 20:11:24 -0400
Britney has an entire year to organize and pit his platform against Andy and vote for who represents you the best.
commented 2018-08-24 20:09:01 -0400
Nothing wrong with Patricia statement… She’s afraid of Canada turning into Venezuela under the monkey boys watch…as a matter of fact so am I.
commented 2018-08-24 20:01:45 -0400
Damn spellcheck… you know who I mean..
commented 2018-08-24 20:00:50 -0400
Christian was p.m. because he came out of Quebec
commented 2018-08-24 20:00:11 -0400
I disagree with your last statement Ted… And Bernier was right because it is too corrupt and two broken to be fixed.
commented 2018-08-24 19:53:53 -0400
WILLIAM KAY commented 11 mins ago

Many were implemented by CINO governments.

There. Fixed that for ya.
commented 2018-08-24 19:42:27 -0400
Max claims conservatives abandoned their principles by not opposing agricultural supply management boards. Canada has had agricultural marketing boards for 100 years. Scores of (egg, poultry, dairy, turkey) supply management boards now are strewn about the land. Many were implemented by Conservative governments. Virtually all have been endorsed by Conservative governments for decades. Max is but a little ideological sparrow who has banged his beak on a thick pragmatic window pane. Poor silly Max.