#cpc16: Rob Anders on the “red vs. blue battle for the soul” of the Conservative Party — Who’s running for Executive and Presidency?

Ah, Sean, Anders was screwed by liberals dressing as conservatives. This is an old dishonest left wing ploy and evidenced by the last election where liberals were running as conservatives but posting tweets about their support for Peter Pan. You lefties are dishonest, conniving and two faced. Oh, and not to be trusted.

Anders is a Reform Party/Social Credit type of dark dark blue Conservative, which is regressive and dangerous. He could even get nominated by his own party. The right wing of the party had its time in office, and they failed miserably.

With a new voting system, it’s time to become much more centrist and accommodating. The old Reform Party era far right/dark blue conservative is dead.

ROB ANDERS??? WTF!

Maybe a CPC swing to the left would split the future lefty vote 3 ways. A new truly conservative party could come out ahead.

Good to see you again ROB , the last time I saw you was at my granddaughters graduation ceremonies in AIRDRIE AB in 2010 , and no you didn’t have a nap the whole time , in fact you gave a speech , much more productive then the house of commies
I hope you can remove that RED STAIN and get back in
You called it as you and us seen it

A “blue” conservative is pretty much centrist. Anything redder than that is a collectivist and really, I wonder why they would not just walk and join with their Liberal ‘progressive’ co-religionists.

“Everyone is going to be so sick of Trudeau’s spending and social restructuring bullshit by the next election that the path for the Conservatives will be clear. "

Nice in theory, but it’s going to run into a brick wall of demographics. Trudeau lured more than a million dewey-eyed Millenials out of their parents basements, and there are another million available by 2019, almost a thousand a day turning 18 now. The old school social conservatives are becoming handily outnumbered by Millenials (being, generally, 50+, they are subject to the national attrition of any group of that age), who approve of Trudeau’s policies. The sort of people that would ordinarily naturally drift Right as they mature are mostly Gen X now and have very little patience for social conservatism and end up sticking with the Liberals when the CPC offers a disagreeable platform. That’s one of the drivers of the CPC’s sharp left turn (it’s also a reason Harper suppressed the SoCon factions, he realized he was doomed if he alienated those middle of the road types)- faced with demographics, they desperately need those 40-something Xers on board, but to do so have to stick to a purely small c, fiscal conservative platform.

Social conservatism is a small, yet very outspoken, minority in Canada. At the end of the day, you still only have one vote, exactly equal in weight to the 20 year old Woman’s Studies student at U of T.

Liza,

You get that Trump is a social liberal right? If you are looking to him to make America socially conservative again, you are dreaming. He won’t win anyway. Primaries are one thing, general elections are another. He is hated too much by the masses.

If Harper was any more conservative – he would have lost by even more votes. You need to face facts – Canadians don’t want a social conservative running things.

When you start seeing certain CPC MPs crossing the floor to join the Liberals, you will know that the grassroots of the CPC has abandoned the party, leaving the CINOs to dismantle the fraud.

I predict that Rempel will cross the floor to the Liberals first, as she is far more comfortable on the government side of the House. I’m sure JT can hand his first Alberta MP something bright and shiny to play with.

I get the feeling that is the general fear for some Conservatives Mannie, however allowing your decisions to be motivated by fear has predictable consequence 98% of the time. I am hoping the base will remember that, and remember who they are, because that is what is going to get them elected. I am hoping they will learn something from the American election this fall. People won’t want any more left turns, they will want strong right turns to get the country back on track.
Everyone is going to be so sick of Trudeau’s spending and social restructuring bullshit by the next election that the path for the Conservatives will be clear. They need to remember that and vote in a leader who can be a true Conservative , because that is what people will be looking for. Somebody is going to have to clean up Justins mess.

MICHAEL MANN

Shouldn’t you be a good little Bonobo Chimp and hump a log or a hole in the ground somewhere? You’re behind on your orgasms.

A “true” conservative won’t win elections. The Conservative Party knows this and if they ever want to be in power again, they need to be more center right.

Rob Anders was an incumbent CPC MP who was victimized by the CINOs. They took away his nomination and drove him from office. He is an example of what will happen to other true conservatives if they do not get in line with the CINO agenda.

A massive purge is coming that will make the CPC a clearly left-wing party and with an agenda to match.

A federal carbon tax is coming and the CPC will be onside with whatever the Liberals introduce. Very dark days are coming.

Quite frankly the new Cons will be gun grabbers and islamic lovers

I am hard pressed to find one that I would trust.

BTW – great to hear from Rob A – a lynchpin of rational policy making. Good on ya Rob!

When the CPC was brand spanky new I enjoyed dialogue with so called “red” cons because unlike the reds in the party today, who prioritize capture of controlling executive positions to use to propagate their non conservative agendas, the traditional big tent CPC reds were actually aligned with classic liberalism which progressed conservatism has much common ground.

The problem comes in the new red cons actually abandoning classic liberal ideals of inclusive democracy and populism and grass roots control for a litany of radical left ideals requiring big government statism and top down organization – essentially the antithesis of tmoderate conservatism and moderate Liberalism. They will tear the big tent apart, and I’m not so sure that isn’t their intention.

Establishment vs the pulse.