August 25, 2018

#CPC18: Grassroots activists unite to push back against establishment

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show

On last night's special episode of The Ezra Levant Show coming to you from the Conservative Party convention in Halifax, Sheila Gunn Reid spoke with grassroots activist, Prem Singh.


Coming off the success of the municipal level group, Save Calgary, and provincial group, Alberta Can’t Wait, Singh and fellow activists recognized the need for a federal grassroots movement to push back against the establishment.

Watch as she tells us about the new group, Canadians for Democracy and Prosperity and why it’s so important to remind politicians that they work for us.

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commented 2018-08-27 19:26:19 -0400
“Andrew troll, thinks conservatives don’t live in cities.”

Not what it thinks but rather its talking points. The Leftard troll is yet again spamming. Only a teenybopper would fall for its tripe. It is no wonder that the Liberals/Dippers want the voting age to be dropped to 16.

I’m still laughing at this troll over its BS claim that only 7% of the federal debt is Trudeau’s doing.

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2018/03/26/budget-fails-balance-trudeau-government-federal-market-debt-now-1-trillion/
The Trudeau government was handed a balanced budget. And though they promised budget deficits, those deficits were supposed to be small and temporary. After all, Justin Trudeau assured Canadians that “the budget would balance itself.” Instead, we have red ink as far as the eye can see, with deficits projected to continue for many decades.
Now, because of that surge in debt under the Trudeau government, Canada’s market debt has surpassed $1 trillion for the first time in Canadian history.

https://torontosun.com/2014/06/16/newfoundland-and-labrador-liberals-want-to-lower-voting-age-to-16/wcm/97419d1f-d058-44d4-bcb9-f6d2cf52071b
https://www.dailywire.com/news/3093/leftists-canada-want-voting-age-lowered-16-heres-daily-wire
commented 2018-08-27 17:38:04 -0400
Andrew Stephenson you mean the WHOPPING 0.3? LMAO!
And making government jobs does not mean much to the economy and drags it down.
You are delusional.
commented 2018-08-27 16:04:17 -0400
If you support Palestine Andrew S. you support political Islam, but don’t sweat it, so does your government. You are an apologist , and you are hopeless. Stay out in front.

… and what Dirk said.
commented 2018-08-27 15:29:19 -0400
“I work with a couple women who wear hijabs. Oddly enough, if it weren’t for their headgear, they’d be indistinguishable from anyone else. Some of them were born here and only speak English. It’s no more “political Islam” than wearing a cross is “political Christianity””
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Nice try, but no cigar, wearing a cross doesn’t indicate ownership and slavery and also is not political as christians don’t elevate their religion above the law like sharia law.
commented 2018-08-27 14:38:01 -0400
$450 now.!!
You’re despicable Andrew but the worst part is you’re OK with that.
commented 2018-08-27 14:37:05 -0400
Do you remember saying this Andrew.??

ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 22 ago
“Ron Christensen commented 25 mins ago
I just set Max $50 dollars for the first troll ! Lol Bring it trolls ! "

Let me know what your final total is. I’ll match it dollar for dollar, though I’ll contribute it to the Children’s Hospital rather than political causes.
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commented 2018-08-27 14:24:58 -0400
Did you gift for $150 to the children’s hospital yet.. No..! So I guess that was just you talking out your ass again eh Andrew.. You have absolutely no credibility and are nothing but an irritation and a disturbance.
commented 2018-08-27 14:05:25 -0400
“Can you supply data points, metrics or any economic statistics that will validate your point? And what do you constitute as a boom? I would also like to mention that any activity that we have had is mainly due to our friends to the south; we are heavily dependant on them as every one knows. And “yes” they are in a boom thanks to Trump’s initiative. We are simply riding on their coat tails. Besides any “boom” as you put it, would be significantly greater if we had our oil pipelines and oil sector working at the capacity it could be working at. "

I’d point to both GDP and employment figures, one is at a several year high, the other 20 year high. Boom would be strong GDP growth.

Yes, a fair bit of it’s due to the US, which has had strong growth for eight straight years (though not entirely, obviously our 2014-15 near-recession was not something they experienced). There is no doubt that Trump’s stimulus packages are helping, although whether it’s wise to be borrowing that much money to stimulate an already booming economy is an important questions to ask.

A stronger oil sector would probably enhance that, however, it’s only a small piece of the total economy. The real success story, oddly enough, is probably Quebec.

“Andrew troll, thinks conservatives don’t live in cities. What a twit. I hope he is sitting on the Danforth sipping his soy latte next time a shooter crisscrosses the street with his gun or truck, then if he survives he can come back and tell us how well assimilation is going. If they hang onto political Islam, there will never be assimilation, ever. If they are wearing a burka/niqab its political Islam. If they are advocating for sharia law, its political Islam, if they support Palestine and death to Jews, its political Islam. If they pray at work or school, or in public places ,its political Islam. If they push halal food or celebrate by creating bloodbaths and skinning animals alive, its political Islam.”

Conservatives do live in cities – we do see maybe 15 or 20% voting for the Right, but they’re usually very different than the rural version. For one thing, they’re often Muslim – the public housing tracts are often the only ones in the core that the PCs win

Marginalization isn’t going to help the shooting problem, which arises out of (guess what?) marginalization. If you want “assimilation” then you have to actually reach out and help them find their footing. YOu isolate them as much as they isolate themselves. Regardless, Toronto’s crime rate is not outrageous, and the most overrepresented demographic in prisons remains Indigenous by a broad margin.

I work with a couple women who wear hijabs. Oddly enough, if it weren’t for their headgear, they’d be indistinguishable from anyone else. Some of them were born here and only speak English. It’s no more “political Islam” than wearing a cross is “political Christianity”, although the latter are far more likely to preach at you (I don’t recall being forced to say Muslim prayers at public schools as a child. Oh, but they did make us say the Lords Prayer, even though I am not religious) Halal food standards are very similar to Kosher, and both religions consider the two interchangeable.

I’m a white agnostic and tend to support Palestine. That’s simply an objective interpretation, in that they have their existing territory, and shouldn’t be crying for sympathy on the global stage when they make incursions into other countries and act surprised when there is retaliation.
commented 2018-08-27 13:39:50 -0400
“Unlike a lot of Rebel readers, I actually live in the cities where immigrants settle, and can see firsthand that the majority of them DO integrate. Perhaps not in the same way as a WASP might, but not in a bad way either. "

Andrew troll, thinks conservatives don’t live in cities. What a twit. I hope he is sitting on the Danforth sipping his soy latte next time a shooter crisscrosses the street with his gun or truck, then if he survives he can come back and tell us how well assimilation is going. If they hang onto political Islam, there will never be assimilation, ever. If they are wearing a burka/niqab its political Islam. If they are advocating for sharia law, its political Islam, if they support Palestine and death to Jews, its political Islam. If they pray at work or school, or in public places ,its political Islam. If they push halal food or celebrate by creating bloodbaths and skinning animals alive, its political Islam. Very little of what has been imported, is not political Islam, just look at the infiltration in our five ’p’s’. Canada is swarming with political Islam.

Gawd it must be dark up there Andrew S., you’d think your head would have rotted off at the neck by now. You know, being that it spends so much time where the sun don’t shine and all.
commented 2018-08-27 13:34:01 -0400
Speaking of debt Andrew… You owe the Children’s Hospital $450 or was that just your mouth running off again in your “PhD” style
commented 2018-08-27 12:39:42 -0400
I have no personal debt except my car which I elected to buy from my own pocket. I do not remember during my lifetime being asked by any level of government for national debt. It should be against then law for government to carry debt. When are THEY going to ask us for borrowing privileges?
commented 2018-08-27 12:10:06 -0400
Andrew Stephenson:I see destruction in neither the economy (which is in the midst of a protracted boom), nor in social fabric, which may have changed, but not in a way that’s objectively bad unless you had a vested interest in the old ways.

Can you supply data points, metrics or any economic statistics that will validate your point? And what do you constitute as a boom? I would also like to mention that any activity that we have had is mainly due to our friends to the south; we are heavily dependant on them as every one knows. And “yes” they are in a boom thanks to Trump’s initiative. We are simply riding on their coat tails. Besides any “boom” as you put it, would be significantly greater if we had our oil pipelines and oil sector working at the capacity it could be working at.

I will not hold my breath waiting for your answer sir!
commented 2018-08-27 12:09:20 -0400
Hyacinth commented 19 hours ago
But seriously you really do deserve a prize for that doozy of a line that Trudeau’s share is only 7%, ha it is still making me chuckle when I think about it. "

Debt clock says today’s debt is 658b (official number is 648, discrepancy because the Debt Clock adds it linearly over the course of the year while the borrowing doesn’t go on the official books until year-end reconciliation). It was 616b when Trudeau took over. 658/616 = 1.07. I mean, basic arithmetic sure is a doozy. Perhaps your argument is in that 7.5% technically rounds up to 8?

If you want to use alternative measures, the “market debt” increased from 930b to just under a trillion in the most recent official figures from earlier this year, about 7.5% increase.

Gross debt? 1043 to 1122b. 7.6%.

Data available in Statscan table, Table: 10-10-0002-01

“Thank you, Andrew, for proving my point. I appreciate you confirming what I just said. "

Your point would only be proven by providing some sort of supporting evidence. Rhetorical posturing about how evil people must be because they simply don’t take your anecdotes as unassailable dogma really doesn’t prove anything, other than hinting at the distinct possibility that you simply don’t have any supporting evidence to provide.

Here’s the deal, Peter. By what metric has Trudeau “destroyed” the economy? No, I don’t buy borrowing circa 1% of your GDP a year as catastrophic, when the economy’s growing at nearly 3%. Imprudent? Sure, but not devastating (Trump’s running triple the deficit, proportionally, yet seems to be well-regarded around here) By every other measure, including GDP itself and unemployment, it’s doing rather well. Nor do I see wide evidence of social breakdown – the vague paranoia doesn’t reflect actual changes but rather a combination of perception biases and tribalism searching for a common enemy.

“Alberta Maga commented 11 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson you forgot that phony surplus the Libs claimed by reducing transfers and screwing with pensions and using up the EI surplus”

There is no such thing as a “phony surplus”. A surplus is a surplus. Money in minus money out = positive. The net debt decreased under the Chretien liberals, something no other government in recent history can claim. Harper’s “surplus” is controversial because the net debt still increased very slightly that year, in nominal terms anyway. (relative to GDP it decreased sharply, but if that’s your metric, it’s been declining under Trudeau as well) Austerity with a red flag is not any different than austerity with a blue one; the Chretien liberals were NOT a left wing party.
commented 2018-08-27 03:13:05 -0400
I really must proofread these more often.!! Lmao
commented 2018-08-27 03:12:28 -0400
That was supposed to read by the way Andrew… Where is your donation to the children’s hospital… LOL damn spellcheck
commented 2018-08-27 02:31:40 -0400
By the way underwear is the donation to the Children’s Hospital you promised
commented 2018-08-27 01:25:00 -0400
Andrew Stephenson are you gonna try and BS away Notleys RECORD DEBT. The one that we have now with poorer and slower services and nothing to show for it.
commented 2018-08-27 01:24:10 -0400
Andrew Stephenson you forgot that phony surplus the Libs claimed by reducing transfers and screwing with pensions and using up the EI surplus. LMAO! Sorry but Harper had a small surplus ,your BS does not change that. Nor does it change the fact that the PET Liberals create the most debt when you factor in the years they happened.
commented 2018-08-27 00:10:02 -0400
OK Ms. Stephenson… I must confess to a very, very “vested interest” in the old ways… Like when “budgets didn’t balance themselves” magically and at the behest of Boy Blunders heading our government.. If only….
commented 2018-08-26 20:26:12 -0400
Peter.. Not much to a PhD lately is there.!!
The monkey troll is proving that every time he opens his pie hole.!!
commented 2018-08-26 20:01:21 -0400
Andrew Stephenson said,
“Netterville: "no hope for them to see the destruction they are bringing on the Canadian economy and social fabric of our society. "

I see destruction in neither the economy (which is in the midst of a protracted boom), nor in social fabric, which may have changed, but not in a way that’s objectively bad unless you had a vested interest in the old ways.
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Thank you, Andrew, for proving my point. I appreciate you confirming what I just said.
commented 2018-08-26 19:10:02 -0400
“Everything is like a wall.
Said a scholar to the troll.
Bang your head to go on through.
Then you’ll see, there is no queue.”

“I remember a time where Trolls were a fictitious monster from fairy tales, not arseholes on the internet looking for attention.”
― Robert O’Sullivan
commented 2018-08-26 18:11:29 -0400
Once again may I reiterate… When speaking to the monkey trolls do not respond directly to it.. rather speak to it in a third-party context if you really must respond at all .!!
commented 2018-08-26 16:36:03 -0400
As I stated on the other thread and one last time on this one …

I’m done feeding you on both threads for today, everyone can see that you are just pissing in the wind but unfortunately for you it is just hitting your shoes. But seriously you really do deserve a prize for that doozy of a line that Trudeau’s share is only 7%, ha it is still making me chuckle when I think about it.
commented 2018-08-26 16:31:21 -0400
Philip Tessier commented 14 mins ago
Andrew… you do know that the Muslims in Singapore have been put on notice. No extreme Muslim preachers "

Ah, there we go… so now we’re gotten to the point where we acknowledge, even if inadvertently, that it’s the extremists that are a problem, not Islam itself.
commented 2018-08-26 16:30:07 -0400
“Now, because of that surge in debt under the Trudeau government, Canada’s market debt has surpassed $1 trillion for the first time in Canadian history”

Harper’s budget balance referred to the operating (net) budget. Debt increased every year, including both gross and net debt. “Market debt” is apparently an arbitrary figure designed for dramatic effect, since it’s a number! that exceeded a trillion! under Trudeau! although not one anyone other than Fernando and a few others actually uses.

Now, going back to actual numbers that evaluators actually use.
a) Our net debt will reach 670 billion by year-end and increasing about 18 billion a year. This number didn’t decline even when Harper tabled a nominal surplus, because of how it’s accounted for.
b) Our “gross debt” – total combined value of all outstanding debt instruments- exceeded a trillion in 2012.
c) Both numbers are presently sustainable, given economic growth is improving our fiscal capacity faster than the debt is increasing.
commented 2018-08-26 16:22:58 -0400
Give it up troll, everyone can see that you are just pissing in the wind, unfortunately for you it is just hitting your shoes. Now go play on some other thread am done feeding you troll LOL.
commented 2018-08-26 16:16:41 -0400
“Sad thing though is that doesn’t take into account Trudeau’s latest expenditures, that is based on the last official report.”

Yes, it does. The interim updates say that if anything, it’s overestimated – revenues are higher than expected meaning that that number’s probably actually a bit high.

Again, the debt to GDP ratio is dropping. The economy is growing faster than the debt is. This is sustainable indefinitely.

“The Trudeau Liberals make history for the highest per person spending outside a war or recessionFraser Institute: Spending now is 22% higher than the peak incurred during the depths of the Second World War under William Lyon Mackenzie King "

“The Trudeau Liberals make history for the highest per person spending outside a war or recession”

We didn’t have public healthcare in the 40s. Of course spending will be higher. In addition our increasing federal spending is largely due to the mass retirement of the Boomers, being mostly healthcare and OAS costs which didn’t exist to nearly the same degree ten years ago. Those are unavoidable.

“Fast forward to today: A recent buried finance department report revealed Justin Trudeau’s current agenda is on track to give us a $1-trillion debt in 15 years and deficits until the 2050s. "

That report is almost two years old. Is that claim still true? I recall reading it in detail, and there were some pretty long term assumptions about spending and economic growth that were tenuous even then, let alone now. (ie, our growth is better than expected). Given that nobody else has repeated that claim in more than two years, is it still true?
commented 2018-08-26 16:15:47 -0400
Andrew… you do know that the Muslims in Singapore have been put on notice. No extreme Muslim preachers, many Islamic books banned and extremely harsh punishment for Muslims that waver. You do understand what extreme punishment means in Singapore. Not exactly a “lets just love each other” environment. This will explode even in Singapore. Just a matter of time. Next you will tell me how great Muslim assimilation is going in China. Maybe do some research before you chuck out examples of utopia.