August 25, 2018

#CPC18: Grassroots activists unite to push back against establishment

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show

On last night's special episode of The Ezra Levant Show coming to you from the Conservative Party convention in Halifax, Sheila Gunn Reid spoke with grassroots activist, Prem Singh.


Coming off the success of the municipal level group, Save Calgary, and provincial group, Alberta Can’t Wait, Singh and fellow activists recognized the need for a federal grassroots movement to push back against the establishment.

Watch as she tells us about the new group, Canadians for Democracy and Prosperity and why it’s so important to remind politicians that they work for us.

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commented 2018-08-26 16:05:18 -0400
“But, in broader terms, Trudeau is only responsible for about 7% of the total…”

LOLOLOLOL ding ding ding ding, You win first prize!! You have topped troll BS on this site. .

https://www.spencerfernando.com/2018/03/26/budget-fails-balance-trudeau-government-federal-market-debt-now-1-trillion/
The Trudeau government was handed a balanced budget. And though they promised budget deficits, those deficits were supposed to be small and temporary. After all, Justin Trudeau assured Canadians that “the budget would balance itself.”Instead, we have red ink as far as the eye can see, with deficits projected to continue for many decades.
Now, because of that surge in debt under the Trudeau government, Canada’s market debt has surpassed $1 trillion for the first time in Canadian history.
commented 2018-08-26 16:02:52 -0400
Philip Tessier commented 12 mins ago
Andrew, until Trudeau Senior lined up at the trough with his “the budget will balance itself” approach Canada had almost no debt. His son is a lunatic like his father. Financially the Trudeau’s are country busters."

Junior doesn’t seem to be – our debt-to-GDP ratio is 30.1%, which is slightly lower than the 30.9% it was when he took over in 2015.

Canada may have had very little debt in 1970, but it has been above 30% as long as I’ve been around, beyond a brief interlude into the high-20s in 2007, and at times considerably higher yet (over 60% in 1992-99).

“Islam and Western culture will survive only till such time as Islam gains a foothold. Then they will self destruct. Only a fool would not recognize that”

Western culture includes freedom of religion. The moment you start discriminating against religions, western culture is lost anyway.

There is very little evidence that “self destruction” is imminent. Your cited examples are mostly developing countries where fundamentalism festers among poverty – it brings hope to those who have nothing else. Prosperity brings peace – and I’ll cite the Singapore example. They’re significantly more Muslim than Canada is, and have a similar diaspora-based identity to Canada. Yet, because it’s one of the wealthiest nations on the planet, everyone coexists peacefully, they all have better things to do than bicker.
commented 2018-08-26 15:50:30 -0400
LOL cool many thanks Troll for reposting that debt clock it needs repeating over and over. Sad thing though is that doesn’t take into account Trudeau’s latest expenditures, that is based on the last official report. Keep spamming the debt clock link, poeple need to see what Trudeau is costing Canadians by the SECOND!!!!! Tick tock tick tock tick tock.

https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/the-trudeau-liberals-make-history-for-the-highest-per-person-spending-outside-a-war-or-recession

The Trudeau Liberals make history for the highest per person spending outside a war or recession
Fraser Institute: Spending now is 22% higher than the peak incurred during the depths of the Second World War under William Lyon Mackenzie King

https://torontosun.com/2016/03/18/trudeaus-budget-wont-balance-itself/wcm/211da34c-2aa2-4035-899e-5c2cd7cf2f1f

https://torontosun.com/2017/01/25/trump-enacts-a-freeze-while-trudeau-runs-deficits/wcm/c3e67775-de02-41ef-9448-8674e7ce0723
Fast forward to today: A recent buried finance department report revealed Justin Trudeau’s current agenda is on track to give us a $1-trillion debt in 15 years and deficits until the 2050s.
commented 2018-08-26 15:37:51 -0400
Andrew, until Trudeau Senior lined up at the trough with his “the budget will balance itself” approach Canada had almost no debt. His son is a lunatic like his father. Financially the Trudeau’s are country busters.

On Multiculturalism, anyone that realistically looks at any country where Islam gains a foothold cannot deny the destruction and downfall of said countries. Don’t matter whether you are talking about Sudan, Indonesia, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia… pick one if my sample is not enough to sway you. Islam and Western culture will survive only till such time as Islam gains a foothold. Then they will self destruct. Only a fool would not recognize that.
commented 2018-08-26 15:23:16 -0400
Hyacinth commented 25 mins ago
Obviously, Canada has survived and prospered in the intervening five decades, and the majority of Canadians have grown up and prospered with policies, so clearly they are not a problem.

Buzzer sound, wrong but thank you for playing.

https://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/canada "

Given that our debt-to-GDP has been relatively stable in the low-mid 30% range for more than 15 years, less than half its peak figure, and is not presently increasing (if the economy keeps growing at over 2.5% then it will actually decrease slightly) can this be claimed to be a severe problem? Can it be a Liberal problem given that the Chretien Libs are the only government in the last 50 years that have actually paid down debt in nominal rather than relative terms?

Netterville: "no hope for them to see the destruction they are bringing on the Canadian economy and social fabric of our society. "

I see destruction in neither the economy (which is in the midst of a protracted boom), nor in social fabric, which may have changed, but not in a way that’s objectively bad unless you had a vested interest in the old ways.

“You cannot import hundreds and tens of thousands of people who have a completely opposite belief and legal system, unwilling to change, and not expect Canada to change forever. "
People seem to forget a few things about immigrants. Yes, most of them do want to change and integrate, and since we live in a free country, as long as they contribute in some way, it doesn’t matter what their beliefs are. There are also a lot of misconceptions about how compatible immigrants are – our biggest source country is the Phillipines, and they integrate very well. Other countries like China and India tend to retain cultural hallmarks for longer, but are not incompatible with the Canadian systems. Even difficult to integrate minorities, generally try to fit in and the second generation generally does a pretty good job of it.

Unlike a lot of Rebel readers, I actually live in the cities where immigrants settle, and can see firsthand that the majority of them DO integrate. Perhaps not in the same way as a WASP might, but not in a bad way either.

If you want them to integrate, why don’t you reach out and help them? Deliberately excluding them doesn’t help.

“Hyacinth commented 37 mins ago
Your grandchildren will still be paying off Trudeau’s debt troll. Hope your grandchildren remember to thank you”

I don’t have kids and don’t plan to, so the grandkids are going to have a bit of a hard time doing that, what with not existing etc.

But, in broader terms, Trudeau is only responsible for about 7% of the total, it’s hard to place sole blame on him. Further, national debt may not actually need to be paid back – countries are perpetual entities and not bounded by a finite lifespan; if you wait long enough, inflation renders it trivial. Canada’s been borrowing money pretty much for its whole existence and very rarely paid it back. Yet, we have a manageable national debt that’s about comparable to an individual taking out a car loan, proportionally.
commented 2018-08-26 14:44:39 -0400
If the trolls that post their comments on this website are an accurate measure of the left in Canada today (and they are) then there is no hope for them to see the destruction they are bringing on the Canadian economy and social fabric of our society.

Likewise, it is futile to argue with those that are incapable of altering their socialist indoctrinated thinking.
commented 2018-08-26 14:38:41 -0400
“People here will never get it. They actually think Canada is doomed if Trudeau continues to be PM and life as we know it will be changed forever.”

Corrected to be accurate it now reads:

“Liberals that post comments here will never get it. They actually cannot see the destruction to Canada that Trudeau does and will continue to do if he becomes PM again and that life as we know it will be changed forever.”

Corrected that statement is now correct.

You cannot import hundreds and tens of thousands of people who have a completely opposite belief and legal system, unwilling to change, and not expect Canada to change forever. Those on the political left need to pull their head out of their ass as see the reality that is surrounding them … but they never will. … … and neither will the trolls that post their hate here on this website.
commented 2018-08-26 14:36:19 -0400
MARTY ASHFIELD—great and accurate comments. I have been following Bernier for years, especially after the Leadership Convention. On The Rebel I predicted his move two days before the recent convention. (after the Multicultural Tweets). Now I am a little hesitant, not about Canada falling in love with his honesty, but about his Financial ability. It will take millions to start a new party in a country this size.

I am hoping that Bernier thought out the financial part, and therefore has a Rich Conservative Backer. Kevin O’Leary comes to mind; Kevin sees and understands where Trudeau is taking this country, and it is a terrible vision. I know some of you will say O’Leary loves Boston not Canada, however we should know something this week.

One hour ago Hyacinth put up a video on Pierre the father and how he hurt Canada; Justin will be twice as bad.
commented 2018-08-26 14:35:04 -0400
Your grandchildren will still be paying off Trudeau’s debt troll. Hope your grandchildren remember to thank you.
commented 2018-08-26 14:33:27 -0400
Obviously, Canada has survived and prospered in the intervening five decades, and the majority of Canadians have grown up and prospered with policies, so clearly they are not a problem.

Buzzer sound, wrong but thank you for playing.

https://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/canada
commented 2018-08-26 14:30:51 -0400
LEFT-CENTER BIAS
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/macleans-magazine/

….professors weigh in… you actually read this tripe?

LOL, wow talk about brown nosing up to the Liberal party to get bail out funds…….

“As he approaches the end of his first year as Prime Minister of Canada, Justin Trudeau surfs a wave of publicity and goodwill. Stephen Harper is meanwhile consigned to oblivion—or worse. In the third Maclean’s prime ministers survey, carried out in the late summer of 2016, Trudeau has a substantial lead on Harper when experts are asked to assess the effectiveness of Canadian leaders.
Trudeau still has the shine of the new about him. He has the advantage of not carrying the load of almost 10 years of hard labour at the job, as Harper did, but there is more to it than that. According to scholars, commentators, and journalists, Trudeau has many more of the attributes Canadian prime ministers must have to be successful.”
commented 2018-08-26 14:28:45 -0400
Hyacinth commented 26 mins ago
Of course you don’t care troll, but you should, Pierre Trudeau’s policies are STILL IN EFFECT. Go back under your rock or to your safe space, you probably don’t pay taxes anyway."

Obviously, Canada has survived and prospered in the intervening five decades, and the majority of Canadians have grown up and prospered with policies, so clearly they are not a problem.

I probably do pay taxes (although I’m sure nothing I say will convince you otherwise). It has no bearing whatsoever on the validity of my opinions.

“My first choice was Brad Trost, and I hope that Brad Trost sides with and joins Bernier in forming this new party.”

Trost’s legislated morality social conservatism is fundamentally incompatible with Bernier’s freedom-loving libertarianism.
commented 2018-08-26 14:14:56 -0400
Unless the Lord builds the house,
They labor in vain who build it;
Unless the Lord guards the city,
The watchman keeps awake in vain.

Psalm 127:1
commented 2018-08-26 14:06:05 -0400
I and a lot of others here on the Rebel have been waiting for the conservative party to do something about the smiling idiot Scheer, I for one did not care what they did as long as they did something. Throw him out on his ass, make him quit – hell anything but keep him as leader and force us to follow him saying things like, “he is honest”, “he will defeat Trudeau just give him time”, stay with him, he is a Canadian Trump". All BS!
Scheer is not a conservative, he has no back bone, he is nothing but a faux conservative, and will never be a strong leader with true conservative values.
Well if the conservative party did nothing, then at least one true conservative did, and his name is Bernier. No matter what all the negative comments and pundits are telling us, no matter that there are people in high positions saying that Bernier is wrong in quitting, I for one believe that he was and is brave enough to stand up to smiley and the party and tell them that they are corrupt and have lost focus and hold no true conservative values.
I voted for Bernier as my second choice in the leadership run up. My first choice was Brad Trost, and I hope that Brad Trost sides with and joins Bernier in forming this new party. Together they will be a real strong and powerful voice for conservatives in Canada, which is something all conservatives have been praying and hoping for, for a very long time.
If you think that Butts and Trudeau are running scared now, just wait and see how they react in the coming days and months leading up to the election, especially if Brad Trost comes on board, which I hope he does.
Down with the feminist Trudeau.
Down with the smiling idiot Scheer.
All hail to a new true conservative party under Bernier.
commented 2018-08-26 13:58:23 -0400
Of course you don’t care troll, but you should, Pierre Trudeau’s policies are STILL IN EFFECT. Go back under your rock or to your safe space, you probably don’t pay taxes anyway.
commented 2018-08-26 13:51:07 -0400
“Hyacinth commented 3 mins ago
”https://rightedition.com/2017/07/10/pierre-trudeau-communist/" rel="nofollow">https://rightedition.com/2017/07/10/pierre-trudeau-communist/

In 1963, as you will remember, Trudeau had campaigned for the Marxist New Democrats, and had called the Liberals “idiots” and “a spineless herd.”

Who really cares if a guy who died 18 years ago was accused of being a communist more than half a century ago? Clearly, whatever machinations Comrade had, didn’t pan out.
commented 2018-08-26 13:40:32 -0400
https://rightedition.com/2017/07/10/pierre-trudeau-communist/

In 1963, as you will remember, Trudeau had campaigned for the Marxist New Democrats, and had called the Liberals “idiots” and “a spineless herd.”

Two years later, in 1965, Trudeau, Gérard Pelletier and Jean Marchand, of Cité Libre, decided to run for Parliament themselves – as Liberals.

In an article in Le Devoir, Trudeau and Pelletier explained to the dumbfounded N.D.P. that, “we are pursuing the same objectives and adhering to the same political ideas we have been espousing for so long in Cité Libre…”

Among these ideas was “a politics open to the left.”

It should be understood, they explained, that “a political party is not an end, but a means.”

Trudeau, in other words, was still working for Communism. He had become a Liberal simply because the Liberals could win and the N.D.P. couldn’t. He was frankly using the Liberal Party, in accordance with the Maoist tactics he so admires.

The three revolutionaries were elected, shortly after which Prime Minister Lester Pearson appointed Trudeau his Parliamentary Secretary. Politicians and reporters stared at each other. Who is Trudeau? In 1967, Pearson appointed him Minister of Justice. Politicians and reporters stared at each other. Who is Trudeau? And in 1968 Pearson conveniently retired, opening the way for Lucky Pierre.

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/david-frum-the-disastrous-legacy-of-pierre-trudeau
Pierre Trudeau inherited a strong, growing and diversified Canadian economy.

When Trudeau at last left office for good in 1984, Canadians were still feeling the effects of Canada’s worst recession since the Great Depression. Eight years later, the country would tumble into another and even worse recession.

The two recessions 1981-82 and 1992-93 can both fairly be laid at Trudeau’s door.

Pierre Trudeau took office at a moment when commodity prices were rising worldwide. Then as now, rising commodity prices buoyed the Canadian economy. Good policymakers recognize that commodity prices fall as well as rise. A wise government does not make permanent commitments based on temporary revenues. Yet between 1969 and 1979 – through two majority governments and one minority – Trudeau tripled federal spending.

Nemesis followed hubris. Commodity prices dropped. Predictably, Canada tumbled into recession and the worst federal budget deficits in peacetime history.

Trudeau’s Conservative successor Brian Mulroney balanced Canada’s operating budget after 1984. But to squeeze out Trudeau-era inflation, the Bank of Canada had raised real interest rates very high. Mulroney could not keep up with the debt payments. The debt compounded, the deficits grew, the Bank hiked rates again – and Canada toppled into an even worse recession in 1992. By 1993, default on Trudeau’s debt loomed as a real possibility. Trudeau’s next successors, Liberals this time, squeezed even tighter, raising taxes, and leaving Canadians through the 1990s working harder and harder with no real increase in their standard of living.

Do Canadians understand how many of their difficulties of the 1990s originated in the 1970s? They should.
commented 2018-08-26 13:34:14 -0400
“Instead of being proud of our heritage the left wants to erase history and jamb multiculturalism down our throats. By multiculturalism I mean enclaves where different groups keep to themselves, form their own communities and do not assimilate around common values.”

There’s probably some middle-ground on the “heritage front”. Taking down statues is probably excessive, but MacDonald was by no means an unassailable hero to be unequivocally proud of. He has blood on his hands, and it was only denied for so long because of a subtle racism that allowed it to be, which put white “heros” on pedestals and sugar coated the damage to everyone else. Sir John A’s. railroad would not exist were it not for Chinese workers, may of whom died building it, and what they did to Indigenous communities resonates to this day.

Past immigrants didn’t assimilate. That one’s definitely untrue. The best known example is of course the Ukrainians in Manitoba, a community that was isolated for so long they developed their own dialect of Ukrainian, but there are others. In some cases, particularly for the Chinese, they had no choice but to be segregated because the Whites wanted nothing to do with them. My question to you is, have you reached out to these immigrant communities, or have you actively participated in maintaining the partitions. Do you wilfully reject the Muslims, or do you try to build bridges and find common ground? That’s how integration actually needs to work. The anti-immigrant types are just as guilty of balkanization as those they dislike.

“Multiculturalism with completely different values is democratic suicide”

What values? Even Bernier’s been very vague about what that means, summing it up as freedom of speech and religion, and complete equality, making no comment on any other value. That sort of "do your own thing, as long as you respect others’ is, in essence, its own form of pure multiculturalism since it doesn’t advocate for a monoculture beyond those few simple values. Even among “white” Canadians you’ll find few common cultural traits that are invariably shared – and that’s just fine. The talk of the need of “patriots” to take Canada back, and remodel it into one of those single-minded monocultures of right wing Euro-Christian traditionalists and marginalizing lefties and everyone else, is deeply unCanadian and does disservice to the principles of equality and freedom.
commented 2018-08-26 12:50:50 -0400
Sonny, I see a huge difference. Comedy is dead. You can’t make a joke about anyone. We are expected to loath ourselves and despise our ancestors. Instead of being proud of our heritage the left wants to erase history and jamb multiculturalism down our throats. By multiculturalism I mean enclaves where different groups keep to themselves, form their own communities and do not assimilate around common values. I have been to Sudan, Sri Lanka, Rwanda and Syria. I can tell you that as soon as some groups gain strength civil war follows. There is a new war forming in Sri Lanka as we speak because Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism just don’t mix. Diversity with common values, like the first waves of immigrants to this country is good. Multiculturalism with completely different values is democratic suicide. We need to understand this or Canada’s future is doomed.
commented 2018-08-26 11:40:15 -0400
Allan Peterson==Thanks for the old British Humor video; hope the Rebel comments never come to that. “no I didn’t, yes you did”

I believe Multiculturalism is responsible for killing the once great British humor, which most of the free World enjoyed.
commented 2018-08-26 11:27:08 -0400
“liza Rosie commented 14 mins ago
Many are saying Bernier is selfish. They are really talking about Scheer. Scheer is the one who is putting his career before the survival of this country. Screw Scheer, he won’t be good enough. :

Canada will be fine. Nothing Trudeau is doing differs substantially from policies of the last 50 years, while Bernier’s despised cultural ghettos have been around far longer than that.

You actually have to win an election to be able to implement a platform.
commented 2018-08-26 11:18:43 -0400
“Populism is on the rise. "

Bernier isn’t a populist. He’s a libertarian, which is different. Populists use the government to fulfill their agenda, while libertarians don’t. Nor is he anti-immigration – he just wants them to integrate better, and respect Canadian values, and his actual named values are all about personal freedom and equality, not anything to do with Judeo-Christian traditionalism which American populists seem gravitate towards. You might find a libertarian might actually eliminate the government privileges traditional families presently get, at the same time he decriminalizes “sin” crimes like drug use or prostitution, A Libertarian would certainly never allow talk about banning por nography or regulating abortion, both unwelcome government overreaches, unlike a certain conservative party….

Canada needs immigrants to avert demographic crisis, and Bernier knows it as well as anyone else does.

If you want to know why people get let down by politicians, it’s because they project on candidates, what they want politicians to be, not what they actually are. If you want vaguely Christian social conservatism, Scheer is your best bet. If Bernier is religious (he’s never given any indication at all he is), he doesn’t let it steep into his own life or political opinions.

They may also assume what works in the US will work in Canada. There simply arent’ enough rural white evangelicals to pull off a Trump here and most of them already all vote conservative. You need a big tent to capture marginal Liberals, by necessity watering it down beyond what the Base wants. Even Doug Ford won his majority in Toronto’s suburbs, which are often 60 or 70% or more, immigrant.
commented 2018-08-26 11:11:41 -0400
FLATWATER.. FLATEARTH
How about just don’t feed the trolls or if you have to rebuttal them speak to them in a third-party capacity.
________________________________________________________________________________I recall you having a long dragged out first person head to head with Sonny Ways recently. Change of heart?

FLATWATER.. FLATEARTH
How about just don’t feed the trolls or if you have to rebuttal them speak to them in a third-party capacity.
________________________________________________________________________________I recall you having a long dragged out first person head to head with Sonny Ways recently. Change of heart?Even third person address does not really get to the point if the content is just name calling. Learn the weakness of the argument so the counter argument is not also weak.

FLATWATER.. FLATEARTH
How about just don’t feed the trolls or if you have to rebuttal them speak to them in a third-party capacity.
________________________________________________________________________________I recall you having a long dragged out first person head to head with Sonny Ways recently. Change of heart?Even third person address does not really get to the point if the content is just name calling. Learn the weakness of the argument so the counter argument is not also weak.No one seems to agree on what feeding the trolls entails. Speaking truth to BS is not feeding the trolls. Mindless name calling is.
commented 2018-08-26 11:06:56 -0400
Many are saying Bernier is selfish. They are really talking about Scheer. Scheer is the one who is putting his career before the survival of this country. Screw Scheer, he won’t be good enough.
commented 2018-08-26 10:54:40 -0400
You know someone pretending to be a conservative is finished when Gerald Butts tells him to just be himself and not worry. Maybe Butts is doing his fckery because he thinks it will turn people against Scheer. Scheer turned people against Scheer, and the liberals can handle Scheer but are terrified of Bernier, and they should be.

I agree with FVP in the link I provided. I tuely think Justin(and Butts) are unhinged, unstable, maniacal.
commented 2018-08-26 10:53:17 -0400
ALLAN PETERSON commented 3 mins ago
JAMIE MACMASTER commented 9 mins ago
“f an intelligent person were looking for a new site and gave The Rebel a shot, do you think they would be impressed with with 50 comments going back and forth with The Rebels and the Trolls calling each other Dummies? "

I would hope that an intelligent person would simply accept the pudd-pullers as one more sign of our troubled times: useless adults.
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A lot of the arguments here on both sides tend to be childish reactions. One needs to start with the left’s presuppositions and work on those. Other wise it just looks like this.
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How about just don’t feed the trolls or if you have to rebuttal them speak to them in a third-party capacity
commented 2018-08-26 10:50:40 -0400
Wow… mr 2% if the paperwork is for real it is quite obvious where Andrew sheers loyalty lies … He is shearing the people.. no pun intended.. I am getting so sick of people that worship money.!!
commented 2018-08-26 10:47:14 -0400
JAMIE MACMASTER commented 9 mins ago
“f an intelligent person were looking for a new site and gave The Rebel a shot, do you think they would be impressed with with 50 comments going back and forth with The Rebels and the Trolls calling each other Dummies? "

I would hope that an intelligent person would simply accept the pudd-pullers as one more sign of our troubled times: useless adults.
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A lot of the arguments here on both sides tend to be childish reactions. One needs to start with the left’s presuppositions and work on those. Other wise it just looks like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvcnx6-0GhA