April 28, 2018

“Excuse shopping” in aftermath of Toronto terror attack not helpful

David MenziesMission Specialist

 

On Friday’s episode of Rebel Roundup, Toronto Sun reporter Joe Warmington joined me to discuss the despicable act of terror that recently occurred in Toronto.

A seasoned reporter, Joe is no stranger to tragedy but this one hit close to home.

Watch as I speak with Joe at the scene of the crime and he explains why the “excuse shopping” that has occurred in the aftermath of this horrific attack, isn’t helpful.

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commented 2018-05-01 09:39:09 -0400
10 dead , 15 wounded so far
commented 2018-04-30 23:41:28 -0400
The tree of liberty from time to time must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots .
commented 2018-04-30 22:00:10 -0400
When we all do what we want Lisa we are not going down the path to being a unified force through cohesive effort.!!
We can all agree to disagree on the minor details but when it comes to the big picture I would say that the conservatives that post here agree more on the big things than they disagree on the little ones… And that being the case then we agree enough to become a cohesive unit .
commented 2018-04-30 21:34:48 -0400
As far as this van attack killing 19(?) innocent people is concerned. We need the truth. That is all I am saying. How are we expected to not be suspicious of the perp using VAN as a weapon of choice.? They know his background, they need to reveal it. The longer they wait and the less they say the worse it will get.
commented 2018-04-30 21:30:06 -0400
“You’re fighting against something that isn’t happening”
Andrew you just won’t accept it and I understand, its hard to accept and easier to ignore. You are Justin’s perfect citizen. Good luck when the shit really hits the fan

" It isn’t a strict choice between cutting off Muslims entirely and Sharia."
What do you mean by this statement?

My personal view is this. We have met our limit for illegals, asylum seekers, refugees and migrants. I resent it, and so do people who come in the right way through the front door.
I feel sorry for Muslims because they are caught in a cult, but the worst thing is they want their cult to grow in Canada and I don’t. I mostly feel sorry for them. I blame the government more than I blame them. They are just doing what they do.

I love Apostates and will help anyone who frees themselves from the grip of Islam, if they come in the front door legally.

….and there is absolutely no room for two sets of laws in Canada. We have but ONE, and I will not accept any accommodation of sharia law, no way no how.

Andrew you may call that hateful but you are misguided. Every country and its people have a right to strong borders, and their own identity, and when a government floods a country with people from cultures which not only do not mix, but are the antithesis of ours, it is a threat. The government has allowed this and I hold them responsible.
You don’t see a problem. I do.
Personally, I think ignoring a threat is hateful, hateful to the country and especially to the next generation. Hateful because it is irresponsible.
commented 2018-04-30 21:11:39 -0400
You can’t turf him but temporarily, he just comes back with a new name and account anyway. He is worse than a bad rash. He gets thrown off all the time, why do you think he resurfaces with a new name. When he starts spamming or calling people names/cursing, since its against the rules and a legit reason, I flag him. I flag him every chance I can get. We wouldn’t put up with an obvious disturber for the sake of disturbing in our house or at our dinner table, why would we put up with it here. If he doesn’t want to be civil to hell with him. He acts like a child.

We are not a cohesive group FEFW. I don’t agree with everyone here and I’m sure you don’t either. I say to hell with assholes, I’m fed up with him. He can’t be civil and only wants to bicker and taunt. It keeps people from posting. It’s immature,childish and ignorant. You can do what ever you want but I’m flagging him and do often.
commented 2018-04-30 21:11:12 -0400
|“Canadian patriots who post here are fighting to save Canada from being turned into Canadastan, i.e. a Sharia hellhole like Pakistan, where Christians are regularly murdered just for not being Muslims. “John Wick” is a deluded little troll who can’t wait to make Canadastan a reality.”

You’re fighting against something that isn’t happening. It isnt’ a strict choice between cutting off Muslims entirely and Sharia.
commented 2018-04-30 20:36:09 -0400
No they should not turf him… That directly goes against freedom of speech. What should happen is he should be abandoned to the wilderness by not being fed and despite his best efforts to pull somebody into engage.. if it doesn’t happen the troll will implode and there inlies the payout.!!
Until it happens just that way we are going against freedom of speech which would make us hypocrites and it may imply that we are not a cohesive group that is able to stand together on issues that concern us.
It would be a good lesson in solidarity and perhaps that’s what we all need at this point.!
commented 2018-04-30 20:24:09 -0400
The only empowerment they have is the empowerment we give them when we engage… They are not here for any objective opinion and they don’t play by a moral code or standard… There are mantra is “rules are for fools”
commented 2018-04-30 20:22:11 -0400
If you feed stray cats out of kindness sooner or later skunks show up and ruin it for everybody … stop feeding the trolls
commented 2018-04-30 20:19:10 -0400
That troll would be powerless except for people that say “he’s not going anywhere”… Quit feeding the trols they all get frustrated and self implode. If we can’t even stick together on an issue like not feeding the trolls how are we ever going to make a difference in anything really important .
commented 2018-04-30 19:18:17 -0400
BTW, tho clarify: This isn’t a free speech issue. If this troll’s purpose here was to simply have a point of view that differs from the majority and express it, I am fine with that, as I have made clear in the past. No, this is a different matter, namely a deliberate attempt to sabotage TheRebel website by simply being as obnoxious to conservatives as possible, thereby driving good people away from the website. The Rebel shouldn’t tolerate that.

Common Sense, you may be right about this troll’s true identity, I don’t know. But I know from his ‘contributions’ to this thread alone that he is deliberately being as obnoxious as possible to conservatives in order to drive viewers away from the website and drive down the viewership here. That shouldn’t be tolerated. This website has an important mission to save Canada from morons and traitors, and it’s too important to be sabotaged.
commented 2018-04-30 19:03:42 -0400
FEFW said" just starve them out and they will go away." FEFW, I don’t think this troll is going anywhere.

EZRA, I was thinking about this today, and I had in mind what FEFW suggested, but I don’t think it will work, at least not with this particular troll. He is clearly obsessed with being an obnoxious nuisance here and will keep on being one until he is removed. His objective here is not to contribute anything positive, but just to insult and irritate conservative commenters so they will go away. His ‘contribution’ to this thread is a prime example of that. But this is a conservative website and conservatives shouldn’t have to put up with that here. For this reason, even though I have argued against this in the past, I think TheRebel should turf him off this website.
commented 2018-04-30 18:14:30 -0400
One of Gordo Steele’s favourite things, and the obvious give away to his identity, was to create yet another alias, and then leave comments that support his own comments; the only supportive comments he ever got. A dead giveaway, he didn’t even bother to change the language and phrases he used. The funniest part was when he lost track of what he said under what alias. So here we have Andrew Gordo Steele Stephenson being supportive of John Wick, and vice versa, too obvious. By the way,
Andrew Gordo Steele Stephenson, you OWE everyone an explanation as to why you lied about holding a PhD, especially those who hold/earned a valid one. you are a pathetic little liar.
commented 2018-04-30 15:30:55 -0400
Come on now… Both you girls pull your skirts down because your junk is showing and nobody wants to see that… have some decency… some of us just ate.

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Ted… I believe that there might be some kind of compensation for their attempts at distraction, distruction and disruption.. I have seen ads before hiring people paying overtime as well as travel time to disrupt peaceful gatherings incite riots and just generally cause mischief and be troublemakers… They were paying just over $16 an hour US and offering transportation as well as monies back for things like lunch busfare and such…
The more these malignant seditious little monkeys tell us their not being compensated the more I don’t believe them as they have all been proven hypocrites and pathological liar’s so there would be no point believing anything they say because they would only tell the truth once to make five lies more believable .
But they are really tough behind the keyboard… But when I accepted an offer to have coffee with one of them in Chinatown in any city across Canada their choice, they suddenly became terrified of that notion then deflected and denied.. incidentally that offer still stands .
They will never do anything here on this site other than be a nuisance or an inconvenience so from this point on what we should do is laugh at the trolls and move on no longer corresponding with them .
Our commitment to the cause is what they feed on if we let them so just starve them out and they will go away .
commented 2018-04-30 15:06:06 -0400
‘John Wick’, you’re either paid or a freedom-hating psychopath. Take your pick, you pathetic little troll.

Canadian patriots who post here are fighting to save Canada from being turned into Canadastan, i.e. a Sharia hellhole like Pakistan, where Christians are regularly murdered just for not being Muslims. “John Wick” is a deluded little troll who can’t wait to make Canadastan a reality. Every Canadian is ultimately going to have to choose a side, being either for a civilized Western democratic Canada, or for a Sharia Canadastan in which there will be no Parliament (that is anathema to Sharia Islam) or Legislatures (same thing, anathema to Sharia Islam), no equality of the sexes before the law (a woman’s testimony under Sharia Islam is worth half that of a man’s, and women’s intellect is considered inferior to men’s ), a country in which Christians and Jews will be levied an exorbitant Dhimi tax for not being Muslims, and will be subjugated in numerous other ways to Muslims, as they have been for centuries in many Muslim countries. Atheists who don’t convert to Islam will be killed.

Pathetic little trolls like “John Wick” and others better start thinking about where the left is taking this country. Unless these trolls are for that Sharia system, in which non-Muslims will be considered the scum of the Earth and made to feel that way every day that they are allowed to live, which likely won’t be long. These stupid leftard troll morons are being used to bring about the destruction of their own freedom and security. If only just one of them had the brainpower to realize that. But no. Their shrunken atheist minds aren’t up to the task of educating themselves on the imperialist cultures they are so intent on bringing en mass into this country, to their own destruction and the destruction of their children and grandchildren, if they live to have them, which is becoming increasingly unlikely as they rack up success after success in destroying their own support system, i.e. the Judeo-Christian culture and country that gave them everything that they are now in the process of destroying. They truly do deserve the fate they are bringing on themselves, but alas, it will take everyone down.
commented 2018-04-30 14:29:27 -0400
“John Wick commented 37 mins ago
I wish I was paid to be here. It’s hilarious that conservative morons here actually think that’s a real thing. "

I agree, where do I sign up? I’ve been giving my opinions away for free, when they’re apparently worth actual money.
commented 2018-04-30 13:47:56 -0400
Liza, it was actually your comment 10 hours previous that caused me to realize what the paid troll’s ultimate game is here. That, and his repetative taunts. He is here for the purpose, as you said, of steering the conversation away from the topic and driving away viewers who are looking to find some relevant insight into the topic in the comments section. So thanks for that. It can be difficult to discern whether the troll’s motive is agenda-driven (the agenda being the destruction of the right and its media) or just the ravings of a leftard who can’t control his psychopathic tendencies. And when you see the kind of juvenile taunting that ‘john Wick’ engaged in on this thread, it would seem to be some of each. But ultimately, I think they are serious about destroying our media outlet here and undoubtedly others as well. So we do have to be vigilant to prevent that, and my thanks to you and others here who have alerted me to that. I think I finally get the picture as to how sick these trolls really are.

But no sicker than the Canada-hating Liberals and their MSM comrades, who can’t wait to see this country become a full-fledged Third World jihadi craphouse like we have so many examples of in southern Asia and northern Africa, with post-Christian Europe now following close behind. Muta is right that we have to get these civilization-destroying leftards out of office asap. But since they have also wormed their way into the government beaurocracies, the judiciary across the country, and the education system from coast to coast to coast, it is going to be a long, hard struggle to save this country. But if we can get immigration under control (Socks Clown the Third World Culture Lover has to go for that to happen), it might still be possible to save Canada as a civilized country. But the massacre in Toronto is a wake-up call that there is very little time left before it’s too late. Whatever the motive of the maniac who do this evil act, we know that more is coming, if we don’t get it under control.

So thanks to Ezra, The Rebel staff who work hard every day to save this country, and to every Canadian patriot who posts on this blog. You are the people who will be remembered as having stood up against Canada’s enemies, foreign and domestic, who were out to destroy this country just as it was reaching its greatest potential., When the leftard traitors began taking over its crucial institutions and handing the country over to its enemies, you did not keep silent, but sounded the alarm to your fellow Canadians, and for that you deserve our thanks. As for the leftard traitors who are now wreaking havoc on Canada, they will be remembered with utter contempt, and rightly so. They are traitors, intentional or not, and are in fact the “worst part of our society”.
commented 2018-04-30 13:39:45 -0400
Wow, watching you people twist yoruselves in knots trying to turn this into an anti-Muslim smear is disturbing. Thankfully most of us aren’t so blinded by hatred to feel the need to invent such a bizarre alternative reality.
commented 2018-04-30 12:03:03 -0400
Regarding Ted Tadrights’s comment and advise ,let me add that Ontario has the first opportunity to throw these progressive socialist Marxists out of office in June.
For the sake of the country let’s hope Ontarians do the right thing and destroy Wynne politically.
commented 2018-04-30 10:45:58 -0400
Ted had some really good advice.
commented 2018-04-30 10:36:11 -0400
Johnny wee wick must have been into booze and pills last night, talking oh so tough through the comfort of anonymity while soiling a pair of sweat pants with excitement. What a pathetic, wee little minded troll.
commented 2018-04-30 10:08:35 -0400
Somewhere he has been involved with the Muslims, he took a page right out of the terrorist handbook with the rental of a truck and running people over!
commented 2018-04-30 09:15:43 -0400
…and in respect to those murdered that day the truth must be revealed. All of it.
commented 2018-04-30 09:12:41 -0400
We cannot be another Paris or London. Overcome they all say.
That’s exactly what Tory said. “overcome”
We need to be so outraged that we don’t ‘overcome’ until we have done absolutely everything in our power to get ALL the information on this guy, and all these covered up events. I refuse to overcome a lie and the people lying need to be held accountable. The very next day around the same time of the attack the previous day they were powerwashing the street. Washing away the blood of all those dead Torontonians, including a visitor.
All clean now, nothing to see, carry on, overcome.
Everyday at 1:30 when I am trying to finish my lunch all I can think of are those people. Alive one minute in the sunshine on a spring day on Yonge street and dead and ripped apart all over the street in the next flash.

I don’t know who it was , I have never seen his name here, but he posted right after the attack, ‘Everything will be ok.’ Mocking us? I don’t know but everything will not be okay ever again. This should have changed us forever and if it has not we need to wake up from our complacency. and misguided trust. Our leaders do not have our backs in my opinion we are on our own.
commented 2018-04-30 08:58:20 -0400
I appreciate your comments Ted. The msm is ‘neglecting’ to reveal all the information under the direction of someone in our government make no mistake. As well there is some hinky cover up by the police in my opinion. I will never apologise for my questions and concerns because as far as I am concerned, if the powers that be don’t like what they call ‘conspiracy theories’ from the public they need to come up with one of two efforts, better lies and more information or the truth and more information. I will fight tooth and nail for Canada to not be another Paris or L
commented 2018-04-30 08:58:20 -0400
I appreciate your comments Ted. The msm is ‘neglecting’ to reveal all the information under the direction of someone in our government make no mistake. As well there is some hinky cover up by the police in my opinion. I will never apologise for my questions and concerns because as far as I am concerned, if the powers that be don’t like what they call ‘conspiracy theories’ from the public they need to come up with one of two efforts, better lies and more information or the truth and more information. I will fight tooth and nail for Canada to not be another Paris or L
commented 2018-04-30 04:33:11 -0400
Torontonians, Ontarians and Canadians in general should keep sending emails and letters to MSM outlets demanding information on Minassian’s religious beliefs (i.e. Is he a jihadist?), given that the Toronto massacre was carried out like a typical jihadist vehicular terror attack, and it seems unlikely that this would just be coincidental. Canadians need to know the truth about this attack if they are to be prevented in the future.
commented 2018-04-30 04:12:58 -0400
BTW, full disclosure: Toward the beginning of the comments on this thread, I was taken in by troll ‘John Wick’s ploy when he called the deceased Elliot Rodger “white bread” in order to divert the conversation away from the topic of the MSM likely coverup of the Toronto massacre. I then checked the conversation from time to time to see what would happen, and sure enough, the new “white bread” topic took over the conversation and for all practical purposes blotted out the main topic. So I’ll be on the lookout for that ploy by the resident trolls here from now on, and my apologies to everyone for inadvertently aiding ‘John Wick’ in his devious ploy. Again, my suggestion, having learned the hard way, is to just ignore his numskull off-topic comments completely. If he is talking on-topic, that’s a different matter; fire away at him. But don’t get taken in by his red herrings as I did.
commented 2018-04-30 03:55:20 -0400
Joe Warmington is right that understanding why Minassian did his jihadi-style attack requires outside-the-box thinking. the MSM have tried to wrap it up in a nice little Incel box with a bow on it, but that is also what they did in the Las Vegas massacre. the fact that no information about the attackers’ religious beliefs has been transmitted to the public in either case, plus the near-total silence of the MSM on the skepticism of much of the public shows they are hiding facts from the public. In the Las Vegas case. the attacker had been visiting the Middle East prior to the attack, but that is all we know; the MSM have been curiously incurious about which countries he visited and for how long, and where he went there and who he saw. It all smacks of a coverup, just as their behavior in the Toronto case does.The MSM outlets are truly the darker corners of the internet these days.

Folks, the troll ‘John Wick’ (who is probably paid to be here on a regular basis) has been playing a game of generating a conversation that is off-topic in order to divert attention away from this very important topic of the MSM’s role in suppressing the truth of these kinds of attacks from the public. So just ignore ‘John Wick’ and let’s focus on the topic at hand. Don’t be taken in by ‘John Wick’s attempts to sabotage the on-topic conversation. This is too important to Canadians to let trolls like him divert our attention away from it. Of course, if you want a little comic relief, you can always scroll down a ways and take in some of his non-serious drivel. Just don’t bother to reply to any of it, which is what he wants you to do in order to get the conversation off-topic.