October 12, 2016

“Laurentian Elites” can’t handle Trump’s Canadian healthcare truth

Brian LilleyArchive

Donald Trump’s comment about Canadian healthcare during the second Presidential debate  sent many among the Laurentian Elites in this country running for the smelling salts. 

How dare a right-wing American say something bad about our system? Many wanted to debunk his statement but the problem is, what he said is true.

Watch as I provide some examples showing there definitely are problems in our system and more often than not, our safety valve is to seek treatment in the United States.

Donald Trump spoke truth during that debate even though it may be a truth Canadians don’t want to hear.

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commented 2016-10-15 12:39:41 -0400
Jimmy Reece; I have to wa it 8 months (just for appointment) to get Dr. Rotorooter to unblock my water line. On the other hand I’ve battled cancer,been on chemo a year and had great care. Then there are good friends who have had to wait 18 months in great pain for hip or knee surgery. So it’s all over the map. It’s not perfect north or south of the border but I would say the U.S. has the edge. Doesn’t hurt to be honest.
commented 2016-10-14 02:18:03 -0400
Jimmy more like you left wing idiots buy into propaganda, we support the truth , you are a moron.
commented 2016-10-14 02:17:08 -0400
Andrew less people have insurance under Obamacare, you are lost. It has done little for people.
commented 2016-10-14 02:16:36 -0400
Jimmy that is crap.
commented 2016-10-13 21:49:01 -0400
I guess I am just the luckiest Canadian alive. I have never had to wait long for anything. I have a great family doctor and when I need MRI’s, scans, whatever – boom, I get it done in a few days.
commented 2016-10-13 15:19:36 -0400
I have lived in four difference Provinces and based on my experiences and those of many others, we have Universal Health Care, but the problem is not good health care, but rather a severe lack of Universal Access to that care. An on line search of wait times for medical procedures in Canada provides data from many sources and media outlets that overwhelming supports Trump’s assessment of our flawed health system. The facts are that despite government pledges to reduce patient wait times, Canadians overall are waiting longer to see a specialist, undergo diagnostic testing and begin treatment for medical problems ranging from orthopedic surgery to cancer.
commented 2016-10-13 15:05:36 -0400
Dave MacPherson,

You do understand that there are millions of conservatives/Republicans that are also pro-choice and think a woman should be able to have control of her body right?
commented 2016-10-13 14:25:33 -0400
Canadian Healthcare HAS TO BE Public / Private – there HAS TO BE CHOICE!

The only Choice that Leftists believe in is the “Choice” to MURDER Unborn / Preborn Babies 💔

God bless Dr Brian Day on his Court Challenge!!! ❤️
commented 2016-10-13 11:03:27 -0400
Kelly Weber commented 15 hours ago
“My husband was diagnosed with heart failure, …. If we lived in the US and had to pay a deductible every time we’d be broke. "

Your situation would probably be a lot worse than that. Prior to Obamacare, it would have been extremely difficult to find insurance at all with a chronic condition like heart failure. You’d be out of pocket for the entire cost … which is beyond the reach of most individuals.
commented 2016-10-13 11:00:50 -0400
“Al Peterson commented 14 hours ago
Jimmy why was there the big news story today on the LSM about how thousands of Canadians are leaving Canuckistan for treatment?”

I think it would be worth asking … what’s the median income among those that do that? I suspect you’re talking the same top 5% or so, that would have access to top notch care were they American, as the Canadian experience mirrors those of uninsurable Americans.

I ask anybody here at the Rebel … can you afford to go to the states and pay for private healthcare right now? If the answer is no, then chances are you wouldn’t be able to afford that care were you American either.
commented 2016-10-13 09:43:43 -0400
45000 PEOPLE WENT TO THE USA.IS IT TRUE?IF IT IS YES STF UP.That all he said get over it.
commented 2016-10-13 08:17:44 -0400
NO Jimmy Reece -you have not had decent health care – your sick & contrary mind is evidence of that. You require a secure mental health institution – where your reality can be kept safe from the rest of us – & yourself.
commented 2016-10-13 06:04:38 -0400
Drew Wakariuk,

Holy fuck, you are retarded. I was making a sort of joke regarding my conspiracy theory of liberals vs. conservatives and the healthcare system, because you dummies regularly buy into hyperbole, propaganda and conspiracy theories – so it just seem appropriate.

And you actually thought I was serious.

You make Ryan Lochte look like a candidate for Mensa.
commented 2016-10-13 04:48:19 -0400
Rebelation Rebelation,

The reality actually is that you can’t handle opposing views. You want The Rebel to be YOUR safe space where conservatives just agree with each other. Just look at how people like you freak out and lose their shit – every single time an opposing view is posted. Cleary people like you here have mental issues and perhaps anger management would be a good start.
commented 2016-10-13 02:14:46 -0400
Jimmy Reece more like the left has a cow when they do not get their way, when Harper won the whining and crying was ridiculous. And the BS said about him was ludicrous. So spare us your BS and try reality. Alberta is going down the shitter with the NDP, and Justin is a joke as the PM. What good has he done for Canadians?
commented 2016-10-13 02:12:22 -0400
Mitch Powell some people would have died waiting for our system. there are tons of problems.
commented 2016-10-13 02:11:07 -0400
Jimmy Reece you have not used it very much then. And politicians from all parties will get faster service than us. It is not a partisan thing, you cannot tell someones political beliefs in a medical report. I asked something similar to the robocalls conspiracy idiots. How the hell do you call Liberals from a phone list? Ballots are secret.
commented 2016-10-13 02:07:13 -0400
Actually Reece – you’re evidence our health care system is broken. (and our education system too!!).
Thanks for providing us with first-hand evidence.
commented 2016-10-13 02:05:16 -0400
Chronic Condition is an excellent book, now considered the Gold Standard amongst professionals, comparing Canada’s system to those around the world, and putting forth some suggestions how to fix it.
It’s well worth reading.

Reece. You have to have some pretty serious psychiatric problems coming here every single day for no other reason than trying to provoke others. One of the symptoms of these psychiatric problems is you lack sufficient self-awareness to be embarrassed. You’re so shallow you actually think you’re being clever,
and no one can see what you’re up to, like a child trying to trick his parents.
commented 2016-10-12 23:49:50 -0400
I guess it sucks to be some of you – I have had great healthcare in Canada and my friends and family feel the same way.

I am surprised that no one here has come up with a conspiracy theory that the Canadian healthcare system looks into how you voted.

If you vote liberal – you get fantastic healthcare and they approve everything. If you vote conservative – you get poor healthcare and they deny everything.

You know it’s true.
commented 2016-10-12 21:53:41 -0400
I’ve had a cousin have to seek quad bypass in the states because the wait time here was a death sentence. My mother was misdiagnosed and by the time her true prognosis was made she was told no treatment existed here – but it does at clinics in the US – she was offered only palliative care here.

In 2014, 52,513 Canadians travelled abroad to seek medical treatment, compared with 41,838 in 2013. The numbers suggest that the Canadian health care system could not comply with the needs and demands of a substantial number of Canadian patients, according to the latest Frasier Inst. study.

We lag behind even former Soviet satellites in health care quality.
commented 2016-10-12 21:42:20 -0400
By the time Jimmy realizes he was cucked the nice nurse will be administering his euthanasia injection, then all his foamy-mouthed confusion will be over.
commented 2016-10-12 21:16:30 -0400
Oh, and Jimmy, I paid for it myself with the help of some friends. My total cost was about $1500 in New York. The Tribunal must have spent at least $20,000 to deny me the trip. DO I despise lefties? Damn right I do. They are lying, self deluded and willfully blind. Sound like anyone you see in the mirror?
commented 2016-10-12 21:14:34 -0400
Jimmy, I tried to get Manitoba Health to send me to the US for a mere diagnosis since the 9 specialist I’ve seen here can tell me nothing. I spent 6 months arguing with their lawyer (why a lawyer and not a doctor?). As I suspected they denied me the trip on the lame excuse that they didn’t like the way my doctor write the request letter. That was after shooting down their previous half dozen excuses.

The “independent” tribunal was in the back pocket of the NDP government and wouldn’t get their $400 a day in pay if they didn’t follow orders. Quite frankly they don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves. Typical lefties. Looking out for number one.
commented 2016-10-12 21:05:18 -0400
Jimmy why was there the big news story today on the LSM about how thousands of Canadians are leaving Canuckistan for treatment?

Kelly Weber this proves what I always say about our health system. We DO NOT have the best healthcare system in the world. We have the best critical care clinic in the world. When you are on deaths door with one of the big three (heart attack, stroke, cancer) then they pull out all the stops. Otherwise you wait or go to the US or Germany. See moment above. Glad it has worked out for you. As for me after 7 years+ I’m still waiting.
commented 2016-10-12 20:53:10 -0400

That’s not even remotely true. Why are conservatives so hyperbolic all the time – there is no middle ground. Everything is DOOMED if it doesn’t go the conservative way.

Hillary is going to be President and you will see that America will be just fine after her 8 years. America won’t be destroyed like everyone here thinks.
commented 2016-10-12 19:58:52 -0400
Kelly Weber, I’m glad that you’re husband has been treated so quickly and that you have a good story. But for every one good story there are thousands of not so good stories.
commented 2016-10-12 19:45:16 -0400

You are, of course, entitled to your opinions but you do sound awfully like a Troll in sheep’s clothing.

Just a thought.
commented 2016-10-12 19:32:19 -0400
My husband was diagnosed with heart failure, 1 week later had an ICD implanted. Last year he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and 2 weeks later had the Whipple procedure done. The surgeon did cancel some some non-emergency surgerys in order to get my husband in. Now he has an oncologist, a pain specialist, heart specialist and a home nurse once a week. Four times a year goes to the hospital to have his ICD checked. I am thankful everyday for our health care. If we lived in the US and had to pay a deductible every time we’d be broke.
commented 2016-10-12 19:32:12 -0400
Mitch if you think Hilary is better there is something wrong with your reasoning.I’ve heard people say they want to donate to Hatti but they don’t want the Clintons to get it.
It is all over for the USA if Hilary is elected.A putz is better than habitual liar.
I told you last week when Iran was harassing US war ships that they would try to sink one.And it will happen with Oboma or Hilary as pres.