February 16, 2017

“Mandatory military service would do ‘triggered’ boys and girls some good”

Faith GoldyRebel Host Faith Goldy
 

As guest host of Ezra's show last night, I laid out five policy ideas I hope Conservative Party leadership candidates should adopt, including building up our military — and not just in terms of investing in new equipment, either...

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commented 2017-02-21 10:34:52 -0500
I’ve given Joey time to respond, because people do have other things to attend to, but I see Joey took a powder after making a big stink on this thread. Hit and run tactic so typical of a troll.

It is interesting to note how he contradicts himself.

From his postings – "Space Moose is right about what and where we should use our military. Re Faith not being in the military, I am not a computer scientist, but I encourage the use and improvement of computers. AND… I want the killers to protect me, who has become a retired old sucker…
Trouble, will you take the Sharia law which this motion 103 will surely bring over a draft? Wish I was young enough to go kick as on the streets (vie military) against these Muslim SJW turds! "

He agrees with the Space Moose who claimed “The people that are enlisted in the military are either suckers or killers.” yet claims he is too old to serve but wishes he could. Nothing like a libtard troll.
commented 2017-02-20 03:25:07 -0500
Joe Boudreault commented
“Dave Ross – I agree. But I think Jack was actually referring to what he believes young people think, not what he believes… No need to name-call. They kick you out of the military for that. Officers are “Sir!” Enlisted men are “Corporal!” and “Sargent!. “Dumb putz” and “insufferable idiot”, spoken in barracks or in the field, would get you a dishonorable discharge to Civvie Street.”

BS, you do not get kicked out for name calling, reprimanded yes, kicked out no.
commented 2017-02-20 03:09:36 -0500
Joe Boudreault commented
“Hyacinth – your observation about Wikipedia is accepted. I agree. However, while their site is sometimes left-biased, it is still a great resource. You can test it by listing half a dozen topics which you are familiar with and going there to vet them. Example, your home town or province. See what Wikipedia says. They are certainly much better in most cases on facts than are national Geographic. But truth hides among the lies, everywhere. Don’t throw out the baby with the wash water, eh? And: did you serve? "

Joe, higher halls of academia consider a reference by wiki unacceptable, it is frowned on, even wiki admits it may not be accurate, it is only a tool to aid you in finding other sites that are more accurate. Yes I did serve, MCpl 22nd Svc Bn.
commented 2017-02-18 16:05:46 -0500
See what I mean? See what I mean? Must contact the software engineers at this site…
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commented 2017-02-18 16:04:35 -0500
Darn! This site is so slow that I clicked twice to post and it posted twice.
commented 2017-02-18 16:03:55 -0500
Darn! This site is so slow that I clicked twice to post and it posted twice.
commented 2017-02-18 16:02:32 -0500
Hyacinth – your observation about Wikipedia is accepted. I agree. However, while their site is sometimes left-biased, it is still a great resource. You can test it by listing half a dozen topics which you are familiar with and going there to vet them. Example, your home town or province. See what Wikipedia says. They are certainly much better in most cases on facts than are national Geographic. But truth hides among the lies, everywhere. Don’t throw out the baby with the wash water, eh? And: did you serve?

Space Moose is right about what and where we should use our military. Re Faith not being in the military, I am not a computer scientist, but I encourage the use and improvement of computers. AND… I want the killers to protect me, who has become a retired old sucker…
Trouble, will you take the Sharia law which this motion 103 will surely bring over a draft? Wish I was young enough to go kick as on the streets (vie military) against these Muslim SJW turds!

Dave Ross – I agree. But I think Jack was actually referring to what he believes young people think, not what he believes… No need to name-call. They kick you out of the military for that. Officers are “Sir!” Enlisted men are “Corporal!” and “Sargent!. “Dumb putz” and “insufferable idiot”, spoken in barracks or in the field, would get you a dishonorable discharge to Civvie Street.
commented 2017-02-18 16:02:32 -0500
Hyacinth – your observation about Wikipedia is accepted. I agree. However, while their site is sometimes left-biased, it is still a great resource. You can test it by listing half a dozen topics which you are familiar with and going there to vet them. Example, your home town or province. See what Wikipedia says. They are certainly much better in most cases on facts than are national Geographic. But truth hides among the lies, everywhere. Don’t throw out the baby with the wash water, eh? And: did you serve?

Space Moose is right about what and where we should use our military. Re Faith not being in the military, I am not a computer scientist, but I encourage the use and improvement of computers. AND… I want the killers to protect me, who has become a retired old sucker…
Trouble, will you take the Sharia law which this motion 103 will surely bring over a draft? Wish I was young enough to go kick as on the streets (vie military) against these Muslim SJW turds!

Dave Ross – I agree. But I think Jack was actually referring to what he believes young people think, not what he believes… No need to name-call. They kick you out of the military for that. Officers are “Sir!” Enlisted men are “Corporal!” and “Sargent!. “Dumb putz” and “insufferable idiot”, spoken in barracks or in the field, would get you a dishonorable discharge to Civvie Street.
commented 2017-02-17 20:09:31 -0500
Space Moose is from Alberta.
commented 2017-02-17 04:12:35 -0500
Space Moose,
You certainly chose an appropriate alias for yourself. You truly are vacuous (Space) and thick (Moose).
commented 2017-02-17 03:34:47 -0500
I am not defending the bill. I am just saying that it is not as bad as it sounds. I would take the bill over conscription any day of the week. My guess is, Drew was never in the military.
commented 2017-02-17 03:26:02 -0500
Space Moose actually anyone who defends m103 like you do is a sucker.
commented 2017-02-17 03:25:32 -0500
Jack Carter we are not a peace keeping country because the left says so. You are a wimp.
commented 2017-02-17 03:09:59 -0500
The people that are enlisted in the military are either suckers or killers.
commented 2017-02-17 02:19:59 -0500
Jack Cater wrote ;“The last thing any young Canadian would want to do is join the military. Jail would almost be a preference, because they just don’t agree with the military mindset of past generations and certainly don’t think it would be a great career. They have their own goals and dreams.”
Who do you think makes up our present military that goes over seas to fight threats to our liberty before those threats reach our country? Young people. They are doing today exactly what our young people did in WW1 ,WW 2 , Korea etc.
You dumb putz. Its our military and its young warriors that fought to give you the freedom you enjoy today you insufferable idiot.
By the way, the only reason Canada doesn’t spend a whole bunch on military equipment and arms these days is because of our well armed big brother to the south (who also protects your wimpy ass ) that gets a “hard on about guns” and who gets continual shameful criticism for it by the likes of you.
If we ever got invaded you would be wetting your pants and looking over your shoulder for protection from the US.
commented 2017-02-17 02:16:32 -0500
I would like to know if Faith or any of the other rebel staff have ever served in the military. If faith was not in the military, then she should not be encouraging conscription.

The only time conscription makes sense is when you are getting invaded. I do not care if it is the second world war or Iraq. Unless you are getting attacked, you do not enact conscription.

I would much rather have conscription to defend the Canadian border against the fake refugees, then to send people out of the country.
commented 2017-02-17 01:40:00 -0500
“I found these statistics at Wikipedia:”

http://www.findingdulcinea.com/news/education/2010/march/The-Top-10-Reasons-Students-Cannot-Cite-or-Rely-on-Wikipedia.html
“In March 2009, Irish student Shane Fitzgerald, who was conducting research on the Internet and globalization of information, posted a fake quotation on the Wikipedia article about recently deceased French composer Maurice Jarre. Due to the fact that the quote was not attributed to a reliable source, it was removed several times by editors, but Fitzgerald continued re-posting it until it was allowed to remain.
Fitzgerald was startled to learn that several major newspapers picked up the quote and published it in obituaries, confirming his suspicions of the questionable ways in which journalists use Web sites, and Wikipedia, as a reliable source. Fitzgerald e-mailed the newspapers letting them know that the quote was fabricated; he believes that otherwise, they might never have found out.” …

“Due to the fact that Wikipedia can be edited by anyone with an Internet connection, users can falsify entries. Though in many instances reviewers quickly delete this “vandalism,” occasionally false information can remain on Wikipedia for extended periods of time.” …

“1. It says so on Wikipedia.
Wikipedia says, “We do not expect you to trust us.” It adds that it is “not a primary source” and that “because some articles may contain errors,” you should “not use Wikipedia to make critical decisions.”

Furthermore, as Wikipedia notes in its “About” section, “Users should be aware that not all articles are of encyclopedic quality from the start: they may contain false or debatable information.” "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_reliable_source
“Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Wikipedia can be edited by anyone at any time. This means that any information it contains at any particular time may not be accurate and may indeed be vandalism. Biographies of living persons are especially vulnerable to this issue.”

Reliable source? Try again.
commented 2017-02-16 23:03:00 -0500
This is true, Jack

I found these statistics at Wikipedia:
“The Armed Forces are today funded by approximately $20.1 billion annually27 and are presently ranked 74th in size compared to the world’s other armed forces by number of total personnel, and 58th in terms of active personnel, standing at a strength of roughly 68,000, plus 27,000 reservists, 5000 Rangers, and 19,000 supplementary reserves, bringing the total force to approximately 119,000.”

The National Post in 2014 said something like this:

“The Canadian Forces is short hundreds of full-time members and thousands of reservists, due in part to an unexpected spike in the number of personnel hanging up their uniforms and difficulties attracting and training new recruits.

The shortfall, expected to last years thanks to recent cuts to military recruitment and training, threatens to undermine the Conservative government’s longstanding promise not to cut the size of the military despite billions of dollars in spending reductions since 2012.

The federal Conservative government has publicly promised to keep 68,000 full-time military members and 27,000 reservists in uniform, even as defense spending has fallen by about $5.5 billion since 2012.."

I don’t know how they determine how many are needed.

But your last sentence makes sense, Jack. I always believed we need only to protect ourselves, not other countries. Perhaps allies are a thing of the past?
commented 2017-02-16 21:16:42 -0500
Joe Boudreault,

Fair enough – there are people that want to join the military and possibly make a career out of it, but they are too few and far between.

Most kids finishing high school are looking to go to college/university and go for their dream – whatever it is and essentially start their life. The last thing they want is to join the military. If there was a draft, I think there would be a record amount of people trying to get to out of it in any which way that they can.

It’s just a different time – people have different views now about war and the military – especially if it’s deemed to be a needless war.

Many people also think that military budgets needs to be cut in half – not increased, but some people are warmongers and so the always push for more with the military. I am not referring to veterans though, I am talking about spending countless amounts of money on equipment that we don’t need and won’t use.

While Canada can fight when we need to – we are a peace keeping country.
commented 2017-02-16 21:12:30 -0500
Jackie, this newer alias of yours rings of your older ones, still lost in your make believe world. Really it is very funny, thank you for the laughs.
commented 2017-02-16 20:51:20 -0500
A few more thoughts, after reading these latest posts..

I believe Bravo Zulu got it right here. I see that he has summed up these things very well. Thanks, Bravo.

Military discipline is excellent for many reasons – I know, I went through it all in our RCAF.

Evelyn Cooper, I note your concerns. However, the military is indeed a conglomeration of social workers, psychiatrists, nutritionists, physical trainers, and trade skills educators, among other things. The common saying was that the military “own you lock stock and barrel” and they meant it but they are very good at it. And the military does do background checks here so no prisoners or deadbeats allowed etc! I can guarantee you that military service beats all bad habits out of you, or you are discharged. I saw this happen around me in my term of service. That was long ago so I don’t know what it is like now.

Keith Barnes – a good brief summing up too.

You seem to make a point, Jack Carter, but you forget that our men and women want to do this. Being drafted might go against that but I still think it would be good. I simply believe that our military needs to have its priorities straight: only go to war for our national defense. Strangely, most veterans go anyways; I admire that they don’t question the reason, they just do their duty. That is a tremendous thing to learn, Jack, and you cannot learn it better than in the armed forces, believe me. It has benefited me for life (Zulu would attest).

Space Moose – conscription is only bad if the war is unjust or not our war. Hindsight tells e that WW2 was our war. Afghanistan perhaps not… I love our veterans no matter where they were sent, though. They are our real heroes.
commented 2017-02-16 18:35:47 -0500
Hyacinth,

I didn’t miss anything. Are you 12 years old?
commented 2017-02-16 18:24:52 -0500
Conscription is one of the horrors of yesterday that should never be brought back.
commented 2017-02-16 18:09:58 -0500
You also missed the pun, but I thought you would LOL.
commented 2017-02-16 18:09:19 -0500
Jackie, stop proving you are a troll, it is getting boring.
commented 2017-02-16 17:40:00 -0500
Hyacinth,

I am not trying to come up with anything – it’s a fact. It’s the very reason why naked chicks holding guns is a thing in America. Someone is jerking off to that.
commented 2017-02-16 16:50:59 -0500
Jack Carter commented
“We live in Canada – not America, where people get a hard on over guns and the military. …..”

A hard on eh? That’s the best you can come up with?
Such a troll, head back to CBC.
LOL
commented 2017-02-16 15:46:15 -0500
We live in Canada – not America, where people get a hard on over guns and the military. Have some of you forgotten Americans who were against the war – came to Canada and were embraced here for what they believed in?

I know it kills some of you American wannabe’s, but Canada is a peace keeping country in many ways.

The last thing any young Canadian would want to do is join the military. Jail would almost be a preference, because they just don’t agree with the military mindset of past generations and certainly don’t think it would be a great career. They have their own goals and dreams.

Thankfully the government would never implement something as stupid as mandatory military service. If the military is your want in life – knock yourself out G.I. Joe.
commented 2017-02-16 15:14:55 -0500
A far more economical and faster method would be Bill Whittle’s “Three and a half days” program.
Many of us would love to have a government order to do this every year!!!
We would call it fun. How many would protest it as cruel and unusual punishment?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAOrT0OcHh0
commented 2017-02-16 14:39:47 -0500
A whole bunch of responses
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Keith Barnes

I agree

As well, I think the average smug and spoiled Canadian would also be surprised at how many would stay to make a careers out of it.

Cheers
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Evelyn Cooper

If you truly believe the officer is a only disciplinarian – then you truly have little understanding of the military.

This statement – "At most they are, and need to be disciplinarians. " actually made me laugh out loud.

You have no idea how many things an officer does. Or a good NCO for that matter.

I truly hope you never have to find out – however some day down the road I believe you or your descendants just might.

As for prisoners – I do not want to serve with a sexual deviant or a druggie or a murderer – the military is also a place for trust and honour. I know there are people who will laugh at that because of the cbc articles on how bad your service folks are – but trust me – they are tiny in number.

Cheers
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Yvon Monahan

Your distinction between men and women is one of the main reasons we have such difficulty today – all in I say.

If you want equality you EARN it – no snowflakes – lots of women are darned good fighter pilots and darned good ship drivers as well.

You have started a divide even before you have completed the argument.

2 years for both – or better – two for the ladies and three for the men.

Cheers
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Randy Jorundson

In all honesty I did not serve for the leadership of the country.

I did it for the man on my left and the woman on my right.

Cheers
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Hyacinth

Your “pussified” comment made me spit out my tea.

I think you have more steel in your spine than most modern men.

Some day I simply have to me you and yours.

Cheers
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Best to all