January 22, 2016

“No” to Energy East but “Yes” to western oil money? Hypocrite Coderre reacts to critics with anti-Christian smear

Brian LilleyArchive

After Montreal area mayors refused to allow the Energy East pipeline to run through the region, Montreal Mayor Denis Coderre smeared his critics by suggesting they were anti-science types that believe the Flintstones was a documentary.

So Coderre takes a shot at Christians with progressive shorthand for stupid, conservative Christians. What does that have to do with a disagreement about pipelines?

When conservatives like WildRose leader Brian Jean or Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall present rational arguments about why Canadians should favour pipelines, not fear them, all they get back are irrational arguments and name-calling.

Whether supporters of these parties have religion in common or not is debatable. It’s far more likely they’re small business owners struggling to stay afloat in a tough economy.

Coderre thumbs his nose at pipelines with oil from Alberta and Saskatchewan but Wildrose tweeted out that since 2007, Quebec has taken in almost $74B dollars in equalization while Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall said: "I trust Montreal area mayors will politely return their share of $10B in equalization supported by west."

Don't count on it Brad. Coderre tweets about how we all contribute to the collective effort and can have opposing views but disagree with him, and he’ll mock you with an anti-Christian smear. I expected better from him. Coderre should be ashamed of himself.

I'm not even a westerner but I'm fed up so we’ve launched a new campaign here at The Rebel to “CutThemOFF.ca.

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commented 2016-01-31 10:56:06 -0500
First of all, read this: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/energy-east-pipeline-water-1.3427222
There is a cause for concern (there are several million people living close to the planned pipeline) and Québec is not like Alberta (lived in Edmonton for 2 years), there are rivers and lakes everywhere. 3% of the world’s drinkable water is located in Québec (water, you know, the next oil). Also, the 80 something municipalities that are regrouped under the CMM to reject the project didn’t say they refused the project, they said they didn’t agree with the project as is, especially in respect to the environmental, social and economical impact of the project. In other words, if it leaks, who is responsible, who is going to pay, how are we going to mitigate the risk… That type of thing.

Secondly, about those 8 billions liters dumped in the St-Lawrence river. Well, there was an uproar in the population. They delayed the operation by several weeks. Made extra studies and finally ended up doing it with the promise that they would work on an alternative solution for the next cleanup (it will give them several years to work on it). Those 8 billion liters were not clean drinkable water, but they were not crude oil either. Its mostly toilet water and cloth washing water. It happened once in the last 3+ years. Not saying it was a great thing, but not doing it would have had worst consequences, and it was done at the best time possible (where the flow was strong and would disperse it the most). Victoria on the other hand, is flushing all of his dirty water in the ocean, all the time. There is a real trend toward improving our impact on the environment, but we are learning as we go like everybody else.

Thirdly, Québec is not very warm about oil because we thrive when the Canadian dollar is low, like right now. We sell tech, we sell resources and we sell transformed goods. When the dollar is low, we are more competitive. But when Alberta sells tons of oil, the dollar goes up and our business have a harder time. And then the rest of the country shit on us because we get transfers. See the irony here! When Alberta is in trouble, it’s the separatists fault. When the separatists are in trouble, its their fault. The ROC believes Québec is lazy, but we starts more companies per capita than anywhere else in the country. Can’t say we are not trying.

But the sad truth is that although oil is currently a necessary evil, we have to stop. The world is addicted on oil just like an addict is on crack. It will kill us, the science is there to prove it. Tremendous effort has been made in the past 10 years to develop new energy sources. During my time in Alberta, I was completely amaze to see that so little wind mills and solar farms had been built there. It is perfect for it. There is good wind and no clouds. Why would you want to burn coal. Edmonton must have the worst air quality in the country even tough there is very low population density (obviously, the coal plant are on the wrong side of the city). And poor St- Albert who gets double dosage with the refineries winds as well (there are refineries in Edmonton by the way, just not enough to process all the output).

Anway, Brian Lilley sounds like a demagog to me.
commented 2016-01-26 18:30:13 -0500
@darryl and @michael
I’ve done a little more research into this. Turns out that to break even on refining would take a really, really, really long time.
commented 2016-01-26 18:08:40 -0500
@darryl JOHN
So, in other words, pipelines are the better approach for attracting investors?
commented 2016-01-25 18:44:52 -0500
Now is the perfect time to promote energy self sufficiency. As much as I dislike Obama, under his presidency the U.S. has become a net exporter of energy. We can easily do the same here. With oil at such a low international price it makes sense now more than ever to transport our oil to refineries here and process it for our own use first, then sell the excess to the world markets. This is a program that the Conservatives can get behind and the Liberals should have trouble opposing. Imagine using our own oil at a Canadian dollar price, and not relying on conflict oil. We have the resources and the technology to do it, and what better time?
commented 2016-01-25 15:49:21 -0500
Since 2007 this bottom feeder and his “has not province” has raked in $73,941,000,000.00 transfer payment. He deliberately & willfully dumped 8 BILLION litres of RAW SEWAGE into the St. Lawrence River & HE"S worried about the environment/oil. Fking “hypocrite” doesn’t begin to describe THIS moron!! PLEASE return the total of $10BILLION in equalization payments you’ve received thus far from western provinces!!!
commented 2016-01-25 15:47:54 -0500
Most posters are to young to remember the thousands of jobs taken out of Winnipeg to service Montreal. If Alberta leaves please take Manitoba with you. Just because we have a Socialist vote buying government is not reason to leave us and ot include us. remember we do have oil as well just not as much as Alberta and Saskatchewan.
commented 2016-01-25 07:05:49 -0500
chad we do refine and upgrade as well. a refinery costs billions for a.small.to.med.size one. it wll take eight to ten years to engineer build.bring online to production. not.to.mention very small.profit margins..the old.pc.gov has one.just starting up.in edmonton. Not to.mention our present pro incial.gov has no clue and hates the energy industry. you would.not even know we have an energy. minister total. silence from her complete incompetence on her part. not one dime will be spent in alberta again till notley and her ship of energy industry hating fools leave alberta.
commented 2016-01-25 01:06:04 -0500
Yeah Coderre we are so stupid, yet we have to take care of you helpless infant lefties. If you are so smart then why do you need us? Now go dump more raw sewage.
commented 2016-01-25 00:39:34 -0500
Dieter… Read your post a little while back and gave it some thought… Why would we want to trade one dictatorship in Canada for another in the states… However Alberta would be just fine as a democratic republic… We would have to secede to ourselves and then become an independent country which actually wouldn’t be bad… There would be some growing pains but it is absolutely doable.!!
commented 2016-01-24 16:01:12 -0500
Coderre is a bandit.
commented 2016-01-24 15:06:29 -0500
The Only Evidence I have of Fred Flintstone is from the Pyramids and from the Herodian build of the Temple walls in Jerusalem. With far less they did far more than anything Coderre will ever do, and we will remember them but we wont remember him.
commented 2016-01-24 15:04:05 -0500
Here is a slogan. Don’t be a Rube, support the Tube.
commented 2016-01-24 15:02:50 -0500
So, let a Christian do the math. The math Coderre is to simple to figure out. he’d be walking if it wasn’t for Oil, and he would be in the nude because everything he is wearing was made or had Oil involved in its travel to him. Even the Plastic money he used to pay for it. made from Oil. What a Rube. Just support the Tube will you.
commented 2016-01-24 14:04:23 -0500
Time for the Montreal mafia to step up, and do their job! Someone needs to be eliminated! But then I guess it’s the criminal in him, that would stop you from making the hit! I’m sure he has allowed the mafia to thrive in Montreal, thus the reason, you stay there!
commented 2016-01-24 13:43:43 -0500
Time for a new political party in Alberta. Separate, and take back our freedom and future.
commented 2016-01-24 13:41:32 -0500
commented 2016-01-24 12:34:09 -0500
Sturgeon aside, have companies shown interest in building refineries? What is the cost to build needed refineries? Would Alberta accrue long-term profit?

A non-Canadian born co-worker was asking why we don’t refine Albertan oil. I’ve never looked into the cost.
commented 2016-01-24 10:14:54 -0500
Rod Hailey commented – "PM Selfies’ rule is shaping up to be the most divisive in history…Western separatism is sure to rise again… "

Considering Selfie boy was handled by Obama operatives and his policy design mirrors what oozes from the oval office, yeah, he’s shaping up to be a divisive force.

Alberta has bigger problems on its plate right now with a petro-hostile government in Edmonton, let alone the oil-phobia in Ottawa, I really hope Alberta pulls out of confederation -actually the 3 western provinces would be far better off divorced from Ottawa after the domestic abuse they have suffered.
commented 2016-01-24 09:42:55 -0500
Coderre the brown blob , Quebec’s taxpayers in the end , receive all in all when all the transfers are calculated, including the amount of underpaid unemployment payments a total of 16 billions from Ottawa, this is up and above all the amount that Quebec sends to Ottawa , like any other socialist liberal Coderre makes a good clown act, but for the facts , economy not his strong suit .
commented 2016-01-24 03:05:23 -0500
Here is a better idea than Alberta leaving. How about restarting the movement to get Quebec to leave?
commented 2016-01-24 02:12:50 -0500
I agree with all, But there is one thing everyone is forgetting. We are not land locked as bad as everyone thinks.

Lets say we have a strong provincial leader(not the NDP).

We could start the talks again with Montana and cross into the states just south of Sweet Grass or even Taber.

Now we are in the States, from there we can hit the US pipeline corridor that leaves from Montana and heads straight to the Pacific Ocean. This Corridor is owned by the Federal Government and they would love it. Plus Montana would love to have the infrastructure built in their State, because it creates JOBS and a new TAX Revenue .
commented 2016-01-24 02:12:50 -0500
I agree with all, But there is one thing everyone is forgetting. We are not land locked as bad as everyone thinks.

Lets say we have a strong provincial leader(not the NDP).

We could start the talks again with Montana and cross into the states just south of Sweet Grass or even Taber.

Now we are in the States, from there we can hit the US pipeline corridor that leaves from Montana and heads straight to the Pacific Ocean. This Corridor is owned by the Federal Government and they would love it. Plus Montana would love to have the infrastructure built in their State, because it creates JOBS and a new TAX Revenue .
commented 2016-01-23 23:36:20 -0500

How the Alberta managed while being land-locked? Easily done.

Make Alberta independent. That means, yes, overthrowing the provincial government and send Notley packing. Put her and the entire NDP caucus in little yellow school buses and send them to the Manitoba border. Drop them off and tell them to never come back. Once that is done, begin a process to petition for annexation by the US. Impossible? So you say. Actually, it’s very easy and it has been done before. Given Alberta’s enormous resource wealth, not to mention the sympathy that will be garnered from Saskatchewan, northern Manitoba, and the interior of BC, the US will find with Western Canadian annexation an extraordinary opportunity to seize a vast piece of North America all the way to the Arctic. And what’s JT going to do? Go to the UN and take selfies of his magnificence? Canada has no armed forces and no means to stop the coming tide of freedom. I have been on contact, for a number of years, with many in the US who are interested in ushering in a greater American nation in North America. I assure all that that a process is in the works that will see this come to pass. Maybe before the end of this decade, or by the end of the next, it’s coming. And there is no stopping American Manifest Destiny and the victory of freedom.
commented 2016-01-23 21:37:43 -0500
Time for the west to say Bon Voyage to this cluster of idiots.
commented 2016-01-23 21:20:52 -0500
If you want to talk about a “fairy tale” much like Rudysrd Kipling’s imaginative “Just So Stories”, how about, to begin with, at first “nothing” exploded, then after a supposed 11 billion years or so some rock on the earth happened to turn into the first single-celled living organism (that’s called spontaneous generation), after another 3-4 supposed billion years somehow dinosaurs emerged, after another million years or so even “useful idiots” emerged ………..you get the drift.
commented 2016-01-23 20:51:00 -0500
I will vote for ANY candidate who agrees to campaign on eliminating equalization payments . Alberta has lost 300 Billion dollars in the past 35 years to a country of judgmental ingrates . Money doesn’t seem to work on these eastern aholes so lets stop that immediately and start looking after ourselves first.
commented 2016-01-23 20:07:01 -0500
Forget building a pipeline to the east. Build one to Churchil, Manitoba, where there is a port onto the Hudson Bay. Saskatchewan would be all for it, and Manitoba will love the increased traffic in Churchil.
commented 2016-01-23 19:51:51 -0500
I bet if there suddenly becomes a way for Montreal to profit by way of royalties or carriage fees. all opposition will disappear. Maybe the mayor can figure out how get some those $24,999.00 no tell contracts to soften his environmental concerns. Then again maybe Canada Steamship ( who brings most of the Saudi crude up the St.Lawrence ) being a good Liberal company, is more in tune with Coddierre`s sensibilities.
commented 2016-01-23 19:40:45 -0500
If the Energy East pipeline was a Liberal government project that ensured Quebec unions and companies would get a vast amount of the work (read money), then Coderre would be all over it. But, because it is a private venture where he has no control and therefore no way to line his pockets and bank accounts, he wants no part of it. And to continue his childish game, if he can’t get some candy then nobody does.
commented 2016-01-23 16:33:37 -0500
I, too, would like to see Alberta leave Canada, but the issue of being land locked has to be addressed first. Just how do we get out oil to market if while in Canada it seems impossible to get out oil to market, how could we expect to get it to market isolated from the ocean?