March 14, 2018

“Outsider” Doug Ford saved “elitist” PC Party from itself

David MenziesMission Specialist

 

Considering the Wynne Liberals’ cratering popularity, the PCs could paint a mailbox blue, proclaim it leader, and coast to victory.

Yet, when outsider Doug Ford won a nail-biter of a leadership race last Saturday, the worst fears of the PC party elite came to fruition.

At one point, it seemed like the fix was in when the party embraced an electronic balloting system that proved to be nothing short of a fiasco.

But in the final analysis and despite the best laid plans by the elitists, Ford did prevail by the slimmest of margins.

In the ultimate irony, and whether the party recognizes it or not, Doug Ford is saving the PC Party from itself.

Had either establishment candidate won, many would have abandoned the PCs due to the perception or the reality that Doug was cheated out of the leadership.

And that might have meant that for the fifteenth time in fifteen years, the PCs would have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory yet again.

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commented 2018-03-16 14:29:26 -0400
Drew,

We are not talking about Trudeau – we are talking about Doug Ford. Can your brain focus on one person without you having the need to bring up Trudeau or Obama as a way to deflect from Doug Ford’s problems?
commented 2018-03-16 14:25:29 -0400
Drew Wakariuk,

The media was only rightfully covering the Ford Nation circus of lies and oh ya – crack and pussy eating.
commented 2018-03-16 10:30:46 -0400
“Drew Wakariuk commented 2018-03-16 01:05:04 -0400
Andrew you do realize actually talking to the people you want to represent is important right? "

Sure, but in a province of 15 million, it’s not practical for the premier to meet individually, nor is it an efficient use of time. That’s what your MPP is for. Who is he actually talking to? There are more left-wingers (Lib + NDP) than right wingers in Ontario – is he listening to everyone, or just his core constituents?

What happens when it comes time to make unpopular decisions? When he talks about “efficiency” he might (it’s unclear) mean “austerity”, which is deeply unpopular – is he going to be listening to the people when they start consolidating less-than-full schools to save heating costs? You can talk about tax cuts making up for it, but historically income tax cuts are politically silent – there was a significant income tax cut to offset the loss of Ontario-specific PST exemptions in 2010, but nobody remembers that one.

“Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 2018-03-16 09:09:15 -0400
Remember who is responsible for creating such debt and driving business’ out of the province.
Ontario’s debt clock
”http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-debtclocks/ontario/ontario-s-debt/">http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-debtclocks/ontario/ontario-s-debt/ "

Business isn’t being driven out. There has been some restructuring, obviously, but the rest are mostly due to uneven news coverage and selective hearing. We all heard about the soup plant closing, but nobody remembers that announcement a year or so ago when GM announced their 700 job autonomous vehicle research centre. Who is filling all those new office blocks and R+D centres in London, KW. and the GTA? . Ontario’s job numbers are actually very impressive when evaluated objectively.

And what, pray tell, are Doug’s plans to fix the debt? I summed it up in an earlier post – mix in the structural deficit, declining transfers, and promised tax cuts, and he’s got about a 15-20 billion dollar gap between revenue and expenditures to fill, orders of magnitude larger than can be waved away with platitudes, or even the small cuts that mostly slip under the radar.

“Drew Wakariuk commented 2018-03-16 01:01:03 -0400
Andrew Stephenson i would be vague as well, anything he says will be attacked, save it for the campaign. "
If his platform is so great, why is he afraid of it being “attacked”? Good policy should be easily defensible.
commented 2018-03-16 01:05:04 -0400
Andrew you do realize actually talking to the people you want to represent is important right? Oh sorry that means nothing to left wing socialist wanabe commies, they think they RULE over the people.
commented 2018-03-16 01:04:00 -0400
Bob Rock you are the one blaming Rob Ford for the media circus, that was not his doing, it was the MEDIAS!!!
commented 2018-03-16 01:03:27 -0400
Bob Rock no i am none of those things , yo are just a bigoted idiot. Please tell me one interview Justin has ever done good at. NAME ONE! LMAO!
commented 2018-03-16 01:01:58 -0400
Bob Rock he does give answers when the time is right, and sorry but UMMM ERRR is not an answer like Justin thinks. Now go be a good drone.
commented 2018-03-16 01:01:03 -0400
Andrew Stephenson i would be vague as well, anything he says will be attacked, save it for the campaign. And Justin brags about his damn socks, now spare me your double standard.
commented 2018-03-15 23:36:04 -0400
Andrew Stephenson commented 41 mins ago

“I mean, if you think him bragging about his door-knocking skills is somehow an answer to a question about economic strategy, sure, he did great”.

LMAO

They DO think that – that’s the problem. Doug never gives a real answer and that’s cool with Tammie, Liza, Drew and other sheep here.
commented 2018-03-15 23:31:51 -0400
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt,

Is it possible for you to just focus on ONE person without the whataboutisms? Can you talk about the bad things about Ford without bringing up Trudeau or Obama?
commented 2018-03-15 22:52:10 -0400
“Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 2018-03-15 22:05:36 -0400
Sideshow Bob, the leftist interviewer was looking to trip him up and pounce; he steered the interview just fine”

I mean, if you think him bragging about his door-knocking skills is somehow an answer to a question about economic strategy, sure, he did great.

“Henry Reardon commented 2018-03-15 13:48:08 -0400
The first thing Doug Ford should do – or maybe the first thing he should do after being elected Premier – is to rename his party so that the “Progressive” part is deleted.”

“Ontario PCs are always going to be progressive”. – Doug Ford.

Another interesting one.
’ Asked whether he believes human activity is causing climate change, Ford said: "Absolutely, to a certain degree. I’m not a denier. " ’ http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/doug-ford-metro-morning-1.4573467
commented 2018-03-15 22:41:58 -0400
“Drew Wakariuk commented 2018-03-15 01:47:53 -0400
Andrew Stephenson you are blind to the huge amount of money that is wasted and how inefficient the government is. "

It’s not just me, Doug himself has been pretty vague about it, I don’t think he knows either. There’s probably some redundant administrative overhead, but 15 billion worth? Probably not. Don’t forget he just promised not to lay anyone off. His big idea is to look at amalgamating school boards, a move which has historically not saved much money and has, in a few cases, resulted in ungovernable behemoths like the TDSB. The other is ’procurement", without specifying what that means. Ontario already tenders and contracts a lot of its central operations.

It’s worth pointing out that Ontario has the second-lowest per-capita spending in Canada, and the lowest per-capita taxation. How much “waste” is there?

I’ll just leave with a brief illustration of the problem. Ford has promised about 8 or 10b in tax cuts. There’s about 8 or 10b in gross debt being added annually. That’s a 16b gap right off the bat. Ontario is a “have” again, and won’t receive equalization next year, another billion gone. Meanwhile, the population of seniors is increasing nearly 10% a year, it’s a good year if you can keep health cost inflation to 5%, this is demographic and not unique to Ontario. That’s ~20b you need to find. Good luck.
“Drew Wakariuk commented 2018-03-15 01:52:53 -0400
Andrew they would have another 10 billion or more to spend if they had no debt. But you and the left like making bankers rich. "

FYI, Ontario’s debt is mostly held by institutional investors, which are themselves mostly pension and mutual funds. Banks lend out very little of their own money – what they lend you, is itself borrowed, they take some spread but that’s it. Government debt does not have this middleman- they pay the bondholders directly, and the rate is directly stated and fixed to maturity.

“liza rosie commented 2018-03-15 16:21:18 -0400

Great (mis titled) interview with Rob, being asked to explain how he is going to find efficiencies. Basically you look everywhere to find efficiencies."

Ironically, Rob never did find those “efficiencies”. He even hired some high priced consultants, who came to the same conclusion.There were service cuts and some deferrals, but neither is truly an “efficiency”.

His policies here are very vague indeed. Apparently the act of electing Doug Ford suddenly fixes everything that’s wrong with the economy. At least, that’s the impression I’m getting off the fan club.
commented 2018-03-15 22:05:36 -0400
Sideshow Bob, the leftist interviewer was looking to trip him up and pounce; he steered the interview just fine!

For confirmation of Trudeau’s horrible interviews, with his nonsensical ad libbing & uhms, aahs, umm, and word salad, I suggest you visit YouTube.
commented 2018-03-15 21:24:26 -0400
Drew Wakariuk,

You thought Ford did well in that interview?

LOL.

Well either you are completely delusional or you have zero standards and are more than happy to hear a blowhard dodge, deflect and give talking points with no substance. Doug Ford was a complete mess here. Denying it, makes you stupid.

Actually it makes sense, since you and others here do the same thing – deflect, dodge and say stupid shit with no substance.
commented 2018-03-15 19:10:40 -0400
I guess its really true, everything conservatives think is a good idea, the left think is a bad idea. Everything they hate we love and visa versa. We sure are a nation divided. I hope when they have the opportunity of living in a functioning economy and a healthy happy society because of it, that they will see some benefit and want to keep that momentum going. Not the political left of course, they have an agenda that is more to do with power than anything else, but maybe the average guy might and then we could be a more cohesive people. All this diversity is too darn divisive.
Diversity of food is great
Diversity of values not so much.
commented 2018-03-15 18:06:52 -0400
Bob Rock after you admire Justin then you can admire Climate Barbie for her intelligent comments LMAO! People who live in glass houses.
commented 2018-03-15 18:00:59 -0400
Bob Rock i did , he did well, you are just a zealot.
commented 2018-03-15 17:58:09 -0400
Brian Lilley had the interview uploaded on his page yesterday. I listened to it and thought Doug handled himself well…the lefty interviewing him was not that impressive… I could hear her smug smiles coming through the airwaves!
commented 2018-03-15 17:27:16 -0400
James MacMaster said in part, " I’d certainly invite him for dinner; and he’s the type of guy who would show up with a two-four AND the steaks."

I think he would also remember to bring a bone for the dog!
commented 2018-03-15 16:31:24 -0400
“We’ll see who’s the meathead, I suppose a little time will tell.”

Time has already told, LISA. But some of my best friends are meatheads. I’d certainly invite him for dinner; and he’s the type of guy who would show up with a two-four AND the steaks.
commented 2018-03-15 16:23:46 -0400
Make that Doug, Rob probably gets a chuckle out of that.

We’ll see who’s the meathead, I suppose a little time will tell. If that means you wouldn’t invite him over to dinner, who cares.
commented 2018-03-15 16:21:18 -0400
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hxSxrnWIHo

Great (mis titled) interview with Rob, being asked to explain how he is going to find efficiencies. Basically you look everywhere to find efficiencies. That is the definition of finding efficiencies. Key words. “bloated government”. It shouldn’t be that hard to find efficiencies.
Great example of NOT doing things the same stupid way the last losers in there did. This liberal interviewer is asking very skewed questions. She probably is one of Wynne’s girls and that is what made this such a good interview. Showed Doug in a very good light. Liberals live in an alternative reality.
…What he said about sex ed was brilliant! I think he addressed all questions very rationally.
commented 2018-03-15 16:20:10 -0400
Ford is a meathead. And he’s certainly not The Great Hope his supporters think he is.

But Wynne, along with her predecessor, is a snake – and the NDP propped up those snakes on the disastrous Green Energy Act AND while they had a minority government.

So the meathead won’t look too bad for a lot of people.