June 01, 2015

#StopC51 speaker says bill will create "a modern day Gestapo"

Rebel Staff

An estimated crowd of 500 people gathered outside the Ontario legislature in Toronto on Saturday to protest the Harper government's proposed bill C51 anti-terror legislation.

One of the speakers, lawyer Rocco Galati, told the crowd:

What this legislation creates — and make no mistake about it — is a modern day Gestapo, no exaggeration. It chills, censors, and criminalizes free speech, free association, and constitutional rights of assembly. This legislation is not new, German and Italian versions were passed in the 1930s in Europe and they looked very much like C-51."

According to a report at the left leaning National Observer, other speakers included "anti-tar sands activist Heather Milton-Lightening of the Pasqua First Nation, Josephine Grey, founder of Low Income Families Together, and Andrew Cash, the New Democratic Party (NDP) MP for Davenport." (...)

Galati’s concerns over these proposed changes were echoed by Mark Taliano at GlobalResearch.ca. He cited U.S. author Naomi Wolf who he said labelled Bill C-51 a ‘fascist shift’ in Canadian politics akin to the American Patriot Act passed weeks after 9/11. He said it uses the threat of Islamic State terrorism to implement a range of restrictive measures, such as muzzling the press, infiltrating citizens’ groups, and spying on the public, among others.


The Rebel's video of confused protesters at a previous #StopC51 rally went viral back in March.

(Photo: TheRebel.media, March 15, 2015)


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commented 2015-06-15 01:38:17 -0400
Those who oppose bill C51 are either uninformed – to put it mildly – and/or have nefarious intentions. For the most part, I believe, the ‘anti C51’ crowd is just that: ignorant masses of socialists, who suffer from the ‘Harper Derangement Syndrome’.

I personally ignore the moaning over everything of the above described ‘cafe-latte sipping’ socialists living downtown Toronto. God bless them! They are a daily source of free entertainment.
commented 2015-06-11 16:12:45 -0400
Just to put this in perspective. These are the same buffoons who still believe in man made global warming. When the occupy types speak, I tune out.
commented 2015-06-10 23:21:33 -0400
I agree completely. It is planed.
I’m not blood thirsty yet but my blood boils when I read the news today with the gay rights crowed taunting and our law courts are a bad joke covered by excuses now as to why nothing can be done about repeat crime. They just handed over our streets to the criminals to take what they please.
Someday they will come to confiscate my guns because I just might shoot back in order to protect myself. Does that mean the law is a whore for criminals? You tell me.
China is looking better every day and if ISIS terrorists are brought to heal I might consider middle east after.
Nay, nay says I.
commented 2015-06-08 09:26:12 -0400
It’s those who feel that THEY will be targeted…‘eco-terrorists’…who feel that destroying infrastructure….or bringing trains, cars and people to a halt is NOT ‘terrorism"…but ’activism"…who are protesting…..and they “doth protest too much”…. I think that the wording should NOT have been changed to protect ’eco-terrorists’…or those who believe that blowing up a pipeline is “Okay”, as long as it’s in a ‘good cause’. That’s who the NDP support.
commented 2015-06-07 22:10:07 -0400
Jason – The slow erosion of values IS terrorism in my view. It’s planned and organized. No natural decay. Canada is much more mean-spirited than it was even twenty years ago. Blood thirsty.
commented 2015-06-04 11:43:01 -0400
I agree Joan, and think terrorism is a huge issue, but the slower destruction of Canadian values I think is the real threat. Muslims and leftists ARE eroding our free speech and our safegaurds. I mean how many Muslims have been hauled before human rights tribunals for hate crimes?
commented 2015-06-04 09:10:17 -0400
I feel depressed by Canadians who continue to claim we have no terrorism problem. Terrorism isn’t just big bombing events. It’s the chill on free speech. It’s neighbourhood intimidation. It’s lawfare. It’s huge civil court claims. It’s greedy lawyers, corrupted judges, systemic corruption of doctors and judges who apply law to favour criminals and exploit its victims. Like in Rotherham, it’s thus sort of thing: http://lauriescottmpp.com/node/430. These kids deserve a chance to survive.
commented 2015-06-03 19:39:55 -0400
What are the odds that at least 50% of this crowd is muslim and/or atheist? The other 50% is probably muslim and/or atheist inspired or just confused and gullible. People are not thinking straight when our country has had a threat against it by a dangerous and vicious enemy, isis and other islamic groups who want nothing more than to take out our country and our government with sharia law and violence. Look to the east. There’s your answer as to what will be coming our way if these war mongerers get their way. Canada needs protection against terrorism and a way to deal swiftly with it. Canada shouldn’t have to go through a lengthy court system with idiot judges who might say “No release the terrorist who threatened to blow up the airport. He’s a misunderstood Canadian muslim and our friend.” Just like these idiots did with other known terrorists who are now walking around freely in our country.
commented 2015-06-03 18:16:13 -0400
Ah, yes, Rick, exactly! I wish leadership, particulary the Obamas, would take to heart what Martin Luthor King said. Instead they want to divide the nation.

And Liza, thanks for your comment. I will take a closer look.
commented 2015-06-03 13:23:07 -0400
Jason said: “In general I wish we can stop relating to people by their sexual fashions.” Good comment. Kind of like Martin Luthor King; “Judge people not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character”.
commented 2015-06-03 09:53:24 -0400
Joan your other comments on the education debate in Ontario. Parents who are suspicious can home school or send to a religious school of choice which are springing up.
commented 2015-06-03 09:50:35 -0400
Joan that was Zimbabwe. Thirty-35 years later the same anti-terrorist laws are still used by the dictator to oppress all and sundry. The Canadian government thought it was great when the monster took over. Mulroney even paid a visit and toasted and hugged the dictator. Lesson for today. Trust no government. Trust no leader. Down with the bill.
commented 2015-06-03 02:34:18 -0400
Our friend, Pat Condell, on what Canada can expect if we keep denying we have a terrorist problem: http://youtu.be/QolNWwM4uS4
commented 2015-06-03 00:34:05 -0400
Jason, I was responding to your claim that the CRA would audit any church coincident with the pastor discussing gay marriage. I know you were using a bit of hyperbole for effect, but initially, I thought your example meant a pastor who promoted gay marriage. That was why I asked if you thought the CPC was homophobic. But of course you meant the CRA would audit a church coincident with a pastor preaching condemnation of gay marriage.

The problem with that isn’t that the CRA or CPC want to violate anyone’s free speech rights but that gay marriage is legal in Canada. So preaching condemnation of gay marriage (or refusing the sacrament to gay couples) may be understood by some gay activists as promoting violations of law. And yeah, that might get you in trouble. Not audited, I wouldn’t think, but maybe sued and/or charitable status revoked if some gay activists take issue with it and pursue a legal judgement.

I disagree that Ontario is pushing a gay education agenda. Just because the premier is openly gay doesn’t mean all MPPs, teachers and boards are. The curriculum is designed to protect children – all children, not just sheltered children but also children whose parents pimp them for drug money or pull them out of school to marry them off at age 9 – from the abuses that currently kill far too many.

It doesn’t teach children to consent to sex; it teaches them they can say no to abuse. It doesn’t encourage anal sex; it specifically describes it as risky and advises abstinence. It teaches such skills so kids whose coaches tell them sodomy is the price for hockey success know better. So they can protect themselves and say no. So kids whose folks abuse them can tell someone and get help instead of falling into such despair that they kill themselves as far too many do, every year.

Most teachers are parents too. They don’t want to hurt children. Much of the narrative around the sex-ed curriculum was false based on propaganda, much written in Arabic, that was circulated among parents and online. It told outright blatant lies about the curriculum that exploited the premier’s sexual orientation to suggest the sex-ed curriculum pushes a gay agenda. It doesn’t.
commented 2015-06-03 00:09:14 -0400
Ron Zager – what country was that?
commented 2015-06-02 20:58:13 -0400
Jason B you said, “They will be able to access our tax records. Next they will targeting conservative groups via revenue Canada.” and “Yeah my guess is one day your pastor talks about gay marriage and the day your church gets an audit”

No content of any phone call is taken without a court order. Information about numbers called can be easily obtained already. It is about connections and only about content when there are patterns identified, and then, ONLY if the request goes before a judge first. The same with tax info, there is no way it can be taken and used without proper cause and court overseeing.

Read the actual Bill instead of others interpretation. There is no way the C-51 can be abused the way you are suggesting. If you have read the bill then you have a very creative interpretation of it.
commented 2015-06-02 18:31:38 -0400
Somehow we got into this weird conversation about homophobia Joan. I think certain provincial governments thru their Education Ministries are pushing it. I didn’t say the CPc was. I really don’t care what Baird does in his free time. In general I wish we can stop relating to people by their sexual fashions.

commented 2015-06-02 18:01:49 -0400
Joan I am not surprised at what you said about the United Church.
I agree the terrorist threat is not going away. However ISIS and their helpers are going to be confined to the Middle East for a long time as they consolidate their power and acquire new territory. We might have more terrorist acts here. But I doubt we will be able to prevent them from happening with the proposed bill. I have lived in a country where the terrorists came to power then used the anti-terrorists laws against the entire population. I think we should just hang on here.
commented 2015-06-02 17:59:31 -0400
Jason, how does the CPC shove it down your throat?
commented 2015-06-02 17:55:02 -0400
Jason – High River was not perpetrated on the direction of the Conservative government but by corrupt administrative rogues.

I do not believe our government agents are unaware of how much police at all levels simply ignore Conservative government direction in order to enforce the agenda of enemies of democracy.

I have considerable experience with violations of privacy. My observation is that it is perpetrated by corrupt administrators acting independently of the law. That is extremely alarming. But according to my MP, a Conservative, the government is well aware of that problem. It has been difficult to fix because of how massive the problem is, involving civil service agents protected by privacy law administered by civil service agents. I hope Bill C-51 might help us break that crime cabal.

Ideological cleansing is the first front of revolution. Our society has seen considerable thought intimidation and engineering by the left over the past twenty years. It is next to impossible to get tenure at a university if you don’t comply with MSA BDS ideology, for example. If you don’t eshew original thought for leftist post modern social relativism.

The corruption in policing in Canada is similar to the corruption in policing all over the world. Like perhaps most blatantly in Rotherham where police ignored the law and fabricated evidence in direct violation of law to avoid the leftist pro-Islamist political sanctions of islamophobe labelling. They went pretty far with it too, allowing countless British girls to be victimized.

In Ontario, recent data show proceeds of crime from sex slave trafficking of underaged girls (95% of whom are Canadian-born) exceed proceeds of crime from drugs and arms sales.

Bruce Bauer, in While Europe Slept, described similar misuse of policing by ideological cleansing efforts to persecute gay people in Norway over ten years ago. He said it is very organized. An Islamist gang will gay bash – physically assault – a gay person, but when the victim reports it to police, police have already heard of the incident as one of the provocation of Muslims, a hate crime perpetrated by the openly gay individual living in a Muslim community. Even though the law protects gay people from assault, police ignore that fact and enforce shariah by blaming the victim.

That pattern has happened here too.

Blame the gun owners forced from their homes by floods.

Blame anyone whose ideas offend the left and/or proponents of shariah. Ignore that the victims are repeatedly assaulted, deatth threatened, cleansed from their homes, robbed, socially marginalized and reviled, etc., and support the globally-organized social engineering campaign that is behind the Ideological cleansing, even though it blatantly violates our legislation.

The Conservative Party of Canada is not the enemy we must defeat. Our enemy is the very organized leftist propaganda machine that lies that shariah poses a right-wing threat. That machine has corrupted policing and convinced authorities it is okay to ignore legislation, to arbitrarily and for partisan reasons alone violate privacy rights of individuals and organizations whose ideas the administrators of the corruption think pose a threat not to the safety of Canadians but to the interests of globally-organized leftist terrorist organization.
commented 2015-06-02 17:22:50 -0400
No one is scared of gays. Just some of us just wish that it wasn’t shoved down our throats. We don’t want the government persecuting us because of our beliefs. One day, god forbid, the NDP or liberals may be in charge and they will abuse power.
commented 2015-06-02 17:19:44 -0400
Ron, some in the United Church of Canada have some pretty radical pro-shariah ideas. I remember when they gave sanctuary to a Muslim man and paid for all his long distance calls to his country of origin even though his family was well off and at the same time, they refused santuary to Christians.

I do not think it amiss if CRA looks at the books of some churches.
commented 2015-06-02 17:17:15 -0400
If sun news didn’t exist we would not have known about High River. Now there is no media to hold the RCMP to account. Do we want to give more power to a corrupt organization that has no accountability?
commented 2015-06-02 17:16:02 -0400
Jason – Are you saying you think the Conservative Party that John Baird belongs to is homophobic?
commented 2015-06-02 17:14:23 -0400
Ron, whatever intelligence the government is relying on now won’t magically change with any change of government in October. Whoever may be elected will take the exact same measures, make no mistake. If Mulcair/Trudeau wins, they will simply rationalize it as their idea. Maybe they will even loosen some of the safe guards. The terrorist threat isn’t going away.
commented 2015-06-02 17:06:17 -0400
Ian Stephens … Sigh. Again, I didn’t call you hysterical. I said your extreme narrative examples of where you imagine Bill C-51 will lead are hysterical spin. As they are.

Lighten up. Soon they’ll be able to surveil our thoughts is hyperbole … although there has long been talk of electrical mapping of the human brain. But soon? A relative estimate.

If you don’t think we are all under surveillance, you haven’t been paying attention.
commented 2015-06-02 15:55:14 -0400
Jason that will happen. The CRA could revoke the charitable status if they find anything amiss in the record keeping. I have heard of a few churches who are opting out of the charitable status by no longer issuing tax receipts in anticipation of just that happening.
commented 2015-06-02 15:53:40 -0400
Ron it is funny how long it takes for people to express their alarm. I recall being against the hst at least 1 year before the public got outraged about it. Bill c51 is getting protest from the right but its already too late.
commented 2015-06-02 15:51:04 -0400
I would love to see Ezra and Brian’s opinion on this. Since they have been silent many I talk to assume they support it.