April 29, 2016

From Neocons to Outcasts: The 14 different kinds of conservatives on “the Right”

Gavin McInnesArchive

Lazy liberals talk about "the right wing" as if conservatives are a unified block.


Obviously that isn't true, but this video helps explain the divisions and diversity within the Right.

Along with familiar categories (alt-right, neocon) I've invented some of my own, like Broadcast Patriot and Factual Feminist.

Where do you fit in?

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commented 2016-05-02 08:06:17 -0400
None of these groups are Canadian. Where is the Canadian content? Seems we have so-cons and fiscal conservatives and that is about it.
commented 2016-05-02 04:47:32 -0400
Great episode.
Comedy, sarcasm, oratory, education.
I hope you can keep this level up, and keep above a lot of the excessive filler that others put out on the interwebs.

Dale Warren,
Insightful points in both of your posts.
Just look at how the Ontario Liberals are destroying their province, for example, by shoving uneconomic windmills down everybody’s throats simply out of ideology.

Thanks for the link.

commented 2016-05-01 22:31:18 -0400
Wrong John . . . the left are haters . . . they hate freedom of speech, they hate individual freedoms and prefer the collective. The Liberals as a middle of the road party left that realm in the 70s. Today they are the party of Marx. Liberals and the NDP try to out-crazy each other.
The Progressive Conservatives became indistinguishable from the Lieberals in the 80s. Mullloney was just another Keybec Politician . . . a “Progressive”! Mussolini considered himself a Progressive as does ole Hillary.
The book, The authoritarian personality, authored by T.W. Adorno et al. in 1950, has been massively popular among psychologists. It claims that a set of ideas that were popular in the “Progressive”-dominated America of the prewar era were “authoritarian”. Leftist regimes always are authoritarian so that claim was not a big problem. What was quite amazing however is that Adorno et al. identified such ideas as “conservative”. They were in fact simply popular ideas of the day but ones that had been most heavily promoted by the Left right up until the then-recent WWII.
commented 2016-05-01 19:02:31 -0400
Where does Dinesh D’Sousa fit into your ‘chart’?
I’d love to see the Rebel carry his films “America where would the world be without her” and “Hillary’s America” not to mention his other film about Obama…he may be focused on the USA but would like to hear Gavin’s view about him…He was put in prison for a crime that the left commits without punishment…

Hillary’s America is an analysis who “who are these Democrats”?

commented 2016-05-01 14:18:42 -0400
It sounds to me Elder that you are confusing different levels of government.
commented 2016-05-01 14:18:00 -0400
I am a moderate conservative supporter if such a party can gain seats federally. Many on here refer to such people as CINOs but there is nothing wrong with moderation. On here, it is viewed as a bad thing.
commented 2016-05-01 14:16:53 -0400
I am talking about the old federal Progressive Conservative party of Canada. The new Progressive Canadian party has that. I am glad there can be a centralist party in Canada. Hopefully, Canadians realize this.
commented 2016-05-01 13:11:04 -0400
- – - – John Siciliano commented – " You can be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. We had that in the old PC party"

BS!!! You talk like someone who never attended a PC riding Assn. meeting where officers were appointed by unelected execs.

Don’t eat that Elmer.
commented 2016-05-01 11:49:25 -0400
Also Dale Warren you fail to realize that the NDP and Liberals just like the Conservatives will jockey with each other to fight for the mainstream power prize.

I only think in terms of mainstream versus anti-mainstream.

You equate the left as haters when the right equally hate but now they hate migrants when they have always hated the poor. To me, as a radical centrist, I feel that the Soviet Union was a failure, but the new left is merely what the old centre was in the 1970’s. As for Reagan, he was the corporations best friend. He started the decline. I do not mind tax cuts as long as they are used properly but they do not solve everything.

I want a mixed economy with a lot more protectionism and less free trade which we were sold too quickly and most people are not 100% on those agreements, which I feel people are right to be skeptical of such corporate-friendly agreements.

Which is why now neoliberal globalism which we have in all three mainstream parties is the problem with our choices because they are all nearly the same type of parties and choices. Which means we do not have much of a choice in decision-making come election time!
commented 2016-05-01 11:44:44 -0400
I would support a moderate conservative party. You can be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. We had that in the old PC party and reborn in the Progressive Canadian party at pcparty.org.

The reason why I support such a party is because they have defined themselves as a party of neither the right or left but conservative nationalist to an extent. They oppose TPP, TTIP, FIPA and most of the terrible trade agreements.

Keeping your money is just using boutique tax cuts. I would prefer income tax cuts with some alterations on spending for infrastructure and necessary programs. Which is why to me moderate conservatism has more ability for people to rise while populist conservatism which has been the mainstream version for nearly 13 years in Canada with the merger of the PCs and Reform/Alliance has resulted in this new type of conservatism which I feel benefits no one.
commented 2016-05-01 11:01:18 -0400
@ John S . . . there is “Right” and then there is the perpetually “Wrong” aka the “Left” ! ! !
Leftists hate the world around them and want to change it: the people in it most particularly. Conservatives just want to be left alone to make their own decisions and follow their own values.
The failure of the Soviet experiment has definitely made the American Left more vicious and hate-filled than they were. The plain failure of what passed for ideas among them has enraged rather than humbled them.

Ronald Reagan famously observed that the status quo is Latin for “the mess we’re in.” So much for the vacant Leftist claim that conservatives are simply defenders of the status quo. They think that conservatives are as lacking in principles as they are.
Some Leftist hatred arises from the fact that they blame “society” for their own personal problems and inadequacies
The Leftist hunger for change to the society that they hate leads to a hunger for control over other people. And they will do and say anything to get that control: “Power at any price”. Leftist politicians are mostly self-aggrandizing crooks who gain power by deceiving the uninformed with snake-oil promises — power which they invariably use to destroy. Destruction is all that they are good at. Destruction is what haters do.
Leftists are consistent only in their hate. They don’t have principles. How can they when “there is no such thing as right and wrong”? All they have is postures, pretend-principles that can be changed as easily as one changes one’s shirt.

A Leftist assumption: Making money doesn’t entitle you to it, but wanting money does.
“Politicians never accuse you of ‘greed’ for wanting other people’s money — only for wanting to keep your own money.” — columnist Joe Sobran (1946-2010)
Leftist policies are candy-coated rat poison that may appear appealing at first, but inevitably do a lot of damage to everyone impacted by them.
commented 2016-04-30 22:42:25 -0400
You forgot the greatest of the “Islamophobes”. This man is a gift from on high, if anyone is. This is a motivated hero : https://youtu.be/5qMyIsSP3GU
commented 2016-04-30 22:27:14 -0400
Yes, yes.. jolly good…
commented 2016-04-30 12:22:49 -0400
Great assessment of the Left’s over simplification and stereotyping of life – yes Conservatives have been mislabeled and there are always 50 shades of gray to everything, including the political spectrum.

As you make abundantly clear in your blurb Gavin, the root of the problem is that leftists and leftist dogma is over simplified and to accept these requires intellectual lethargy. You say the left don’t do their “homework” but that is too kind – from my experience with most dogmatic leftists they never did any homework this is why they swallow all the logical fallacies of leftist political dogmas – unquestioning acceptance avoids rational thinking, something lefties are poor at.

Gavin: kudos on including the “outcasts” and the 2 empirical leaders of arcane insight Jones and Goad – love them both just for their exercise of pushing free speech to the envelope – and they both drive leftist dogmatics madder than they already are.
commented 2016-04-29 23:41:15 -0400
Hey Gavin, what do you have against Michael Savage?
commented 2016-04-29 22:26:01 -0400
You cannot put Breitbart in the “Trump Cons” category, he specifically said Trump is not a conservative, and Mark Levin belongs in the Cruz Cons category, absolutely a fantastic source.
commented 2016-04-29 20:03:51 -0400
Thanks for this – great summary and insight.
commented 2016-04-29 18:31:26 -0400
To the young men who’s estranged relationship with their father became manifest as left wing politics…..you will outlive your father….and then you will see what your father was on about….and the young turks will hate you.
commented 2016-04-29 18:16:10 -0400
If you want to be right wing, all you need is to respect peoples space. Not some safe space bullshit, but just give people room. End of requirements.
commented 2016-04-29 18:02:16 -0400
But, Peter, what about the PC party?

lol, yeah, I know. Not really conservatives.
commented 2016-04-29 17:28:53 -0400
For those constantly complaining about the small font

CTRL + mouse scroll wheel

Increase the page zoom.
commented 2016-04-29 17:25:28 -0400
“Where are the liberal conservatives?”

liberal conservatives is an oxymoron. There cannot be such a category.
commented 2016-04-29 17:24:13 -0400
Well Keith, that could be because your comment was the first one on the page.
commented 2016-04-29 17:10:10 -0400
I say liberal conservative because there are other factions of the right wing meaning centre-right, right and far-right. Another part of the right which was ignored by Gavin are the nationalist conservatives, the compassionate conservatives, the right centrists, progressive conservatism, fiscal conservatism and religious conservatism. It may have been his preference, but the list is right here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism#Forms_of_conservatism
commented 2016-04-29 17:08:12 -0400
Where are the liberal conservatives?
commented 2016-04-29 16:56:53 -0400
…..1648 Hr