December 21, 2018

Alberta separatism is rising. What should we do about it?

Ezra LevantRebel Commander


I haven’t seen any public opinion polls on the question of Alberta separatism, have you? But I am certain that both Rachel Notley and Justin Trudeau have commissioned private polls on the subject.

About two weeks ago, we approached a pollster to commission a poll. And they refused.

I thought pollsters were supposed to be neutral. Yeah, and next you’ll tell me that the media is neutral, too.

I think we’ll probably see an Angus Reid poll on Alberta separatism pretty soon. And, depending on how the question is worded, I bet support will range between 20 per cent and 40 per cent.

If the question is hard, like “Do you want Alberta to become its own country”, I think it would be just 20 per cent.

But if you asked something easier — like the Quebec’s separatist referendum questions — I bet it would be higher.

In 1980, Quebeckers voted on a questions that didn't call for immediate independence, but for Quebec to negotiate a proposed agreement with Canada.

And look what it got them:

In the 38 years since that 1980 referendum, Quebeckers have had the prime minister’s office for 27 out of those 38 years. They get $13 billion a year in equalization payments from the rest of Canada, a guaranteed three out of nine seats on the Supreme Court, affirmative action into every senior job in the federal government, and much more.

So if you had even a moderately pro-Alberta Alberta premier, and you asked Albertans — hey, things aren’t working out well; maybe we’d do better on our own; but let’s try to negotiate a better deal with Canada, but let’s keep independence as an option.

Who in their right mind wouldn’t say yes to that?

So where do we stand on separatism?

We're not calling for Alberta separation. In fact, we recognize that the worst damage to Alberta was done by the Alberta NDP. But we regard that as a once-a-century anomaly. The congenital, constitutional hatred for Alberta from the Laurentian elite — that’s rather permanent.

Preston Manning campaigned on, “The west wants in.” That didn’t work. Stephen Harper allowed the west to live as equals, no special favours. But remove the man, and the system reverted to its natural posture.

We think it’s probably healthy if the Quebec style of negotiation is adopted in Quebec. Albertans would learn just how much better things would be in many real-world measure — mainly financial; but also cultural. Alberta has its own pur laine traditions, too — freedom, individuality, entrepreneurship.

So how are we going to cover Alberta separatism?

With respect, I think. And with an understanding that it comes from a genuine grievance, not an ethnic nationalism like Quebec, not an attempt to extort more cash. A desire to be allowed to live freely and fairly, under the rules of Canada as they were written.

And I think one thing we’ll do is constantly point out how Alberta separatists are covered by the media party, versus how Quebec separatists are.

Here’s one example, from Trudeau’s bail-out media, this one in Postmedia’s Calgary Herald

It’s by Naomi Lakritz, who writes editorials there. But was this really written in Calgary — or in the PMO, as a condition for the $595 million bailout?

Alberta separatists fuelled by loss of civility

Alberta separatism is just another variation of extremist response to the otherwise politically ordinary.

Everything the left doesn’t like is “extremist” or “bigoted” or “racist” or whatever, isn’t it?

She quotes some American book, about other subjects, to describe Albertans:

"Many derive their standards … of conduct from the Bolsheviks. They think it reflects credit on them to scream in the faces of people they don’t like.”

Selfishness and fanaticism are the raison d’etre for the knee-jerk separatism that periodically rears its head whenever it feels the West is even mildly hard done by.

Do you think this insulting, factually inaccurate, historically illiterate rant, calling Albertans names for wanting to work — do you think that will make separatism higher or lower?

Trudeau hasn’t received his briefing note yet from Gerald Butts on what to say about it all, but you can bet it’s going to be along the lines of the Media Party — professors, pundits, the paid-for-bail-out media — all demonizing and denouncing Alberta separatism.

They hate Alberta anyways; they’ll want to hang separatism around the neck of Andrew Scheer in the upcoming federal election; but mainly, they don’t disagree with the underlying premise:

Albertans are different, and their chief role in Canada is to provide money to Ottawa, and a “bad guy” in every Liberal narrative.

And us?

We’ll report on it fairly. We’ll respect people who are driven to contemplate separatism by a system that is broken...

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FINALLY: Your messages to me!

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commented 2019-01-09 16:14:11 -0500
Okay,
I’ve changed my mind about Alberta’s separation, even if it means BC will go bankrupt in a matter of months.
If Alberta separates, BC will be Alberta’s punching bag. There will be no rest for the province.
The taxes would cripple us. Our goods would have to travel through hell. Our investments will be corrupted further as our horrible elected leaders opt to make a little change selling out BC’s interests even more.
BC will become an outright Hell hole. Alone. But I’d rather face an honest Albertan who is unrestricted their beliefs than a province that sold it soul to be another provinces punching bag. Some place is always somebody else’s punching bag. I’d rather it was from a brother province turned country than foreign investors.
Neither invader, deserter or head keeper cares about BC. The Chinese Nationalists & khalistani’s or American. The Albertans and Ottawa. They all hate us but love to visit.
In the mean time, the native British Columbians are too poor from taxes and an inflated economy to fight back. A few can only wear vests rather than get a party going.
If Alberta wants to go. Go. Nobody will stop you anyways. Just don’t become what you hate or you’ll end up like BC.
Alberta always falsely hated BC anyways.
commented 2019-01-04 01:36:34 -0500
For the record, I herby recognize Alberta as the older brother in Confederation since the Hudson’s bay company sold it for 1.5 million to confederation on march 20, 1869 and BC didn’t become a province until 1871. If you go on about settlements & populations regarding provinces/ territories, that’s straight up racist.
commented 2019-01-04 01:16:21 -0500
And if Alberta does separate, FOR THE LOVE OF GAWD, DON’T DRAG BC WITH YOU! Or absolutely do it and save us from the Yanks! Pick one.
You’re the only people we can talk to besides the Americans.
Sure, there’s the Yukon BUT NOBODY IS THERE! NOBODY! Maybe a handful that thinks the rest of Canada is full of wimps. Plus, the Yanks own a third of our coastline.
We can’t win. You cut us off from everybody and we’re stuck staring at you to see the rest of the country, Alberta.
We don’t want to move through you or around you. BC wants to work with you by maintaining its borders. You’re the older sibling in this. You decide Alberta. What’s good for you & the country & your little sister, BC?
commented 2019-01-04 00:00:26 -0500
Hey NDP sucks,
I wasn’t quite finished w you. All that I ask as a British Columbian that Alberta STOPS WHORING US OUT. Is that such a simple thing to ask? Don’t turn your sister province out for tricks? We’re beat up. Old. Diseased. We need a new career.
I really don’t see any alliance between the Red Tories in Alberta and the actual conservatives in BC (little c) by forcing a pipeline on us. Show some decorum.
If I get slated for the cross sticks (get tallied for crucifixion) for my freedom of expression, so be it!
commented 2018-12-25 00:07:36 -0500
NICHOLAS CONKLIN commented 1 day ago
Al Peterson,

I just like watching you digging yourself deeper in the hole. It will make all of this more satisfying for me.
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So you keep saying. over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. But his Monday for sure, right?
commented 2018-12-24 23:35:49 -0500
We should separate !! I would vote for that 100% . Fuck Quebec!! Should have let them go in the 80’s .
Instead the politicians in Ottawa took it up the ass from Quebec leaving the future generations to struggle .
They don’t deserve shit ! Shit down the equalization payment now!! Let them leave if they don’t like it .
commented 2018-12-24 18:47:27 -0500
Charred Remains,

I see you are making friends with your new user name, Flat Earth.

LOL.
commented 2018-12-24 18:16:31 -0500
I recall the last 2 times, both of the Quebecios starting the idea of “Independence” from Canada while at the same time, taking ADVANTAGE of all the built-in Security and Markets, ALREADY established. Thus giving Quebec a FREE RIDE on the rest of Canada. I could never understand WHY average Canadians gave a Witt about whether Quebec should stay or leave. Most I spoke with thought, OK, but, NOT on your terms! However, your Friends in Ottawa step in, actually, BEND-OVER, and give Quebec a Super-sweet deal vs. THE REST OF CANADA!
If I were a Canadian living in Alberta, say, I’d be VERY pissed-off and disgusted. In fact, as Albertans, they may decide that THEY are willing to leave Canada, not Quebec!
Their needs to be a wake-up call in Edmonton or wherever! The Libs are at WAR with you! Wake up and fight back with KNOWLEDGE, CANADA!
commented 2018-12-24 18:05:28 -0500
Please Grow Up, CHARRED REMAINS!
commented 2018-12-24 12:17:21 -0500
Charred Remains is like a dog in the back yard BARKING ISSESCENTLY … only because it likes to hears it’s o bark.. while anyone within distance is just plain ANNOYED. Opens the window and screams “SHUT THE FU** UP ALREADY”
commented 2018-12-24 00:02:27 -0500
Charred Remains,

You left an impression all right – I couldn’t believe that in his day and age that you actually believe that the Earth is flat. You are among a special breed of anti-science and anti-logic morons.
commented 2018-12-23 23:05:06 -0500
Charred Remains,

So what happened – did you cross a line and your Flat Earth user name got banned here or did you get tired of people mocking you over the fact that you think the Earth is flat and decided to change your user name?
commented 2018-12-23 21:28:33 -0500
Charred Remains,

When did you stop using your Flat Earth Flat Water user name?
commented 2018-12-23 21:19:35 -0500
Bye bye Charred Remains.
commented 2018-12-23 20:28:47 -0500
Charred Remains-
I don’t get that option as a Conservative. If I kicked the Left’s balls from behind, I’d be in jail too. I need a certian level of tact to survive here.
Conservatives I can go head to head & still go out for beers with. The Left, and I mean the HARD RADICAL LEFT need a level of diplomacy without giving an inch of moral ground. Be it by attrition or friction.
There is some ultra right wing groups here in BC, but they usually attack their own & go to jail in a quick fashion.
All I want more is more jobs from British Columbians FOR British Columbians. Be from any background so long as you are a British Columbian. Besides from the bloody gov’t!
Don’t give me battle tips buddy, I’m trying to teach you guys. 😎 Think outside the bar scene. Its okay. Lol.
Ah, you’ve been fun. You’ve been offensive, so was I. Shit gets done that way.
commented 2018-12-23 19:54:42 -0500
Charred Remains,
Your name is what BC is half of the year. Yah, I got testy. Thanks for taking an earful.
commented 2018-12-23 19:45:34 -0500
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commented 2018-12-23 19:40:36 -0500
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commented 2018-12-23 18:17:52 -0500
Wait, I’m wrong, Charred Remains.
The four main employeers are the gov’t, Chinese nationals, Sikh radicals (I think. I’ll check on that) and American!
Whoopie. I’m sure there are some independent farmers that sell to the same four. But I’d put American last in those four. Mostly tech I assume and we all know about that.
Count your damn blessings, its Christmas.
commented 2018-12-23 18:06:05 -0500
Charren Remains,
Quit bragging about being Conservative when everybody else thinks like you. A quote “Sheepdog”, 😖. You’re really brave as a pact, aren’t yah?
You pipe up here, the wrong crowd will KILL YOU. Ostracised, sued, beaten, you name it. People are scarred shitless even with guns.
Not just you either. You’re whole frigging family. You can’t drop your kids off at school, pick up your drugs from the pharmacy, smile at your neighbour or go to the grocery store without the stink eye IF YOU’RE LUCKY. I’m lucky because I’m not a pig head about being Conservative and I get along with most everybody.
I’m not alone. But everybody is scared. Who has the balls now?
commented 2018-12-23 17:55:49 -0500
Okay Charred Remains,
I like you. I like Alberta a LOT. I tried to move there but Notley made it a shithole.
You understand you have an immigration problem? Will you guys build a wall & a pipeline? BC & Alberta are brother & sister. If you guys become a shithole or try to drag us with you while we’re being brutally raped by Chinese nationals, the whole continent will feel it.
You DON’T CARE we’re so badly lied to by a 2 party system. You think we ask to be out of a job & our homes. You think lowly of Albertans fleeing to BC because there is a little work from Chinese nationals & expelled Sikhs here & more of a welfare state. Even though we’re all forced on welfare. We love Chinese, we live Sikhs, but we hate who the grass roots sikhs & chinese hate. Then you jerks ask us to build a pipeline to add rocket fuel to Chinese national corruption.
Excuse me if I want you to grow up and take your 20 billion in corn kernels and ask you help us so we can help you. Was that too much to ask? We’re trying to help ourselves badly but would you win as a province against 2 invasions (Left wing American & Chinese nationalist) with Ottawa’s consent?
I’m not bending a knee. Speaking up is kicking ass at the cost of everything.
Merry Christmas. 🎄🎅
commented 2018-12-23 17:40:30 -0500
Charred Remains , Alberta has been a doormat for the rest of Canada for as long as I can remember . Need a good paying job , come to Alberta , need welfare for your province , take it from Alberta . This scenario has been played out for too long and I am a little sick of it ! I have no intention of leaving my home province because in my opinion Alberta is the best province in this once great country ! Mountains , rivers , forests , lakes , prairie , badlands and the cleanest and most stringent laws regarding oil extraction and development yet low intellect people say its dirty oil . I’ve worked in Alberta’s Oilpatch for over 35 years and I assure you that Alberta is the world leader in clean technology for oil extraction and anybody that says it isn’t is a complete liar ! Just ask sock boy and his Butt , the biggest liars to ever walk on Canadian soil . This confederation is broken beyond repair ! It’s time for Alberta to leave !
commented 2018-12-23 16:26:13 -0500
Charred Remains,
Ask the refugees if they want to leave first. The talkers aren’t the listeners.
Are we saying “Good bye” or, do you want to this video? I’m like the girl in the white pants.
https://youtu.be/rAAlABaX8XM
commented 2018-12-23 15:57:58 -0500
Charred Remains,
I don’t care what you view. I care what other people do.
Take care.
commented 2018-12-23 15:48:16 -0500
Charred Remains,
Trade secrets, sweatheart. Thanks for the chat. Keep your vanity mirror clean.
commented 2018-12-23 15:02:21 -0500
Okay Charred Remains,
I’ll tell you a little bit. You see provincial agreement. BC sees Sheeple. That’s a general assumption. I don’t speak for every British Columbian.
commented 2018-12-23 14:58:59 -0500
Charred Remains,
There is plenty of agreement. I just won’t tell you because it would just make you upset.
I know thy province.
commented 2018-12-23 14:56:36 -0500
Charred Remains,
AHHAHAHAHA!! Eh heh.. Ha!
Bad mouthing Horgan is a trade secret, buddy.
I live on one knee, eh? Keep dreaming. I love Albertan refugees.
commented 2018-12-23 14:53:00 -0500
Your way or the highway, Charred Remains?
Look where that got Hillary indeed.
The stakes are high for all of us. That’s my point. Wait until the next few elections. Turn yourselfs around. Think about all of your province members. Open your mouth and speak truth to power and fight legally with all that you have.
But remember to separate, you need MP seats in all the provinces to get the vote.
Enough already. CTFD.