July 29, 2016

POLL: Alberta separatism on the rise? Blame Notley and the “national conspiracy”

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

A poll conducted by Insights West says that 23 per cent of Albertans want to become a separate country. It’s lowest amongst young people, students, millennials who still live at home with their parents. For them, it’s just 9 per cent.

But for grown-ups — parents, taxpayers, business owners, entrepreneurs — support for separatism is at 31 per cent.

Do you know what percentage of Quebeckers believe in separatism these days? It’s 32 per cent.

Alberta separatism is within spitting distance of Quebec separatism.

Some of that separatism is an expression of outrage at Rachel Notley.

But Notley is part of a national conspiracy of anti-Alberta politicians and anti-oil lobbyists, who are strong in British Columbia, with all the eco-extremist groups.

They're strong in Justin Trudeau’s government, and strong in the media — all of whom hate Alberta and oil and gas and pipelines.

We haven’t seen the last of Alberta separatism.

And like his father Pierre Trudeau, that suits Justin Trudeau just fine. He needs an internal enemy to attack, to blame, to divide.

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commented 2018-01-17 10:51:40 -0500
I’ve been an Alberta Independentist since 1968. Support for Alberta Independence waxes when the Liberal scum control Ottawa and wanes when it’s the Conservatives. The most important thing I learned over the years was that electing Conservatives (or Reform or whatever) changes nothing. Ottawa will continue to shake the Alberta money tree no matter who’s in power. Ottawa will continue to do things detrimental to Alberta’s interests because they can. And if we squawk the Canadian Brainwashing Corporation will just label us hillbilly rednecks.
commented 2016-07-31 04:05:47 -0400
And gun ranges are not “supposed” to do that sort of thing, but, what the hey!?…
commented 2016-07-31 04:03:45 -0400
Some enterprising Albertan should copy and print the overhead pix used atop this story… I’m sure more than one Albertan would just love to pin it atop his rec room dartboard…
commented 2016-07-31 02:06:19 -0400
What an awesome thought, hey Jay?
commented 2016-07-31 01:20:29 -0400
Many of us are in favour of Alberta separatism. We do not know what it means, but we are in favour of it.

Imagine, Alberta as its own nation.
commented 2016-07-30 15:48:00 -0400
As I noted in a different post a few days ago – the same urban/rural divide is what drives Ontario’s mad political climate… The people of Ontario’s fate is decided time and again by the self-serving clods living within sight of the CN Tower on Toronto’s waterfront…
commented 2016-07-30 15:26:47 -0400
- The so called elections of Trudeau and Notley were not elections at all. They were cleverly contrived manipulations (coup De-tat) backed by “International Powers Brokers”. Their goal, to move Globalist friendly puppets in to place.
Canada as a Nation has to be destroyed, and how better to do it than to start with places like the resource strong and independent Alberta. Trudeau, Notley, Wynne and others are U.N. Globalists, privateers hell bent on the treasonous destruction of the Nation.
Oh and this isn’t just a new thing, Papa Trudeau had a hand in it as well by signing over the powers of the Bank of Canada to International privately owned Banksters. The destruction of Canada and the USA as well has been in the works for a long time and now we are starting to see the fruits of these traitors labors, right in our faces, as they step up the programs of Globalism/Socialism/Totalitarianism.
Succession would mean – civil war – … Oh, Oh for all the pooh, pooh, whiny cry baby nay Sayers, guess what? The war has already started.

Friend or Foo
John Ball:
Be war or ye be wo;
Knoweth your friend
From your foo
commented 2016-07-30 14:17:31 -0400
John T…..take a look at the electoral map of Alberta and you will see who voted them in. It is clearly an urban \ rural devide.
commented 2016-07-30 14:16:22 -0400
Western Separation has oft been described as a mile wide and an inch deep. The inclusion of the west in the previous Conservative Gov’t probably prevented any growth in those dimensions and possibly some retraction. The current crop of politicos will exacerbate the situation potentially causing a resurgence. Notley and her ilk will not survive when the people have their say!
commented 2016-07-30 13:17:28 -0400
But… But.. You Albertans voted Notley in.. Why are you complaining? .. My God.. Did you not take a look at the history of having the NDP in B.C. ? Socialism simply doesn’t work.. Period.
commented 2016-07-30 10:12:31 -0400
That shared laugh between Notley and Justine in the picture above is secretly about how they are going to screw over Alberta together.

They need to take those cowboy hats they are falsely wearing and meaningfully “insert them where the sun don’t shine”. Then we can take a sand blaster and scrub those infuriating smiles off their smug faces.

No, no, no, I have no unresolved feelings of anger towards those two assholes. Nope. No way!
commented 2016-07-30 10:03:58 -0400
James Scott said, “I still have the NEP scars as evidence.”

I never voted for Pierre “idiot” Trudeau, but I certainly have the NEP scars.

Pierre is the reason the Liberals never got into power provincially. Justine just reinforces that hatred of Liberals in Alberta and now Notley is creating her own “hate the NDP” wave in Alberta.

As far as Western separation is concerned … bring it on! I am tired of the West being raped and simultaneously dumped upon by the East.
commented 2016-07-30 08:17:15 -0400
Farm is up for sale – we are moving back west – taking two other families with us and about ten jobs as well.

To hell with the welfare state of the maritimes, kebec can take a long linger lick of my butt and ontario and any people remaining in it can go straight to hades.
commented 2016-07-30 03:11:45 -0400
NDP Sucks……I’m not on face book, any where else one can go? Oh..and count me in!
commented 2016-07-30 02:12:10 -0400
I’m originally from Quebec, but I had to move out west to become a separatist.
commented 2016-07-29 23:10:32 -0400
Count me in for separation. I believe Alberta would have to go it alone. The vast majority of BC’s population(lower mainland) is what we are trying to get away from.
commented 2016-07-29 22:32:02 -0400
I hope that every one who voted for NDP in the last election, who normally vote Conservative, are so adversley affected that they are scarred for life. Never again to vote NDP in their life again! (Kind of like me when I once (only once, hehe) voted for Pierre Trudeau. What a grave error in judgement. I still have the NEP scars as evidence.
commented 2016-07-29 22:02:38 -0400
Kelly Weber , what needs to be afforded? We do not depend on other parts of Canada in case you missed it.
commented 2016-07-29 21:41:17 -0400
https://www.facebook.com/groups/340333196141679/ Republic of Western Canada

https://www.facebook.com/search/top/?q=alberta%20independence%20movement Alberta Independence Movement

If you live in western Canada and are interested in separation see the facebook links above. Each province is required to hold a referendum to separate. I believe the Western Independence Party of Alberta has obtained the required 8000 signatures and are now an official registered political party. https://www.facebook.com/wipalberta/?ref=br_rs&qsefr=1
commented 2016-07-29 21:21:34 -0400
Alberta and Saskatchewan always had more in common with Montana and Idaho anyway. Anything East of Kenora or West of Trail is foreign to me. South to Colorado, Nevada, Arizona and even Texas, I consider more my compatriots. The NAm borders should have run N to S and not E to W.
commented 2016-07-29 20:47:07 -0400
Never, in the history of Canada, has so much damage been done, by just two, Father and Son in the name of Trudeau. History, if anybody bothers to write it, after the Trudeau years, will tell a story of evil and corruption, led by gangsters and their gangs of Liberals and a few NDP hangers on. Of course, any history will be written in Arabic.

To the Trudeau’s Notley’s and Wynes of Canada, I say, Up Yours.
commented 2016-07-29 20:19:11 -0400
Another year they won’t be able to afford to separate.
commented 2016-07-29 20:13:23 -0400
If Alberta and/or Western Canada separated Notley would not remain Premier for long.

She would either have to step down and go into hiding, or she would be stepped down from her position one way or another.

At least that is my take on the subject.
commented 2016-07-29 20:00:06 -0400
The website, Free Alberta, makes the case for an independent Alberta that can not be denied. The plunder of Alberta is well into the hundreds of billions since the 1960’s.

commented 2016-07-29 19:51:51 -0400
1. Independence for the West

We believe a new nation of Western Canada with a new political system, is economically politically and socially necessary. Without independence for the west, the cultural and economic disintegration of Canada is inevitable. The west must be defined by Western Canadians, for Western Canadians.


Although our principles and goals are near and dear to our hearts, we recognize that each and every one of them may be unattainable even in a nation of Western Canada because they depend on the will of the people.

Rather than argue over these particulars now, we must first realize one thing clearly:

None of these goals, or anything else, is attainable unless we first get the power to decide in our own nation. First and foremost, we must have the power to decide! Everything else is only possible if we succeed in that goal. Everything else depends on our ability to persuade the people thereafter that our other goals and principles are right, good and beneficial.

Everything depends on Independence. Free the West, then let us as free Western Canadian citizens, decide the rest!
1. Independence for the West

We believe a new nation of Western Canada with a new political system, is economically politically and socially necessary. Without independence for the west, the cultural and economic disintegration of Canada is inevitable. The west must be defined by Western Canadians, for Western Canadians.

2. Language

Since the common language in the West is English, the official language should be English. All other languages should be equally encouraged as second languages, to be pursued at private expense, but not for official use in any way.

3. Life

From conception to natural death, human life should be regarded as sacred and treated with respect. The unborn and mothers should be protected from dangers of an economic, social or emotional nature. Society owes it to mother, the unborn and its own future well-being, to provide all necessary support and protection to human life. The unnatural deliberate termination of human life is criminal unless in defense of life itself. We would enact laws to reflect these principles and protect the value and dignity of human life as it is we believe divinely created.

4. Property

The private ownership of property is an essential element of human dignity and personality. This does not necessarily extend to corporate monopoly or cartel but does include the individual ownership of earned productive capacity. The state must protect the right to private property to ensure the productive creative instincts of the individual in harmony with society.

5. Culture

We believe in development and protection of a genuine national culture true to our existing European heritage and values. Multiculturalism has meant in the end cultural ghettoization, conflict and no culture at all. We can look to the history of our own Native American brothers and see the dangers of unrestricted immigration. To foster tolerance and understanding, unity of culture is essential. Capacity to voluntarily assimilate is a prerequisite to all new immigration. This is essential to avoid cultural and racial conflict.

6. Parliament

The duplication of federal and provincial jurisdiction in the west is a costly measure which is currently used to divide and conquer the west. This occurs socially by provincialism and economically by high taxes due to bureaucratic duplication and overlap. We believe in spreading the power over Western Canada through a regionally elected senate while balancing this with representation by population in the elected lower house. This means the Prime Minister could sit in either or both houses and choose a cabinet from either. Laws would need majority support in both houses.

This would mean, for example, one department of justice in Western Canada not 4 provincial and one federal department with double bureaucracy today. If we have a fair share of political power we don’t need to be protected from government by its bureaucratic inefficiency.

7. Defense

We believe in a period of compulsory public service to be accomplished by training in search and rescue, reforestation, forest fire fighting and other essential public works organized by government.

The defense of Western Canada militarily with the help of volunteers after such service would be the result of that training. We believe the economic strength of the west on its own resources would provide ample funds for all necessary defense expenditures. Those dollars would be spent in our own defense industries located where the funds come from to provide jobs in the west. Combined with the patriotism which results when people choose their own government and enjoy less tax burden, the defense of Western Canada (in one language) would be assured. The problem of bilingualism in the armed forces would be solved.

8. The Economy

Western Canada has always been drained by the east. With 27% of Canada’s population we produce 52% of Canada’s fishery, forestry, mining and agriculture and 80% of Canada’s petroleum and natural gas. These resources have been taxed heavily, upon export, to the benefit of Ontario and Quebec, where 80% of Canada’s manufacturing is located. The population of Ontario and Quebec have majority control of the House of Commons and so control spending which returns more revenue, jobs and control to Ontario and Quebec. This vicious economic cycle, robbing the west to feed the east, will never be broken without political independence for the west.

With independence, the resources, purchasing power and control of our economy returns to the land of Western Canada. We begin to control our own monetary, fiscal and economic policy. We trade more freely with the Pacific Rim countries and negotiate all arrangements to our advantage, not to Ontario and Quebec’s. No more will equalization payments subsidize Quebec while they burden us with their language. The economy of the west would save billions of Western Canadian dollars if we set our own interest rates (low) and our dollar would be strong as our exports were valued around the world.

9. Immigration

Many people think that we are responsible for poverty in the third world. Although we owe a duty to try to assist where we can, poverty in the third world is not our responsibility. We did not create it and we cannot solve the problems of the third world by importing them in the form of immigration. Our responsibility is to care for and nurture the land entrusted to us and to use wisely the fruits of our endeavors to provide well for future generations. Immigration can result in Western Canada becoming just as crowded as the third world. Immigration policies need to reflect the wishes of Western Canadians, which today in Canada, are ignored.

10. Fiscal and Monetary policy

We believe government which creates money has no need or right to borrow it from anyone, but should create the credit as currency and loans from the central bank based on the real value of goods and services produced and thereby there should be no national or municipal debt. The result would be a more debt-free economy and far greater stability. The artificial federal reserve and central bank policy of the United States give ultimate control to private financial interest and not the country as a whole through its government.

11. United Nations and Internationalism

We believe in freedom and non-interference in the national affairs of other countries. We do not believe the United Nations constitutes a real hope of world peace but of world government and ultimately international socialism which will eventually destroy private property and freedom. We believe that nations should function on the basis of mutual respect and enlightened self-interest. Western Canada will not be heavily involved in foreign aid. We will not be funding Marxist dictatorships or be involved in anything other than trade to the mutual advantage of ourselves and other nations.

12. Freedom

Basically our view is that freedom means freedom from government. The Canadian view of government no matter what party is in power, involves more and more interventions in people’s lives. We believe that freedom will be best enshrined by removing the power of government to legislate in certain areas and hence we would not be involved in human rights tribunals, language commissioners and other forms of state moralizing.

We would maintain the traditional fundamental freedom of speech, thought, belief and opinion. But all legislation over what people in voluntary associations of individuals choose to say, think, write short of actual advocacy of violence would be abolished. Freedom would be restored to the individual and groups’ powers to impose their views would be reduced. Magna Carta, the Bill of Rights, and Charter of Rights would apply except to the extent limited by these principles. The state has the right to ensure safety of its citizens from actual physical harm or the real and present danger of it.
commented 2016-07-29 19:42:33 -0400
Trudeau’s post national Metro-Canada will be a Frankenstein monster I want no part of…
commented 2016-07-29 19:31:40 -0400
I’m in…
commented 2016-07-29 19:17:42 -0400
I would be fine with it. Tired of being crapped on and blamed for problems in the east. Let them steal from themselves and see how that works out for them.
commented 2016-07-29 19:11:32 -0400
Alberta separatism has always been a political option ranging from a low of 15% to as high as 38% popularity – it started with, and always flairs up again, when fed-Liberal regimes run by a Laurentian elite are in power – in that scenario the primary Liberal tactic of consolidating an eastern power base is done by by disenfranchising western interests and particularly Alberta – Please note that Trudeau v2.0 detests Brad Wall’s petro industry economic independence as badly as Alberta’s;

He and his Butt boy think they can collapse those economies by controlling/regulating the transport of their prime industry commodity (oil/gas) by killing pipeline expansion.

Time for the eastern scum to freeze in the dark.
commented 2016-07-29 18:55:14 -0400
I live in a town of just over 400 and I would say that a good 60% would go for separation. Where was this poll taken, redmonton?