May 03, 2016

An argument for religious freedom for people of all faiths, or no faith at all

Brian LilleyArchive

Ideas are not equal but people are, that is the reason that Abdu Murray says that we must all defend religious freedom. Murray, the North American Director of Ravi Zacharias International Ministries, was raised Muslim and converted to Christianity as an adult.

Speaking at the 5th Annual Parliamentary Forum on Religious Freedom in Ottawa, Murray says there is a push on what kind of public participation religious people should have. He says there is a secularism that calls for all people of faith or no faith to be given space in public square and then there are those that say religion must be a private affair, kept out of the public.

In his talk Murray argues that supporting religious freedom means also speaking up for the freedom of people of other faiths or no faith at all.

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commented 2016-05-05 01:05:30 -0400
So what about Baalim who practice child sacrifice and forced protitution of their virgin daughters? What about Celtic Crom Cruagh cult ? What about Aztec sun worshopers?

All of these societies had the same goal and the same sense of morality….yes …if I were a spectator at an Aztec heart rendering and I turned and stabed the person next to me in the heart….there would be moral outrage that I did so.

The maral code that is the goal of religion is not the problem….it is what is asserted as the discipline and sacrifice necessary to get there….and it has been our exploration of the secular approach to law and justice that has been our civilizing salvation….not the Puritan witch hunter…not the Sharia medeival mutilator….not the righteous ostraciser…..and not the father willing to sacrifice the son who’s paternity he doubts because he pimped his wife/half sister to save his sorry skin.
commented 2016-05-04 08:19:36 -0400
Most religions seem to allow their people to evolve culturally. If Christians did not evolve, we would still be wearing togas and clothing that the Hebrews wore 2000 years ago. Even the Jewish people dress like westerners and not like their forefathers.
Now contrast this to the so-called Islamic faith. They still dress like Mohamed (may he rot in hell) and proclaim that they are an enlightened society.
commented 2016-05-04 03:02:57 -0400
Excellent and well referenced. Judaeo-Christianity has undeniably revealed and taught mankind the “Truth” of our “essence” and has formed the cornerstone of all freedom and liberty in the world, as well as, being responsible for the advancement of all of mankind. Furthermore, it has provided mankind with a critical moral compass for all to use, regardless of belief or situation.
There is no proprietary ownership of this Truth by any group, religion, belief, or, professed non-belief system, for it is truly equally universal, omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient for everyone since it exists from within each individual. In Reality, “Truth” is all there is.
Pragmatically, it would intuitively be apparent that the “Spirit” of our true essence reigns Supreme and is an absolute requirement in any human society or endeavor to be operationally beneficial to All in providing sustainable happiness, peace, harmony and progress. History has taught, and likely most everyone, upon contemplation of certain experiences, can attest that whenever the “Spirit” of a constitution, any law, principle, ethic, intention, endeavor, authority, agreement, or relationship is attacked, compromised, or discarded, only negativity, evil, corruption, anarchy and destruction follows due to the inability for discernment of Absolute Truth from falsehood, or the will to guard against falsehood. A continual denial or rejection of Truth, appeasement of falsehood and passivity can only lead to the eventual destruction of oneself, of others, and possible annihilation of all humanity.
Therefore, one would elucidate that, at all times, but most importantly in the world as it is now, operationally, one can conclude that integrous intention and leadership, alignment with Absolute Truth, Critical Point Analysis and Situational Ethics have never been so important in this moment and to the future of humanity. “All hands on deck!”
The simple slogan of “calling a spade, a spade” is essential and paramount in the determination of humanity’s future path.
The wolf quickly knows when and where the herd is most vulnerable and plans it’s attack when the herd least expects it. The safety and survival of the herd totally depends upon learned wisdom, unity, and the utilization of all available faculties.
commented 2016-05-03 22:35:21 -0400
(Meant to say ‘taught’ by Jesus!)
commented 2016-05-03 22:34:50 -0400
Tell it to the Muslims. Islam would be excluded, it is a Political Platform, not a religion.

The same thing could be said about Catholicism, if you go back to the time when the Pope ruled Kings.
commented 2016-05-03 22:31:04 -0400
As defined by the Catholic Church:

Faith without reason is fanaticism
Reason without faith is relativism

I just had this discussion today on missionaries who, as it was said to me, hundreds of years ago, went to remote areas and ‘changed’ the indigenous people of these regions to practice Christianity.
Christianity is based on ‘love’, as said in this video, love thy neighbor, do unto others.
Imagine if these missionaries, who were murdered, skinned alive, eaten, beheaded, etc etc had not gone out to these ‘uncivilized’ areas; groups would possibly still be practicing what the Islamic extremists/terrorists are doing, or cannibalism would still exist, or human sacrificing.
Judaism stopped sacrificing animals when Christianity was started by Jesus.
commented 2016-05-03 20:00:24 -0400
As a life-long Libertarian it pains me to have to ad a proviso to the concept of free exercise of religion – Free exercise of your faith as long as doing so causes no one any harm – no I don’t care if it offends or annoys or hurts some tender feelings – if it causes no material harm to others in the practice, knock yourself out worshipping anything from the kitchen sink to some cosmic snack food.
commented 2016-05-03 18:04:00 -0400
Great speech!