June 08, 2017

Andrew Scheer walks Conservatives into Liberal trap

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show

The Conservative Party of Canada backstabbed its supporters by voting for a Liberal motion in support of the Paris Agreement, and the implementation of a carbon tax

In my last video, I listed the Alberta "Conservatives" who voted in favor of the motion. But I know other places in the country are going to be hard hit by the carbon tax. Northern BC and Saskatchewan both have resource intensive economies that will be hit particularly hard. 

Conservative supporters across Canada need to be sure the Party hears from us, otherwise, we might end up with another Alison Redford or Patrick Brown.

Until the Conservative Party of Canada renounced its support for the UN's "Paris Agreement", they will not get any of my donations or volunteer time. I'm asking you to make that pledge too.

SIGN the pledge today at backstabbers.ca 

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commented 2017-06-13 22:41:35 -0400
The right is already split Kal. Not my doing.
commented 2017-06-12 12:38:06 -0400
Jimmy: thank you sir!

Liza Rosie,
Avoiding an attack campaign isn’t motivated by fear as you’ve assumed, it’s solely based on the projected gain or loss of voters. Every decision made through the filter of winning vs losing. It’s much clearer when you take ego and emotions out of the equation.

In that sense, it’s probably a good thing someone like you isn’t in charge, as it’s dangerous to fear looking weak so much that it causes a political blunder. The amount of tough-talking bravado in your earlier post is (sorry) usually a sign of insecurity, and sure enough you express overwhelming fear that your party has strayed, and now your voice will no longer be heard.

If Chong or a Red Tory had won, I would be sharing that fear with you. A socon like Scheer has to tame himself with a self-imposed and politically-necessary lean toward the centre, if his eyes are truly on the ball.

Where we greatly differ is that you seem to need the comfort and security of a tough-talking CPC leader who spews fire and brimstone to the left, while constantly holding your hand to reassure you that he’s right beside you in your ideological safe space.

You need that security so badly that, rather than lose it, BY YOUR OWN ADMISSION you’d rather throw the election and endure a second term of Liberals (the worst is yet to come btw if that happens).

Small fringe parties are full of grumbling folks like you, perpetually angry, never winning, but at least their like-minded leader ensures their voice is always heard within the party.

For me, especially as a firearms owner, this is existential. I cannot endure a second Liberal term which makes this election reduce to a simple truism: Scheer MUST WIN. I’m comforted to see that he is demonstrating that same philosophy. “But, but… I don’t want a Liberal-Lite leader who abandons those values!”

Politics 101: how he campaigns, and what he does if elected, are not the same thing. As you know, the CPC leadership campaign is very different from the federal one. Expect a big switching of gears. It might be helpful to know that as PM he’d almost certainly snub the accord, regardless of the maneuvering going on now and in the days ahead. Distasteful because it’s disingenuous…maybe, but that’s politics for you. Let him do his politicking, because like it or not, he needs disgruntled Liberal voters and that simply won’t happen if he trumpets traditional CPC values.

Getting elected will require the perfect storm: (1) Lieberals continue to blunder (2) Scheer campaigns strongly and resonates with a majority of Canadians, (3) a strong NDP leader to split the left.

No need for us to help the Liberals by splitting the right.
commented 2017-06-12 01:58:27 -0400
I thought I made that perfectly clear Jimmy. If the conservative party has to turn liberal lite to win then the answer is a resounding no. I would prefer a strong opposition in the form of a new party. A liberal lite conservative party is useless to me.
commented 2017-06-11 21:51:47 -0400
liza Rosie,

Do you want to support a conservative party that can actually win? Doesn’t seem like it.
commented 2017-06-11 16:22:36 -0400
Thank Gawd we missed the liberal bullet of being called a bad name! “Did you know the Lieberals had an attack campaign prepared in anticipation of Scheer’s vote against the accord?”

My goodness how terrifying! What might it have entailed? More fear and loathing bull shit?
Does anyone really believe that Justin’s thugs will not be in CONSTANT attack mode against Scheer and the CPC as a party? So Scheers entire leadership will be premised on going along to get along, dodging liberal bullsht bullets so the CPC can look more liberal?
Yeah, we will see how that works out for them at the polls , Jimmy and Kal. We’ll see if the conservative voter deep throats that codswallop.

Please explain what this big ambush was you were so scared of Kal. I don’t want to support a party who will back down this way. I don’t want them to win if this is how they will govern. There is time for a new party to emerge, and if we don’t get the liberals out this time we will at least have an opposition that will OPPOSE, and ream their asses next time.

We may have put up with Harper being a centrist, but we live in a different world now, partly due to those centrist views, and cannot afford another middle of the road leader.
commented 2017-06-11 12:39:32 -0400
Kal Barrett,

Great post. People here don’t seem to understand that if they are hard core conservative on everything, the CPC simply won’t be electable. The Canadian majority is simply not conservative, so the CPC need to carefully choose their battles and appeal to that Liberal Canadian majority on some level.

Rebel posters here somehow think that Canadians are dying for an extreme right PM. They don’t seem to understand that Canadians hate Trump and the things he is doing, so they certainly don’t want that same kind of mentality here.
commented 2017-06-11 10:44:40 -0400
Tammy P-Z: try to at least be philosophically consistent in your argument. You rail against virtue signalling by the Liberals but think Scheer should have “called for all members to abstain” to give a “principled response”?
In other words….. he should have offered more virtue signalling??

History is littered with failed footnote politicians who stubbornly adhered to exactly this sort of “principled response” and took their eyes off the ball. The winners weigh every political decision by asking “which choice most favours electoral victory?”

Did you know the Lieberals had an attack campaign prepared in anticipation of Scheer’s vote against the accord? Your politically-amateurish choice would have walked you right into it. Scheer avoided it the way Harper would have. You and I likely hang out in our respective echo chambers where everyone we associate with is strongly against the accord, but NEWSFLASH most Canadians are in favour of it. Do you want Scheer to beat Trudeau in 2019? Or not? Because that’s what it comes down to.

Also, this wasn’t Scheer’s decision alone, it was the entire CPC backroom. Collectively, no offence but they’re smarter than you, and understand the politics necessary to win better than you. Cheryl was clearly in on it, and her role as the enforcer was to cast the lone vote that sent a quiet message to the base: CPC values are not dead, this was a whipped vote, and we hope you can figure out why. Evidently not everyone gets it.
commented 2017-06-11 04:00:37 -0400
We need to put pressure on the conserrvative party.
commented 2017-06-10 13:30:21 -0400
We don’t have time for this bullsht. The clock is ticking. It is time for the conservative party to start honouring the values that gave it its name.
commented 2017-06-10 13:03:43 -0400
China has nothing to lose and will continue emitting green house gas unfettered until 2030. The agreement which is not legally binding will be a self imposed disadvantage. Do you think Scheer means he won’t comply to it? I rather doubt it. Also, since it is non binding, does anyone actually believe that China will EVER comply? Why would they? The Accord commits, though not in a legally binding way, any country signing on, to fork over ‘nationally determined contributions’, what do you think that means? Sounds like an international carbon tax to me. It is a farce and we should ignore it and stand with the United States, our greatest, biggest and most influential ally, not to mention our closest neighbour. Give your heads a shake ‘big tent’ cino’s.
commented 2017-06-10 12:52:54 -0400
Liza Rosie, I agree 100% when you said, Avoiding ‘traps’ by appeasement, to deny the liberals ammo against us, seems like a fools game to me. That theory gives you a way to square the circle, but the logic of it seems very superficial and the whole thing ends up looking disingenuous, not to mention hypocritical.
commented 2017-06-10 12:44:34 -0400
Tammie good post, well said.
commented 2017-06-10 12:43:19 -0400
I am trying to see the other side, but for the life of me I cannot see the value in running a party by constant moves to appease the opposition. We have more than one party for a reason. We don’t want them to all be the same. We didn’t vote liberal so why would we want our leader to act like one. Avoiding ‘traps’ by appeasement, to deny the liberals ammo against us, seems like a fools game to me. That theory gives you a way to square the circle, but the logic of it seems very superficial and the whole thing ends up looking disingenuous, not to mention hypocritical.

I thought big tent meant accommodating a wide spectrum of conservative values. The operative word being ‘conservative’ values. If big tent means turning cino then it will only erode the integrity of the party. Scheer’s first move as leader has resulted in a self inflicted wound. It doesn’t have to be fatal, but that is up to him. If the conservatives go down before they get started, they will only have themselves to blame. I voted for a conservative not a liberal lite. I didn’t vote for Scheer because he seemed evasive and a bit too ‘big tent’ for me. I didn’t want another Rona. However I am prepared to support him if he quits this appeasement, on climate change or anything else. It is time for change not getting along to get along.
commented 2017-06-10 12:19:08 -0400
Kal Barrett, I find it very interesting the post below is your very first comment; I searched the site and came up empty!
Are you quite sure Andrew Scheer is practicing what you are calling “big tent politics”? I disagree, he walked into Gerald Butts plan to later use the results of this motion in attack campaigns, and to snub Trump for leaving the Paris Agreement.
Like others have commented, Scheer could have called for all Conservative Members to abstain and tell the PM the party doesn’t want to become involved in Trudeau’s petulant virtue signalling in Parliament. It is a principled response to Liberal grandstanding.
commented 2017-06-09 23:11:31 -0400
Instead of doing Justin’s work for him, why don’t you stop bad-mouthing Scheer and give him a chance. This is how you win elections, with big tent politics.

Scheer didn’t walk into a trap, he AVOIDED one by denying the Liberals ammo against him, and he did it wisely by using a meaningless vote on a meaningless accord (voluntary reduction targets, no enforcement mechanism).

You should also stop conflating the Paris Accord with the Carbon Tax, they are not the same thing.

The irony here is that it’s the Rebel Media doing the backstabbing.
commented 2017-06-09 21:57:56 -0400
Andrew Scheer
The Tory steer
Dressed himself in blue
Then changed to red
And got in bed
With little turdo la doo
commented 2017-06-09 11:12:32 -0400
Are you guys on the hook for billions of dollars, like the US was, for corrupt 3rd world countries to support Paris Accord?
commented 2017-06-08 21:13:18 -0400
But but, I’m so confused, he said he’d kill a carbon tax.

Reform party 2 dot 0 commin at ya
commented 2017-06-08 19:46:32 -0400
I didn’t even receive my membership card!
I’m going to send an email and instruct them to cancel my membership.

Good idea Fraser! Thanks
commented 2017-06-08 19:26:26 -0400
I remember Brad Trost saying that the Conservative establishment likes your financial donations, but your ideas not so much.
commented 2017-06-08 19:10:23 -0400
History always repeats. Papa Doc had Joe Clarke to punt around, and now Baby Doc has Joe Clarke the Second.
commented 2017-06-08 19:03:48 -0400
I am thinking the CPC is is major damage control mode. Reason is no reply from my MP after copying him my cancellation letter more than 24 hours ago. I think they are trying figure out how to reply to this revolt, because the small time contributors are the CPC financial and political base.
commented 2017-06-08 19:03:41 -0400
Fraser good idea, when they have a pile of returned membership cards (cut in half) maybe they won’t be able to ignore us. I am putting mine into the mail in the morning.
So tired of being deceived!
commented 2017-06-08 18:50:02 -0400
Rebels, please e-mail Cheryl Gallant with your thoughts, she was the lone Conservative voting truthfully!
commented 2017-06-08 18:40:38 -0400
I voted Erin O’Toole first on my ballot, and, I know he would not have voted this way; or forced the other members to either!
commented 2017-06-08 18:38:20 -0400
I just e-mailed Cheryl Gallant to express my gratitude she voted NO.
I explained that I have already e-mailed Andrew Scheer and my MP to strenuously object to the CPC supporting the Paris agreement. I also wrote that my financial support has stopped.
commented 2017-06-08 18:31:09 -0400
Conservatives have a lot of ‘splainin’ to do. I feel somewhat vindicated as Scheer was not on the radar when I voted in the leadership? race. I agree with others that Western Separation is the best possible way to remove western citizens from the heel of the eastern commies!
commented 2017-06-08 18:29:59 -0400
By looking at that pic of that tyrannical backstabber – appears he is showing us the size of his dick & his brain! …but way more than his sudden loss of support.
When treason becomes a way of life in Canada – it’s time to lock & load.
commented 2017-06-08 18:19:03 -0400
Watching a video of the spectacle in the House of Commons, which had the atmosphere of a joyful celebration, the House came across as a House of “useful idiots”, except for the one lone principled Conservative MP, Cheryl Gallant. Pathetic!
commented 2017-06-08 18:09:39 -0400
maybe it’s time for the reform party to leave the liberal progressive conservative go on their merry way into oblivion Today I sent back my membership to the progressive conservative party unfortunately I had paid for a five year membership, fool that I am to trust a political party.

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