“Every healthy, law-abiding America should have an assault weapon!”

“I am not against lawful gun ownership but I question why civilians need military style assault weapons whose only purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. "

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George, I wrote a book on the phenomina of boy soldier conscripts….worked on it for three years….that scene in Mel Gibson’s “The Patriot” convinced me to re-think the whole thing…

George, I don’t know if you have ever considered …in appropriate circumstances….a home guard, malitia minuteman, or insurgent resistance…

If you have not…don’t worry…others have.

The weapon of choice for those who have is the Armalite 15 semi-automatic gas impingement rifle chambered in pressure augmented NATO 5.56 (a variant of Remington .223).

An American Chief of Police who is opposed to Washington’s gun control law:
http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/11/18/washington-state-police-chief-pushes-back-new-gun-restrictions?intcmp=ob_article_footer

Law enforcement dragged their feet. Teachers should have been armed. The resource officer was a coward. He has to live with it. There is no point in giving a gun to a coward. It doesn’t change the fact that an adult trained and motivated could have saved most of those kids.

“Liza, does the Breitbart article mention the armed “resource officers” at Parkland that failed to stop him?”
A good point Andrew. The deaths could have been prevented if law enforcement had done their damn jobs starting with picking him up before he even walked into that school. The fact remains, a gun was the only thing that would have stopped the Parkland shooter and saved lives. Which was the point you seem to have missed entirely.
https://twitter.com/AndrewPollackFL/status/1066156287455608832

Believe what you want Andrew and George for that matter. Sheep and Sheepdogs. Its easy to tell them apart.

“So why this hysteria over guns in Canada?” asks Ken Dibnah.
Because well versed totalitarian leaders know that an unarmed populace is not going to be a bother to them when they do those things that totalitarians do. Its a manufactured problem alright.

Andrew, you didn’t watch the video’s either, did you?

“Alberta Maga commented 19 hours ago
George guns are made to hunt and protect as well. The person sing it decides what it is used for. And please let me know when a gun has gotten up and killed someone without a person.”
A loon with a gun kills far more than a loon without one.

" Alberta Maga commented 19 hours ago
George sorry but countries with strict gun control have more deaths , like Brazil for example. "

Do you feel Brazil is the most comparable nation, demographically and socioeconomically, to the US? Why would you omit Canada, the UK, or Australia, which are arguably far more similar to the US and better basis for comparison? Oh, I bet it’s because they show the opposite.

Liza, does the Breitbart article mention the armed “resource officers” at Parkland that failed to stop him? Being Breitbart, I’m guessing not. There were also shootings in Miami and Birmingham, Ala. Torontno’s murder rate is comparable to New York’s, but New York is the safest large city in the US.

All during the last Liberal gun registration hysteria, while they were burning through billions of dollars, I owned a gun. In fact, I have owned guns my entire life and when 12 or so, used to take my .22 rifle on the bus on the North Shore of Vancouver to the local rod and gun club, where I would shoot every Saturday morning for prizes. Nobody batted an eye when I sat on the bus with my rifle and I continued for quite a while just carrying it until my father gave me a case for the gun, thinking other bus riders would be concerned. Nope, never a rude or frightened or liberal comment. Try doing that now!

Guns have always been a toy or a tool, Canadians have always owned guns and just 5 minutes on Stats Canada’s site proves it. The murder rate has remained steady in Canada at “about” 500/year with less than half caused by guns; during the gun hysteria, gun crimes decreased marginally but the murder rate did not. Murderers chose knives and baseball bats instead and the death rate stayed steady. The death rate for cancer? About 65,000/year. The death rate for heart ailments is about the same too but the rate of killings by guns is NOT EVEN STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT.

So why this hysteria over guns in Canada? There really isn’t a problem with them, we are remarkably peace-loving in Canada yet the current government is hysterical about them and liberal snowflakes go crazy whenever “gun” is mentioned.

Presumably this is another huge Liberal red herring like the purchase of a pipeline; shots are fired, Liberals shout “havoc” and rush to the microphones to decry guns and gun ownership while screeching about “gun control” so that liberals have a rallying cry and everyone (except this crowd!) are distracted from the real problems we have in this country and get all pious and sanctimonious over guns.

Gun control in this country is a manufactured problem that has no basis in facts or statistics. Gun control is approaching the same looney religious zealotry as “global warming/climate change/pollution” and has as many or more adherents.

I called you a leftie because you seem to espies left wing positions most of the time here. I didn’t “name call you” I identified your political leaning. Name calling is Nazi, homophobe, islamophobe, xenophobe, transphobia… you get the idea.

But you still didn’t dress the content off any of the video evidence I suggested to you. WH not?

Al Peterson, why do you assume I am a " leftie" just because I don`t subscribe to your right wing take on gun control. I am a Conservative voter and have worked on an several election campaigns for both an Alliance and Conservative candidate. I am disappointed but no longer surprised that many Rebel contributors will not participate in a reasoned exchange of ideas without resorting to name calling and questioning the intelligence, loyalty or integrity of a fellow Canadian who does not share their opinion.

Whoops that was just the intro. Here is the full video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN0vkSO9n8Y

Here is a significant video by Jews for Preservation of Firearms Ownership. Now why would Jews be in favour of firearms ownership?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYkO_3dZAYg

George, you point 2 is bogus. Gun related deaths are meaningless. Overall murder is the issue. The US isn’t anywhere near the top. Whether you are dead from a gun or dead from a knife you are dead. You lefties keep spewing the same lame arguments that have been deflated times without number.

Here are some quick facts for you, George;

More guns equal more death:
https://firearmrights.ca/en/hello-world/

Insurance Industry Says Gun Ownership is not a Risk:
https://firearmrights.ca/en/gun-owners-are-not-a-risk-insurance-industry/

Somebody could have taken the Danford shooter out. Two girls would still be alive and the maimed would still be whole. So much for trained ex military as an option for security on our schools and streets.

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2018/11/23/report-parkland-shooter-paused-five-times-unarmed-bystanders-powerless-to-intervene/

Just ban criminals and Bob’s your uncle!

Dale Warren, you are right that minor crime rates in Britain and Australia went up but gun related homicides decreased exponentially once strict gun regulations were put in place. I am probably as well informed about the gun problem as you are, but don`t take my word for it. ALBERTA MAGA, referred me to an article in support of his argument. I read it and came to the conclusion that gun control works. Just to quote 4 examples from this article;
1. "but in general, more guns means more gun related violence’.
2. “the U.S has far more guns than any other nation on the planet, it also has by far the most gun related deaths than any other developed nation.
6 times the homicide rate in Canada, 7 times as many as in Sweden and 16 times as many as in Germany” countries which have strict gun regulations
3. “while the specific relationship between firearm availability and homicide is complex, it appears that a viscous circle connects firearm availability and homicide levels.
4.”one recent study suggests that stricter state gun laws do make a difference. Researchers concluded that states with the most firearm legislation have the lowest rates of firearm associated deaths; as well as the lowest rates of both murders and suicides with guns"
Thanks for the article. I think you just made my argument for me.

George . . . perhaps if you were better informed . . . . when they confiscated firearms in Britain & Australia the crime rates went up.
Criminals don’t obey the laws now . . . how could anyone think passing dozens of laws to restrict honest citizens was going to stop crime?
https://crimeresearch.org/
Every year in the USA . . . citizens have stopped 10s of thousands of criminal acts because they carried . . . and you never hear about that in the insane far-left media.

I guess there is no sense reiterating what I have been saying or putting more facts on the table. I am not against responsible and controlled gun ownership and I have never said all gun owners are irresponsible. We had guns on the farm when I was growing up as a kid and I have nothing against legitimate gun ownership. Canada actually has reasonable gun laws and my argument is not in favor of placing more restrictions on gun owners; my worry is the proliferation of military type weapons in the hands of civilians who may not have the skills, discipline or training to handle these weapons.. My comment about leaving guns lying around is not insulting or inaccurate. I was talking about the United States where in the past 3 years children under 12 years old have accidentally killed hundreds of family members or friends with mostly hand guns left in purses, on couches, in the back seat of a car and even children`s bedrooms. Because of much stricter gun control laws in Canada, or a more mature and careful hand gun ownership this is not yet a problem here, and I hope it stays that way. I guess you see me as an anti-gun zealot and anything I say will probably not convince you that I am not anti-gun, I simply want a system of weapons control that will result in the least amount of harm to my fellow Canadians. The problem of criminals getting guns, and while most of the murders within the criminal culture is gang on gang or directed shootings, not innocent bystanders, it is a serious problem and stricter policing and mandatory sentencing for gun related crimes should be implemented across the board, but I will leave that discussion for a later date.

Did you notice the article I inserted? The Parkland shooter reloaded several times, taking his time, quite relaxed, because he knew that the school was a gun free zone and he did not have to worry about a teacher coming out and training a gun on him. That school shooter, the Danforth shooter in Toronto, or the lunatic in the truck would not have got but a few feet before he could have been taken out, had a citizen been able to respond and return fire. My final thought is that if nutcases for Allah or crims who bring their gangs up to Canadian cities knew Canadians were armed, more crims would die, more innocents would live, and fewer would try it in the first place. That’s what I care about.
You, being ex military would be the exact sort I would want to be carrying so there would be those around to respond to a school shooter or a Danforth maniac as long as the armed were of sound mind, have training, and have ongoing properly done security checks. You do know that assault weapons are not available to the general public, and anyone discharging, handling or storing carelessly is looking for the loss of their firearms, fines and or jail time. Also, the only “uncontrolled firearm use” is done by illegal guns and those with no license, not legit gun owners.

Alberta Maga is right, your comment about countries where gun control works is not correct.

It was a question, you answered it, thank you.
I just can’t understand why you think all legit gun owners are irresponsible, hence my inquiry. One would assume that in your course of duty, even though most of it was spent in the air, that you may have returned fire to save your own skin or one of your own. You are the one making insulting comments insinuating that leaving a gun lying around carelessly is something that happens with any frequency. You must be aware of the hoops gun owners in Canada go through. No one is saying it never happens or that someone unbalanced has discharged their firearm and hurt or killed, however that sort of incidence is far outweighed by innocents getting shot or killed by illegal guns wielded by those with bad intent. Farmers and property owners in rural Saskatchewan for example have had many incidents of attacks by two or truck loads of inebriated thieves. They need to be able to protect their families and their property.

Liza Rosie at the risk of having my military service mocked and ridiculed once again by Rebel contributors, yes, I served in the RCAF and Canadian Armed Forces for 35 years. I was a helicopter pilot with over 5000 flying hours. As a Major I was responsible for Army helicopter training and oversaw the Instrument Flying program for all helicopter squadrons in Canada and Germany. I also commanded a Chinook Squadron in Edmonton. On promotion to Colonel, I was the Canadian Commander and for a period of time the Chief of Staff for the Multinational Force and Observers in the Sinai. At our National Defense Headquarters I was the Director for Military Planning and Coordination and I finished my military career with a 3 year tour as the Canadian Armed Forces Defense Attache to China and Mongolia. During my career I have seen the harm weapons can do and that is why I am leery of uncontrolled assault weapon ownership, like in the States. I think, in spite of the opinion of some Rebel followers, I have a reasonable understanding of politics international issues and my grasp on reality is at least comparable to some of your fellow contributors. Standing by for the snide comments and questioning of my service. George

https://people.howstuffworks.com/strict-gun-laws-less-crime1.htm

George sorry but countries with strict gun control have more deaths , like Brazil for example. And vice versa. And cities with strict gun control have more deaths than less strict cities.
http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/guns-in-other-countries/
And Canada had a lower rate than the US before we had gun control.

George don’t say using your argument , the banning is your opinion.

George guns are made to hunt and protect as well. The person sing it decides what it is used for. And please let me know when a gun has gotten up and killed someone without a person.

https://twitter.com/Paola_Dec1231/status/1065735192030138368
91 homicides in Toronto (good work Tory) with 6 wks to go. T.O will probably exceed 100. That is disgusting. Why should the crims be the only ones with guns, and how much sense does that make?

At the end of the day, regardless of any accident or domestic legal gun-use stat, they will be far outweighed by the crims who still have guns no matter what.

“I am not against lawful gun ownership but…”
You could have fooled me George. Your big ‘but’ basically says, gun ban.

“I fear what will happen when a careless gun owner leaves his assault rifle in the home unattended”.
That is an insulting comment. 1. The general public cannot legally own an assault rifle as previously explained, and 2. legit owners don’t leave their firearms ‘lying around’.

Were you really in the military? In what capacity?

Wow, great responses, don`t know where to start . Cars unlike guns, are not built to kill people, they are made as a form of transportation and unfortunately improper vehicle handling does kill people. A major airline crash kills hundreds in one accident; using your argument we should also ban airplanes. I am not against lawful gun ownership but I question why civilians need military style assault weapons whose only purpose is to kill as many people in as short a time as possible. Looking at the number of children under 12 years of age who have accidentally shot friends, siblings and even parents in the U.S. over the past few years, I fear what will happen when a careless gun owner leaves his assault rifle in the home unattended. Another fact, countries with strict gun control laws have per capita hundreds of times less gun killings than the U.S.A. As someone said, gun control doesn`t work except in Australia, France, Japan, Canada, U.K. Germany, Iceland, and many other countries. In the United States, the easy access to guns and the willingness to escalate minor grievances into shoot-outs contributes greatly to the number of deaths each year. Add to this the number of mentally disturbed people who should be banned from owning a firearm but still can acquire one and the problem becomes even more obvious to anyone who is willing to see and not just blindly parrot the NRA mantra about ’guns don`t kill people people do"..

george zvanitajs motor vehicles killed way more in that time, why are you not calling for their removal?

George he did not say everyone, learn to read.