September 11, 2017

BC Liberal MLA betrays party to become NDP speaker: Will backstabber be recalled?

Christopher WilsonRebel Commentator
 

British Columbia’s NDP/Green government have a new Destroyer to add to their team, and this has huge political ramifications for the province. 

Darryl Plecas, a BC Liberal MLA elected in Abbotsford South, effectively crossed the floor to take the speakership of the legislature.

Since the NDP formed government with the Greens, they were expected to offer up a speaker from their ranks, which would have removed one of their votes in a very tight majority.

But Plecas has now removed his vote from the opposition benches, essentially giving the NDP a three seat majority until the by-election for Christy Clark’s former seat.

This move makes it that much easier to undo sixteen years of BC Liberal free market, low tax, pro-industry and resource policy.

Why did Plecas do this? Why did he betray the BC Liberals and walk into the arms of Premier Horgan and his destroyers?

Could it be the extra $50,000 per year salary and the cushy benefits that come with the position? 

Watch as I show you what Plecas said back in June that will haunt him for the rest of his political career and what voters in a conservative-leaning riding like Abbotsford South can do about this situation.

Plecas has faced some consequences from the BC Liberals but remember, in BC, we can go further since we’re the only province that has recall legislation.

Recall legislation dictates that an MLA can only be recalled 18 months after the election, which leaves those planning to organize such a movement ten months until the recall date in November 2018.

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commented 2017-09-13 23:11:50 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, everybody knows how the system works. There are no misconceptions here from me or anyone else. You haven’t taught us anything. Arguing about semantics is a waste of time, and I’ve wasted way too much too much time with you already. Have a nice day.
commented 2017-09-13 17:58:06 -0400
A;so, because that’s how the system works. You vote for the individual MLA, not the party.

Don’t get triggered when your misconceptions of how the system works collides with how it actually does. .
commented 2017-09-13 15:16:54 -0400
Maurice…..you can always count on all knowing Andy to tell you what you posted is really not what you think or what you said. Even though you clearly state that you are voting for the party, all knowing andy tells you you are not, because…….well………all knowing andy knows it all. If you don’t believe that, just ask him, he knows everything.
commented 2017-09-13 14:50:38 -0400
Actually, it is. You may think you’re voting for the party, but you are actually voting for the candidate. You may think it’s a betrayal of trust, but it’s well within the parameters of the parliamentary system to do so. You may think you’re voting for the party, but you are not. You are voting for a representative who happens to be affiliated with it. It’s not much different than people getting upset about the coalition government – it’s not the most traditional way to carry on, but it’s acceptable within our system.
commented 2017-09-12 23:33:52 -0400
It isn’t a misunderstanding, Andrew Stepehenson. It’s the voting public trying as best they can to work within the limitations of the parliamentary system. If a candidate crosses the floor, they’ve betrayed the trust of those who elected them, and that should be illegal.
commented 2017-09-12 19:03:19 -0400
“Maurice Potvin commented 17 hours ago
But although they physically cast their vote for a candidate, they do so in order to elect a particular party to govern. That’s the point I was trying to make, and I thought I made that point very clear. "

I don’t disagree that this misunderstanding is widespread. However, it is what it is.

“Andy Neimers commented 4 hours ago
I would not dismiss the possibility of Plecas being recalled at all… Abbotsford South is very “conservative” country which has never elected an NDPer… While urban in the north end of the riding, it is rural south of the Trans Canada Highway with many Dutch Reform farmers on the land… And they don’t vote NDP or Green!… "

Actually, the combined NDP/Green vote in this riding was 41%, only 11% behind the Libs. Although definitiely Liberal-predominant, it’s hardly overwhelmingly so, and less so as time goes on. It wouldn’’t take a lot for this to become a swing riding, and Piecas’ switch would very likely be the catalyst to do that. Remember, this is a riding that in 2008, voted 28% for an independent who lost his original riding to redistribution, on name recognition alone.

I get that the Rebel hates the NDP, but the political water is quite muddy on this one, and that hatred does not extend that far out.
commented 2017-09-12 14:29:39 -0400
I would not dismiss the possibility of Plecas being recalled at all… Abbotsford South is very “conservative” country which has never elected an NDPer… While urban in the north end of the riding, it is rural south of the Trans Canada Highway with many Dutch Reform farmers on the land… And they don’t vote NDP or Green!… Plecas also set himself up for failure by supporting the call to make the TCH six lanes wide to alleviate the daily commuter crawl… With the NDP immediately putting a stall on even improving the bottleneck Highway 99 Fraser River crossing, that also seems unlikely… Anyway, give the good burghers of Abbotsford a chance to organize in the coming months because one can be sure the NDP/Green Tango Party will provide dozens of opportunities to hate them…
commented 2017-09-12 11:50:54 -0400
“The government said $291 million is also being allocated to build 2,000 new modular housing units for the homeless over the next two years”
That’s almost $150K per unit!! Free to the homeless!
Meanwhile, hard-working young people are struggling to pay their rent. It’s becoming apparent that not working brings a better lifestyle with less stress than working and paying taxes.
commented 2017-09-12 02:08:21 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, NOBODY votes for a candidate because they LOVE the candidate. They vote for the candidate because of which party he or she represents. Of course they vote for the candidate, because that’s how the parliamentary system works. But they don’t vote for NDP, John Smith because they like John Smith. If they vote for him, it’s because they support the NDP. There may be some exceptions, of course. John Smith’s Mommy may vote for him because she’s so proud of her baby boy, But generally people vote for the candidate because of which part that candidate represents. Some people may vote a particularly political party because they like the leader of that party, but obviously they can’t vote directly for him or her unless they’re in the same riding. So they vote for they candidate that represents that same party in their riding. But although they physically cast their vote for a candidate, they do so in order to elect a particular party to govern. That’s the point I was trying to make, and I thought I made that point very clear.
commented 2017-09-12 01:36:39 -0400
Hopefully the BC voters learns something from this.
commented 2017-09-12 01:35:36 -0400
Andrew sadly you are right, these days it would take quite the rage inducing and even then i doubt much would be done unless the act was against the interests of other politicians,it would almost have to be mass murder for someone to be recalled for betraying the actual people and that goes for any party.
commented 2017-09-12 00:56:59 -0400
Historically speaking, the answer is probably no. BC has had 26 recall petitions. Precisely one has achieved the requirements for recall, though he resigned before it could be invoked. Getting 40% to care is going to be tough, but if you want to try it, good on you. Floor-crossing is not something that typically invokes that sort of rage.

“Maurice Potvin commented 2 hours ago
I believe the vast majority of Canadians, regardless of province or territory, and regardless of political leaning, vote for the party, not the candidate. If that’s the case, and I’d bet my life that it is, why isn’t crossing the floor, without a clear mandate to do so from your electorate, illegal???

Long story short, it’s because you actually vote for the candidate, not his party. Government is formed by having the confidence of the majority of the members in the house, not by which party holds the most seats or who gets the most votes overall; the system considers individual mandates stronger than party ones. You may not like it, but that’s how it works.
commented 2017-09-12 00:23:46 -0400
I see I wrote “adoration” again instead of “aberration”. I think I did the same thing once before. Stupid spell-check!! (It couldn’t possibly be “Stupid Potvin”)
commented 2017-09-12 00:16:51 -0400
From the information available it looks like a pure sell out! Money, power, other ‘percs’ down the road?
The Globalists are in place in the West, and this apparent betrayal was just another part of it, to solidify the Globalist’s already sketchy ‘election’ win in BC and across Canada.
From the Province:
http://theprovince.com/news/bc-politics/darryl-plecas-why-i-took-speakers-job
“I’m putting my constituents first,” he said. “This is the best way I can serve. It won’t be with the Liberals now, but maybe that’s for the best. I’m an independent guy.”

WTF does that mean? As far as I can tell the rest of the article said nothing in actual explanation either!

I can’t help think TS’s gonnaHF here real soon…
commented 2017-09-11 23:18:11 -0400
Maybe he had two choices
Blackballed , or blackmailed , and he settled for blackmail
commented 2017-09-11 22:57:41 -0400
I would remind BC voters that here in Alberta the supposedly dead Wildrose party elected more MLAs than ever before in the 2015 election after we were told they were on life support. If they had been elected to govern, Alberta might have recall legislation in place by now.
Don’t waste this opportunity. Send a powerful message to politicians all over Canada. We will be forever grateful.
commented 2017-09-11 22:41:46 -0400
I believe the vast majority of Canadians, regardless of province or territory, and regardless of political leaning, vote for the party, not the candidate. If that’s the case, and I’d bet my life that it is, why isn’t crossing the floor, without a clear mandate to do so from your electorate, illegal??? To me, that’s a no-brainer. If the party under whose banner any elected politician ran, adopts policies that the politician cannot in good conscience support, then the proper thing to do would be to resign and run in a by-election, either as an independent, or for another party whose political philosophy aligns with that politician’s. ANY floor crossing is a blatant betrayal of those who elected them. This is SO self-evident that I have never understood why it isn’t simply a given in our electoral system. The only reason it isn’t the law is because political leaders have always hoped to benefit from this adoration. It certainly isn’t out of any consideration for the democratic process. In fact, it possibly the most undemocratic aspect of our parliamentary system. Darryl Plecas is a traitor to democracy and those who elected him. His political career will be very short.
commented 2017-09-11 22:15:00 -0400
I hate double crossers, and most voters do too!
commented 2017-09-11 22:01:33 -0400
IF THIS RECALL WORKS IT SHOULD BE THE LAW OF THE LAND.
commented 2017-09-11 22:01:03 -0400
“Very disrespectful, very dishonourable”.
Be careful what you wish for Darryl Plecas.
commented 2017-09-11 20:13:31 -0400
Let’s get that damned recall vote started ASAP!!
commented 2017-09-11 19:44:52 -0400
There will be more B/C Liberal MLA’s of convenience who will cross as well. They miss the percs power brings, which percs are why they entered politics. Horgan is solid for his four years, pending who replaces Clarke. If the replacement is a Scheer type, then Horgan is solid for eight years and will even remove the need of Weaver.