January 30, 2018

Beware “hunt camp” building permit shakedown! Is “taxman” illicitly spying on private property?

David MenziesMission Specialist


A hunt camp can be anything from a small shed to an insulated building, but they aren’t homes, have no civic address, no postal delivery, no garbage pickup and generally, no hydro or road maintenance.

Yet, new technology is used by government agencies to find out where such structures exist, and when they’re found, property owners are subjected to a shake down for building permits and supplementary tax bills.

In some cases, we could be talking about a glorified outhouse in the middle of nowhere!

The details in the case of the McNab family who purchased a 300-acre farm in Mississippi Mills, Ontario in 2007 as told in a Landowner Magazine article, provide an example.

In 2016, they say they received a registered letter stating it had recently come to the municipality’s attention that a hunt camp had been built on their property and failure to apply for a permit some nine years earlier, may result in a fine of $500—per day.

And how did the township discover the hunt camp?

It appears government agencies are spying on citizens, all the while hoping we won’t catch on to this abuse of authority.

The McNabs remain mired in bureaucratic red tape to this day, but two things come to mind:

First, next time the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is tinkered with, how about we include private property rights?

And secondly, if Big Brother is conducting this type of surveillance, how about using it to keep tabs on what ISIS returnees are doing when they aren’t busy in poetry class?

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commented 2018-02-21 08:49:00 -0500
Millions possibly billions spent on illegal,s crossing our border. Now the government is overloaded with fakeugee claims and say they will not be able to make the hearing dead lines. I suspect they will all be declared citizens due to their rights being violated for lack of a timely resolution. Regular Canadians are being extorted by this government. The farm (hunting camp) is being extorted for money, while all the livestock is being eaten by fakugees. Walk across the boarder you will be arrested. NOT given free health care, food,money, and a free place to live. ISIS fights against us they are welcomed with liebral open arms. Canadians are not. Trudeau for treason.
commented 2018-01-31 15:35:09 -0500
Here is a novel idea. It’s a hunting camp, defend it with whatever you have on hand.
commented 2018-01-31 10:22:44 -0500
Because of the ineptitude of big government and their addiction to spending other peoples money…an addiction seemingly worse than any drug…this over the top action would be considered nothing more than a new “revenue tool” by the overlords. By the way that term ranks up there with…diversity, inclusion, irregular immigration, terrorist travelers and the myriad of other leftist terminology which seem to amount to nothing but virtuous bafflegab to reflect the “koolness” of these jackass posers. I railed on REBEL some time ago about the dark future of Alberta under communistic NDP rule. I have repeatedly warned how our property rights will be eroded and how government will use a no holds barred approach on their takeover of all aspects of our lives. We see the obvious push already with our parks and recreation. Another term by Sheila Gunn Reid’s “destroyers” and we may see all forms of hunting banned in Alberta. This is not a joke…they are sick…for proof, look at the proposed school curricula.

I fully agree with Paul Taylor’s last line in his comment below.

Progressive liberalism….scourge of the 21st century!
commented 2018-01-31 10:13:40 -0500
This whole deal stinks of corruption. If the local council advised them that there would be no problem with them building a hunt camp and after they had done it changed their minds and decided to bill them under other rules, the question is “Who is profiting from this?”. Is someone from the council trying to force them off the land so they can buy it dirt cheap? Questions should be asked if they can find an honest Councillor.
commented 2018-01-31 06:35:57 -0500
I remember when The Clown Prince was running for office. “No new taxes” was one of his lies he spread like a pound of crap.

After about a month in office I figured out another signature slogan of The Clown Prince . “The budget will balance itself”. If Turdo and his band of thieves need more money they just look for ways to steal it from true Canadians. This is just one example.

Trudeau for prison in 2018!!!!!!!!
commented 2018-01-31 01:39:32 -0500
The Beatles Saw it a long time ago:


Let me tell you how it will be
There’s one for you, nineteen for me
Cos I’m the taxman, yeah, I’m the taxman

Should five per cent appear too small
Be thankful I don’t take it all
Cos I’m the taxman, yeah I’m the taxman

If you drive a car, I’ll tax the street
If you try to sit, I’ll tax your seat
If you get too cold I’ll tax the heat
If you take a walk, I’ll tax your feet

Cos I’m the taxman, yeah I’m the taxman

Don’t ask me what I want it for (Aahh Mr. Wilson)
If you don’t want to pay some more (Aahh Mr. Heath)
Cos I’m the taxman, yeah, I’m the taxman

Now my advice for those who die
Declare the pennies on your eyes
Cos I’m the taxman, yeah, I’m the taxman

And you’re working for no one but me
commented 2018-01-30 22:18:12 -0500
- The government has been weaponized against the people at pretty much every level.
commented 2018-01-30 20:21:18 -0500
Lets not forget it was Pierre Trudeau who forced his so-called Constitution Act of 1982, and his so-called Charter of Rights and Freedoms on us. This set Canada up for changing from the British system to the French system, unalienable rights vs statute law – or set us up for the loss of British Common Law rights and protections – or for socialism. He set us up – but good!
Where pray tell are our property rights listed?
Pierre also gave us judicial tyranny, and those nasty lefty-activist judges!
Abortion on demand.
Homosexual marriage sanctioned by the state.
You know the rest of that nightmare list…
This is why ‘thegovernment’ can even attempt this huge, totalitarian overreach and invade every aspect of our private lives…while robbing us blind…and get away with it!
We’ve also let them get away with it.
Pierre Trudeau is also responsible for for forcing Justin on Canada…allegedly.
commented 2018-01-30 20:16:23 -0500
London Ontario uses satellite photos to look for backyard pools that haven’t been registered. Then they show up unannounced to inspect your pool, and maybe force you to remove it if they are unhappy with it
commented 2018-01-30 16:53:35 -0500
Correction on the “shall not be construed” David (and I know this from experience in other legal disputes)

The syntax “shall not be construed” is to defend the law or the policy that contains that phrase…not the right in due or entitlement that is refered to…

In other (weasel) words…the lawyers who drew up the law anticipated the objection and declared in the statute that the objection does not have standing (ergo notwithstanding)…the exact OPPOSITE of what you would think by reading it….

Sorry David….I know how much learning this disappointed me.
commented 2018-01-30 16:44:09 -0500
Try not paying your taxes and see how long you own your property.

Once the mortgage is paid you then continue to pay another “mortgage” to your local country or city.

You NEVER truly own the land.
commented 2018-01-30 16:33:18 -0500
We obtained a valid building permit for our shed, provided the Township with building plans. Township employees visited twice after a huge sign was posted on our property for 30 days to give neighbours a chance to complain if they wish…no one did and we proceeded with the build. Two more visits after completion asking whether the project is finished….answered yes both times, confirmed there is no electrical…it’s NOT a workshop, it’s a shed. Clearly spelled out at all stages.

It costs us an extra $900.00 a year on our property tax bill. I have no doubt Google Earth is used in our area as well.

In the McNab’s case, it would appear the person operating Google Earth for the government doesn’t know their elbow from their butt! Their $7000.00 is being tied up while they appeal such an obvious error & jump through hoops to get the government to admit it. A credit is no way to solve this, they are owed this money, plus interest for the time it is taking to resolve this mess.
commented 2018-01-30 16:17:52 -0500
This has been going on for a while and its disgusting. Permission to do all kinds of things on YOUR OWN PROPERTY just means that you don’t own it. Personally Im sick of this shit and I remember Scheer talking about changing property rights for Canadians
commented 2018-01-30 15:53:55 -0500
Gonetario- Canada’s first shithole.