May 21, 2017

Blasphemy charge doesn't stick to Stephen Fry: Will Canada’s M-103 be so forgiving?

David MenziesMission Specialist

Have you heard the one about a comedian who took some jabs at God only to find himself investigated by police for blasphemy? There’s no punchline here, because it actually did happen but not in a hard-line Islamic republic

Recently, Irish police launched an investigation of comedian Stephen Fry after an interview he did aired on t.v. in which he described God as “capricious, mean-minded, stupid,” and “an utter maniac.”

Watch as I share the story with you including the happy ending for Fry that saw police close the case without charging him, but also take a moment to make a point about why this incident stands as a cautionary tale for Canada’s recently passed M-103.

The motion purportedly condemns all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination—but especially Islamophobia.

Those against M-103, myself included, argue this motion may lead to a bill that could lead to a law banning Islamophobia, a term still not clearly defined.

Add to this, the changing demographics of Canada, and I get a nervous feeling in my gut.

Because, unlike in Stephen Fry’s case, Canadian police will easily find “a substantial number of outraged people”, making prosecution of those mocking Allah and/or Mohammed a proverbial slam-dunk.

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commented 2017-05-22 18:39:30 -0400
Ron Voss: I am not referring to how religious adherents may interpret laws but how our courts should be responding. No doubt each faith believe their are the true faith and would believe that only their faith is being truly blasphemed against but how can a court decide whose religion is true and I am doubtful any government wants to push a conversation addressing this because as soon as you did all the others would chime in feeling slighted and wanting to know what justification was being given to disqualify them from being the true faith. It is an important conversation though even though most people lack the maturity or understanding why it is important. When you have someone like Trudeau suggesting there is no Canadian values that is pretty scary and a wake up call to all of us as to why we need to have a basis for claiming why some beliefs are superior to others or we will get lost in a moral/legal quagmire that cannot differentiate between one religion’s beliefs and anothers and will be played out in the public court of Islamphobic charged accusations.
commented 2017-05-22 17:06:16 -0400
EDWARD JOBIN with respect to your argument, “How can one blaspheme Allah if no one can effectively prove he or any deity exists”, it goes beyond blaspheme to any criticism of Islam, for example, drawing a cartoon of Muhammad who is not the Islamic god.
commented 2017-05-22 13:12:13 -0400
Believe me Edward you would sooner live in a God-fearing nation than a godless one…
As of present you are still enjoying the benefits of a God. fearing nation even in it’s declining believes. You will see in the future that anything goes in a godless society.!
Again… It is in man’s nature to try to disprove God and live by man’s law in the vacuum that is created by the removal of divine law and we can all see where that’s going..
Unfortunately believe grows weak as ego and pride for this grow strong allowing malignant beliefs such as the Islamic faith to take kind of hold because in the eyes of atheists God does not exist..
However you are correct about Allah because you cannot prove his existence so how can it be blasphemy..
I feel genuine sorrow for those that will live under sharia and Islamic law as their punishment for abandoning Christian beliefs.
commented 2017-05-22 11:56:33 -0400
Leviticus: Everyone is entitled to believe or not believe but his really isn’t about what you or I believe it is about what can be proven in a court not a religious tribunal. How can one blaspheme Allah if no one can effectively prove he or any deity exists. It is an important conversation to be considered as some believe Canada to be a secular society however that secular society does recognize the supremacy of God without defining in the constitution which God exactly that is.
commented 2017-05-22 01:30:55 -0400
It is true… Either we hang together or we hang separately.!
commented 2017-05-22 01:08:04 -0400
I like Bill’s moral of the story,
“Moral of the story: Hide your assets, keep your mouth open and hang together or hand alone – this PC tyranny will only be broken when the Canadian people have had their sense of fairness offend to the point they do something about globalist despotism in the rule of law.”

If we hang together there will be so many cases they will not be able to keep up. I expect that if they manage to shut down the Rebel, it will be harder for us to ‘hang together’. Shutting down the Rebel would be their best first move. I don’t know if they would be able to do that though, especially now that the Rebel has grown so big and has international alternative media acknowledging them. I am hoping that we are too big to shut down.
I cannot believe that we are having this conversation.
commented 2017-05-22 00:27:14 -0400
Edward Joben… God is for the people who can understand the divine word.. just thinking that there is a God is not enough and if you actually believe that we evolved from green slime on a rock and then morphed from monkey to man well then maybe you’re right and some of you did. The Bible didn’t suddenly just appear like a man selling snake oil… the story of Christ is so powerful with witnesses from his time that the strength of it has carried up until very recently where every effort is being made to dismantle the believe in God so man will worship man and the almighty dollar… When we lived under God’s law we were at peace and we trusted our neighbors and as we watched man’s law supersede gods law we are witnessing and living the insanity when man believes he is capable of ruling another man and the planet.
Mans law equals slavery gods equals freedom.!
commented 2017-05-21 23:34:40 -0400
I can’t see how any court could uphold a blasphemy law when no one can prove God exists. Don’t get me wrong I do think the arguments for the existence of God are superior than those against but the only absolute proof would be if God walked into the court room personally in George Burn’s style and performed satisfactory parlour tricks which would unfortunately be eventually explained away as just that or if the entire court agreed to off themselves and agree to render a decision in the afterlife which would be of no benefit until they could devise a way to indisputably pass that verdict on to us still waiting on the other side. Until then all of our claims and visions and strongly felt religious feelings can be countered by others claiming similar revelations by competing deities. So how can a secular court decide which God is being blasphemed against if they can’t agree which one is the true one and if they can’t even prove he exists?
commented 2017-05-21 19:02:58 -0400
Look up the definition of the word goof.. it has trudeau written all over it..just his photo is missing.
commented 2017-05-21 18:27:36 -0400
Speaking of goofs..trudeau even has illegal immigrant goofs in his Cabinet of legal goofs getting paid to sit on their fat goof asses and receiving far more money than a Canadian Veteran!
commented 2017-05-21 18:24:07 -0400
Good for you Maurice and I support you in your endeavors… But however take those RRSP’s and convert them into gold and silver because Justin Trudeau has control over the value of our dollar and nobody has control over the value of gold and silver.. Our dollar intrinsically has zero value but no matter what and history has proven this that gold and silver I’ve never gone to zero in the international or national trading arena.
commented 2017-05-21 17:48:17 -0400
With the advent of M-103, I find myself in a very advantageous, and even enviable position. Financially, I don’t have anything that’s worth a damn thing. I drive a 1999 rusted-out Buick, and I have just over $10,000 in an RRSP, which I can quickly transfer to one of my siblings. So there’s nothing they can take away from me. I’m living exclusively on OAS and CPP. The only thing they can do to me is throw me in jail, where I will get free room and board, and free medical. So I will continue to speak the truth as I see it, regardless of what laws are passed, and do so fearlessly. I have far more to lose by remaining silent than anything they could possibly do to me for speaking up. On the day the Supreme Court ruled that the truth is not a defense, the Canadian justice system lost all legitimacy and credibility.
commented 2017-05-21 17:46:10 -0400
trudeau and his brainwashed/programmed liberal followers are goofs!.. a kangaroo court full of trudeau goofs.
commented 2017-05-21 17:24:39 -0400
Allah is a fag..!!
Allah is a pedophile.!!
Allah is a hypocrite.!!
Allah is a thief.!!
Allah is a liar.!!
Allah is a murderer.!!
Allah is not a God, he is an angel and he is the fallen one.!!
Mohammed was an illiterate and for Allah to choose him for the “book” strongly suggests Allah is also a bad judge of character.!!

Jamie McMaster… The HRC abhors paperwork as much as anybody else on a salary so the trick is to bury them in it, literally buried them in it with our own complaints and on our own behalf.!!
commented 2017-05-21 16:38:08 -0400
Jamie MacMaster commented – “The only down side of that LISA, is that making a complaint to the bastards, somehow legitimizes those HRC parasites.”

In a post M-103 Canada blasphemy will be officially revived, sectarian law reinstated – if the HRC refuses the claim because you are the wrong identity group to be offended in their narrow bigoted view, do a private prosecution under the existing Criminal Code Section 296 blasphemous libel. In a post M-103 political/legal climate the forces of sectarian and secular lawfare will descend on your case like buzzards on a gopher carcass and take it over, putting secular governance on trial in court and in the media – sit back with some popcorn and beer and watch the clown show.
commented 2017-05-21 16:25:47 -0400
liza Rosie commented – "Bill Elder, possibly yes, many of us could be next. <> they will just ruin most offenders by taking their assets, "

Absolutely Liza – this is how the oppressors of the working class and our dwindling rights/incomes, do business. This is why each new Political crime put in the criminal code has an option of the crown proceeding by indictment (jury trial/jail – expensive) or summary (cheap hearing and fines – profitable). You are ahead of the curve in cleverly hiding your assets from these rapacious authoritarian globalist swine

- prosecuting a broke unrepentant defendant of free speech will be an expensive proposition (trial, keeping you in jail, welfare on release, damage control on the negative PR) Prosecuting 1000s of broke unrepentant free speech defenders would be extremely expensive and pull financing from their migrant vote buying agenda.

Moral of the story: Hide your assets, keep your mouth open and hang together or hand alone – this PC tyranny will only be broken when the Canadian people have had their sense of fairness offend to the point they do something about globalist despotism in the rule of law.
commented 2017-05-21 16:04:30 -0400
“The first time a Muslim says ‘Jesus didn’t rise from the dead’ or even ‘Allah is the only one true God’ , is when I file my first complaint with HRC.”

The only down side of that LISA, is that making a complaint to the bastards, somehow legitimizes those HRC parasites. And we damn well know that when they rejected your complaint – as they surely would – there’d be no coverage (or at least no honest coverage) from the MSM.
commented 2017-05-21 15:42:22 -0400
After his speech, I am officially off the Trump train. God, bring on the apocalypse. We deserve it.
commented 2017-05-21 14:43:13 -0400
@ Maurice Potvin

I agree Maurice.

Evil is in this world because God allows people the free will to choose to commit evil acts or to follow Him.

He allows evil to continue because free will would be meaningless unless there were consequences of choosing evil over good. There are also consequence of choosing to do good. And those evil acts will end up affecting the innocent.

The whole argument for not accepting God because He allows evil to affect the innocent is a non sequitur if you realize people have free will.
commented 2017-05-21 13:59:35 -0400
Make no mistake, we will be in dire trouble if Justin isn’t removed at least on the next voting day.
commented 2017-05-21 13:56:14 -0400
Bill Elder, possibly yes, many of us could be next. I would say they had better start building more jails but they will just ruin most offenders by taking their assets, which is a consideration. Maybe some personal property safety measures would be prudent ahead of time. I don’t want there to be anything they could get their hands on, so they will be forced to put me in jail. Won’t that be a good look for a once free western country.
commented 2017-05-21 13:50:24 -0400
commented 2017-05-21 13:15:59 -0400
Great post Liza Rosie.
commented 2017-05-21 13:15:18 -0400
Wasn’t Draw Mohammad Day yesterday? I’m interested in seeing some the artwork!
Any resulting legislation from M-103 will certainly shut down this annual event.
commented 2017-05-21 13:09:34 -0400
Since 9/11 – IN THE NAME OF ISLAM (SATAN): 33,353 Attacks, 214,692 Killed, 295,723 Injured that we know of

Satan is currently the god of this world, and man has free will. Stephen Fry is free to reject God if he so chooses. If that wasn’t the case, and God interfered in all aspects of human life, we would be nothing but automatons.. robots that served God out of computer-like programming. We must be free to accept or reject him if our love is to be genuine. God did not create evil and sickness, but he does allow our choices to take their course. Otherwise, we would never have the opportunity to learn and grow spiritually. By the way, God is not the least intimidated by Stephen Fry’s rejection of him. That’s all on Stephen Fry. I agree completely with what Liza said.
commented 2017-05-21 12:32:52 -0400
I like your comment Liza Rosie. So true. Something tells me that they will go on saying violent and horrific things about us and our claims will go disregarded. Even when our young girls are treated as whores and groomed and assaulted. I feel M103 is intended to give islam teeth, not christians. We need to vote those creeps (Libs) out.
commented 2017-05-21 12:25:27 -0400
You have a good nose for news involving political subterfuge Dave. Fry’s trouble did not just appear out of thin air. Police do not launch investigations unless A) there is a complaint filed or B) because someone up the command chain ordered it – in this case an ancient dormant blasphemy law. Someone in government or in a special interest pressure group is testing the waters for the re-establishment of ancient intolerant sectarian legal assaults on free speech.

We In Canada are in more danger than the Irish because our ancient sectarian blasphemy law lies in the Criminal Code. Many Canadians are unaware that Canada continues to carry an anti-blasphemy law in the criminal code. Criminal Code Section 296 is the law which has remained on Canadian books since 1892. Blasphemy laws are, by their very design, contrary to the idea of secularism – the separation of church and religion from the state and laws which govern people.

Canada’s Criminal Code Section 296 – - – “296. (1) Every one who publishes a blasphemous libel is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years”

Popular legal opinion holds that a successful application of blasphemous libel is unlikely. Repeatedly, however, civil rights lawyers have indicated that this law is “sleeping, not dead”. Canadians need only observe that we now have religious leaders and authorities who are eager to support laws which would place them and their beliefs beyond criticism or satire. Religious leaders and religious fundamentalists seeking the privilege of exemption from criticism and scrutiny is to be questioned. There is also a need to be separate hate speech, which is an essential part of modern law from blasphemy.

It happened to Steven Fry, will you or the Rebel media be next?
commented 2017-05-21 12:21:54 -0400
Great to see that Free Speech is alive and well in Ireland.
Some day when Trudeau and his Muslim Cabinet are “Gone”, Free Speech will return to Canada. Unfortunately it will get worse before Freedom Loving Canadians unite and force the enforcement of the old laws back on to the books.
commented 2017-05-21 11:17:51 -0400
Liza the only problem with that idea is that the HRC picks and chooses its battles. That’s why they always win.