March 22, 2015

Broadcaster: Those "spearheading" opposition to new Ontario sex-ed curriculum are "rooted in homophobia;" Levin "had nothing to do with" its contents

Marissa SemkiwArchive

Parent Christina Liu and broadcaster John Downs join me for a debate about the new Ontario sex-ed program.

The Liberals insist that the controversial new Ontario sex-ed curriculum will be implemented in the fall "regardless of opposition" from parents.

Parent Christina Liu hopes this won't be the case. She says the program isn't age appropriate. For example, in Grade 3, children will learn about same-sex relationships.

Broadcaster John Downs says parents who oppose the curriculum are "hyping" the content," and in many cases are motivated by homophobia. He says children aren't receiving specific instructions on how to perform certain sexual acts.

I raise the troubling prospect that former Deputy Education Minister Benjamin Levin, who was recently convicted on child pornography charges, had influenced the curriculum's content.

Downs counters that Levin "had nothing to do with" the content, but an exclusive investigation raises doubts about that assertion.

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commented 2015-03-25 00:57:59 -0400
One of the problems of homosexuality is that it gets lonely when the homosexual gets older. The danger is that the curriculum will lure children into homosexuality.
commented 2015-03-23 23:27:11 -0400
Well Ron…I did my little part last week. I forwarded Marissa’s interview on the niqab to CBC Power and Politics and suggested they air it and perhaps could then stop talking about it!!!
Yes, we are very greatful for The Rebel. media, thanks to Ezra and Brian.
commented 2015-03-23 20:42:58 -0400
By the way Gals & Guys. Remember to make a point of telling all your family & friends (& enemies) about As far as I know, this is the ‘only’ remaining platform bringing fair, factual & non-liberal biased programming to everyday Canadians. That’s one internet entity against “all” the broadcast ‘big guys’.
The Rebel’s bravely punchin’ above their weight Div. against the ‘consensus gang that is waiting & salivating to see it, the rebel, go down!
I’m doing my very small part to bend the ear of anyone that will listen.
commented 2015-03-23 19:28:15 -0400
that should read printed word not world.
commented 2015-03-23 18:25:08 -0400
Joan you still have nothing intelligent to say. Attacking me personally by calling you out for supporting all of this perversion is not addressing the lgbt obvious agenda here. What, there is a handful of gay people so all children need to be taught about this bs? What is the real purpose of this? Tell me John, er I mean Joan. And your rants that this is training kids about child abuse? Give me a break. Tell me what is so good and educational about it? Why do small innocent children need to be taught all of this? What are the good points about it? Do I hear the sound of crickets in response? Or are you going to call me homophobia/gay basher names again and tell me how offended you are? And why do you tell people to “listen” to the printed world?
commented 2015-03-23 18:21:25 -0400
I would say that Joan Abernathy has a bad case of slurphobia.
commented 2015-03-23 17:38:22 -0400
Kathleen Wynn, is a sexual Deviant, and is a very bad role model for our young people,, I don’t say this to be hateful, I make this statement as a Bible believing Christian. the Lifestyle she is portraying in public, is intelectually Disordered, and intrinsic Evil. Read Romans 1:1-32. If I had the opportunity to have Children, I certainly would not allow, a sexual degeneerate influencwe them.
commented 2015-03-23 16:36:28 -0400
Wynne’s claim that those opposing this curriculum are rooted by homophobia is a tactic used by and for gay politics dating back a few decades now.

I saw this tactic used many times in the 80s in Vancouver claiming homophobia in the workplace (particularly Federal government departments) if there was any disagreement, a job wasn’t assigned to or an unfavourable appraisal was written for someone gay or lesbian; both gay and lesbian employees usually made the claim that sexual discrimination and homophobia was the reason.

This was common practice and part of the gay political agenda. It is therefore not at all surprising that Wynne is using and perpetuating this very tactic to manipulate the media and voters.
commented 2015-03-23 15:51:15 -0400
I was hoping that when Sun news Media closed the doors, they’d leave this clown. Downs, sitting on the curb wondering where everyone went. I fully understand having contrasting opinions, otherwise there’s no point in ‘debating’ the issues, but Downs, being an ‘ultra whacko liberal brings only progressive garbage to the table. The “vast” majority of Canadians, regardless of political persuasion, would slam his perverted points of view on this ’sex-ed’ program being forced on young kids that are ‘way too young to be involved in this idiocy.
And what entitles young socialist school teachers to even bring up this garbage topic in the classroom. It’s the responsibility of Mom & Dad, ‘if and when’ they think the kids are ready.
Downs, leave him sitting in the bus depot trading lunacy with his fellow crazies.
I truly have pity for the parents & kids with this insane government they elected.
commented 2015-03-23 14:36:06 -0400
Well done, as usual Marissa. Unfortunately, John Downs has never really had anything to say that is worth listening to.

The question here folks is how do we stop the curriculum and Wynne?

The poor kids who will be exposed to all this new and detailed information presented to them in this new curriculum won’t know if they’re straight, gay or what. If girls hold hands, or want to hold hands because they are friends, will they now think they are lesbians? Will boys who pat each others behinds, or want to do so, consider themselves gay for doing so; is this foreplay for anal sex? Primarily because these innocent actions and a genuine display of affection could possibly lead to some of the ‘misguided information’ that the curriculum is presenting. Simply too much information for kids to assimilate
Perhaps the new curriculum should be teaching these children how NOT to have sex, eg. how to say no to hooking up or to freely providing and expecting oral sex. How to communicate and respect the differences instead of knowing how to conduct these sexual acts. It is important they know about and understand the dangers of STDs and HIV, oral cancer and how these are contracted. But not particularly the detailed steps involved how to do it to get the STDs etc.

The teachers ‘teaching’ this revised sex-ed are, in many cases, young people themselves. They are not psychologists nor are they trained in this area. Why isn’t every parent and grandparent speaking up about this?

Our society is messed up enough as it is about sex…now the children will be too. Despite how knowledgeable people think kids are today…they are still only children.
How is Wynne stopped?
(Levin vs Flanagan: Those who can do, those who say you can, teach)
commented 2015-03-23 13:57:28 -0400
Ron, the OED also defines “phobia” as an “aversion”. I think it’s meant in that sense.
commented 2015-03-23 13:17:14 -0400
A lot of things, such as, one’s sexual identity, seem fluid in today’s ‘progressive’ world, even the meaning of words. Let’s look more closely at the word, “homophobia”, and those deemed as possessing such and called “homophobes”, a pejorative thrown out to close off any debate or discussion related to human sexuality. According to the Mayo Clinic, “a phobia is an overwhelming and unreasonable fear of an object or situation that poses little real danger but provokes anxiety and avoidance”. There is a website on the web which collects the names of various phobias. At last count there are about 530. Some of the most common phobias include: arachnophobia (fear of spiders), claustrophobia (fear of confined spaces), agoraphobia (fear of open spaces and public places), and social phobia (fear of social situations). So what’s with “homophobia”, which in the context of homosexuality, would mean an “unreasonable fear” of homosexuality? Really? Is that what people are deemed to have when they question the nature and age-appropriateness of a government-imposed explicit sex-ed program that regards children as being sexual from birth? That constitutes an unreasonable and irrational fear?
Similarly, increasingly we hear the tern “Islamophobia”, which still has not made it to “the phobia list”: I guess the author of the list never received the memo.
Islamophobia, being a phobia, then would mean an unreasonable and irrational fear of Islam. I don’t think so! Folks, given all that we know about Islam and its prescripts contained in its core religious texts, the Qu’aran and the Hadith, evidence of which we see in the escalating jihadist terrorism around the world, it very much IS reasonable and justifiable to be afraid. In fact, that is the whole objective of their campaign of “terrorism” isn’t it?
commented 2015-03-23 10:05:19 -0400
I’m reminded of a story told to me by a retired Major in the forces training division. What’s the difference between education and training? Well if your 14 year old daughter came home and said she had sex training at school you would be shocked, if she said she had sex education you would be happy. This new material feels a lot like training (desensitization, action planning, etc…) than education risks, rewards, and cautions.
commented 2015-03-23 10:03:24 -0400
Joan and Cathy,
If via this sex an education curriculum the intent is to normalize homosexuality by nurturing an atmosphere of tolerance then is it not also logically assume that the intent is to condone anal sexual intercourse? If this is indeed the case and I believe that it is, then I would assume that the educators would be upfront and honest with these children and inform them that there are intrinsic physiological differences between the lining of the rectum and that of the vagina. Structurally they are completely different, one is designed for expulsion of waste the other the mechanic of intercourse. The science is irrefutable; in other words it is a question of natural versus unnatural. A failure to make that distinction and to suggest that there is such a thing as safe anal intercourse would be completely irresponsible.

If one wishes to believe they are homosexual then so be it, that is their choice. Unfortunately the gay community has crossed the line by lobbying and demanding that the public education system normalize their behavior. They have created the worst possible scenario for themselves by challenging the role that parents play in the upbringing of their children.
Hopefully a civilized Christian atmosphere will prevail and governments will curtail in their endeavor to shove its agenda down people’s throats.
commented 2015-03-23 09:22:40 -0400
John Downs just plain creeps me out. He epitomizes everything that is wrong with the Progs. Staring down his prissy little nose at everyone that doesn’t embrace his perverted views.
commented 2015-03-23 07:27:39 -0400
The video clip the site links to claims to provide “proof” of Ben Levin’s involvement in the new Ontario sexual education curriculum, said proof being a string of emails the “Rebels” provide as evidence. I’ve reviewed the emails; they don’t have anything at all to do with the curriculum. Can someone point me whatever email in that string is supposed to constitute the “evidence”?
commented 2015-03-23 02:17:24 -0400
John Downs – so sorry to see that he is on the Rebel. Really thought we/I would be rid of him and his asinine ideas when Sun News folded.
It is too bad you guys at the
Rebel have brought him along.
commented 2015-03-23 01:32:54 -0400
Cathy – your slur “bunch of weirdo freaks” constitutes gay bashing.

As does calling me John – a slur on my gender/sexuality/character.

Then you also slur my intelligence.

How old are you that you cannot yet reason but can only throw your poo?
commented 2015-03-23 01:20:08 -0400
Freethinker, Freud also said all police are latent homosexuals. True, therefore?

Listen. Freud initially said all the symptoms of mental dis-ease or distress could be relieved if only the power abusers of the victims who were his patients stopped abusing them physically, sexually, psychologically and financially.

Unfortunately for Freud, the abusers of his patients were also the funders of his research and when they threatened to withdraw his funding, Freud had an epiphany that led to his blame-the-victim classification of mental disorders.

Not only biology can be relied on to classify but also psychology on the basis of which much research, analysis and argument has been made that homosexuality is not a mental disorder – that is, the homosexual desire does not originate in the mind but in the groin.

Scientists believe that to the extent homosexuality is a worthy subject for research, it is so only in the fields of biology, genetics, anatomy and other physical sciences, not in the field of psychiatry which is just the province of those with both an ordinary medical degree plus a social science degree in behavioural sciences (Skinner, rats, Pavlov). Psychiatrists control and change behaviour with drugs. That is why they need the medical degree, so they can prescribe drugs. Science has shown that homosexuality cannot be fixed, cured, healed or otherwise manipulated into straight with drugs.

Philosophical ethics is still open on the issue, as it is – or should always be – on all issues.
commented 2015-03-23 01:01:40 -0400
Cathy Mossholder, are you saying it is okay for teachers to discuss anal sex with girls? Why is it not okay only with boys?
commented 2015-03-23 00:58:29 -0400
So … if a 12year-old and his 11year-old friend tell his sister she can play with them only if she lets them insert some play dough or a leggo piece into her rectum, what should she say? That sort of dilemma is common among children. Kids do stuff like that. Lots of younger siblings will comply just so they can play. But is it okay? Is it sexual? Is this how kids learn about consent, sex roles and power?
commented 2015-03-23 00:37:40 -0400
Simple exposure subconsciously tells kids it’s ok (contrary to some parent’s wishes) and gets them “curious”, thereby promoting it. This whole notion of simply being “informative” is pure bunk, a sales pitch – and not a convincing one!! Women having a girlfriend on the side, has become quite popular the last 10yrs. Why?? Cause it’s promoted on TV, that’s why! TV makes it ok, and gets gals curious – same as this indoctrination program for kids. The Left is smitten with Alfred Kinsey, and, as I’ve noted previously, are intent on moving society in that direction. BTW, you can read about Alfred in the book; Intellectual Morons
commented 2015-03-22 23:54:21 -0400
You know, this makes me angry because EVERY SECOND SPENT on this topic takes away from learning to read, write and conjure. It would be much more beneficial to anyone of any stripe to learn to think for themselves than be taught to understand the vagaries of love and the mechanics that go into it.
Why is it that the western world needs to spend so much time indoctrinating its youth rather than teaching them the basic skills of good citizenry? Don’t you think they will come to understand their own sexuality by themselves if you give them the skills to think for themselves? Arggg… Teach the children to read!
commented 2015-03-22 23:40:25 -0400
That was one of the best interviews I have seen in a long time!
Being the mother of one straight man and one gay man I can tell you that BOTH OF THEM would have become disturbed to be in a classroom in 7th grade where this was being discussed.
This is about the adults and their perverted mindset. These people REFUSE to let children find their own way.
And, whoever that man was in the interview that thought “anal sex” should be discussed in 7th grade he clearly doesn’t have any male children or, he is just an idiot. He has no idea what the emotional damage is he is causing.
commented 2015-03-22 23:00:40 -0400
According to the American Psychiatric Association, until 1974 homosexuality was a mental illness. Freud had alluded to homosexuality numerous times in his writings, and had concluded that paranoia and homosexuality were inseparable. Other psychiatrists wrote copiously on the subject, and homosexuality was “treated” on a wide basis. There was little or no suggestion within the psychiatric community that homosexuality might be conceptualized as anything other than a mental illness that needed to be treated. And, of course, homosexuality was listed as a mental illness in DSM-II. (The DSM – Diagnostic and Statistical Manual – is the APA’s standard classification of their so-called mental disorders, and is used by many mental health workers in the USA and other countries.) Then in 1970 gay activists protested against the APA convention in San Francisco. These scenes were repeated in 1971, and as people came out of the “closet” and felt empowered politically and socially, the APA directorate became increasingly uncomfortable with their stance. In 1973 the APA’s nomenclature task force recommended that homosexuality be declared normal. The trustees were not prepared to go that far, but they did vote to remove homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses by a vote of 13 to 0, with 2 abstentions. This decision was confirmed by a vote of the APA membership, and homosexuality was no longer listed in the seventh edition of DSM-II, which was issued in 1974. What’s noteworthy about this is that the removal of homosexuality from the list of mental illnesses was not triggered by some scientific breakthrough. There was no new fact or set of facts that stimulated this major change. Rather, it was the simple reality that gay people started to kick up a fuss. They gained a voice and began to make themselves heard. So all the people who had this terrible “illness” were “cured” overnight – by a vote! HOMOSEXUALITY WAS ONLY REMOVED FROM THE LIST OF MENTAL ILLNESSES BECAUSE OF POLITICAL PRESSURE !!! Sound familiar ?
commented 2015-03-22 22:33:27 -0400
John Downs isn’t even a parent, just like this mother is who has a child in the school system, so his opinion isn’t even valid b/c he can’t put himself in a parent’s position. But thank you, anyway, Marissa for having opinions from both sides discussed here-as usual, we can see the confusion of the typical left such as Mr. Downs.
commented 2015-03-22 22:13:55 -0400
It’s too bad they don’t have a thumbs up or down choice on a post so we can show our support for the poster or our disagreement
Also a drop down reply to the poster would be nice so we can insert some views ,or add to the comments with some of our own,or as a like to do ,say in words,my agreement with the comment
I think it would lead to a much livelier debate.
Right now if i want to respond to someone’s post ,they would never see it, it could be 20 posts away.
It seems many like posting so if it was a little more interactive it would be more interesting
commented 2015-03-22 21:25:14 -0400
So, if what is going to be taught actually contravenes the Criminal Code, how many Ontario parents are willing to take ALL parties (teachers, administrators, MPPs, and even the Premier herself) to task and have criminal charges laid? Do you honestly think anything will be done until charges are laid? There has been a lot of anger posted (justifiably, I grant you) but what will you, the parents in Ontario, DO about it? Words are cheap, virtually meaningless, and full of air… as any politician will attest.
commented 2015-03-22 20:35:22 -0400
The people of Toronto were fully aware of her plans during the election and opted to give her a majority government , which she will use to implement every plank of her sick socialist agenda, including taking over the minds of your children with this rot. And what of your “rights” as parents ? Well in a socialist world, you have no rights and retain only the liberty that is authorized by the ruling Liberals. Rash statement? Hardly.
commented 2015-03-22 19:58:23 -0400
It’s all about teaching the left’s ideas about sexuality (with all the moral degeneracy which that often entails) to children at as young an age as possible, in order to raise a new generation that will be indoctrinated in their beliefs. Ontario is the first province to be subjected to this, but it won’t be the last. Canada is in big trouble.