April 05, 2017

UPDATE: Asking more tough questions about agenda-driven gun violence study

Brian LilleyArchive

When the Canadian Medical Association Journal published a “study” from the Institute for Clinical Evaluative Sciences asserting a child or youth is killed or injured by a firearm every day in Ontario I was shocked, concerned.

If true, that would be horrible, something we should all be concerned about, but it isn’t really true.

I showed last week that the study not only includes anyone up to age 25 but they also include BB guns, air soft and paintball guns in their definition of firearm.

I repeatedly asked for more details like, how many in the 15-24 year-old age group were over the age of 18 and by definition adults? How many injuries were from BB guns, airsoft or paintball rather than actual firearms?

After receiving a complaint from a member of the public about the lack of data and transparency, the researchers released a breakdown of injury by type of firearm and nearly half of all the unintentional injuries were from BB guns.

Watch as I break it down for you and give you a more accurate picture of unintentional injuries by handguns.

This matters because those behind the study and those using the results to devise guidelines, are all groups whose names carry a lot of weight and this study would have most people believe we have a firearms problem when we don’t.

The study also called for storage regulations and restricting ownership while calling the “firearms” injuries preventable which makes me think they don’t know what Canada’s gun storage laws are, or what it takes to get a licence.

I think they used the study to push an agenda. They haven’t released a breakdown of how many of those injured are 18 or older. Doing so might destroy the narrative, pushed by media and encouraged by this study, that little Johnny's getting injured because he found daddy’s loaded handgun out on the counter.

While we may hear stories like that from elsewhere, it’s not common in Canada and is in fact illegal.

If anything, this study proves we don’t have a gun problem in Canada, and don’t need to change the laws to make them stricter unless it’s decided we need a BB gun registry to stop men in their 20s from shooting each other.

It’s important Canadians know the truth so this study isn't used to support more gun control when Trudeau and his Liberals finally unveil their plans.

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commented 2017-04-06 16:30:38 -0400
Another reason we need a really competent and invested conservative to take Trudeau to task.
commented 2017-04-06 09:09:42 -0400
I read in the Hill Times that rural Liberal MPs are deeply worried about the changes the Liberals will be making to the firearms act this spring – if they are hearing rumors that “worry” them and they fear for their seats , then we will see another round of unjustified confiscations and bans through reclassification.

The complete Trudeau BS about “getting handguns and assault weapons off the streets” should have been an indicator they intend to further criminalize lawful responsible owners with more draconian laws. Seeing how there are no lawfully owned firearms allowed “on the street” as carry permits are not issued here, and that “assault weapons” (select fire auto guns) have been banned for over 40 years (and these are never used in street crime because they are too expensive for thugs to buy and too hard to get), one can only conclude that to accomplish what he has stated Trudeau will use the classification system to move handguns from restricted status to prohibited and move self-loading long guns from unrestricted to restricted.

Doing this will in effect create a backdoor registry as all these registered guns are called for confiscation and the newly restricted guns must be registered (for future confiscation) Trudeau has essentially lied to the public again when he said he would not create a registry or damage lawful firearms owners.

The sick part of this is there is no constitutionally justifiably for this as legal handguns are not involved in crime and self-loading carbines are never used in crime – this is done purely as a placebo to left wing special interest groups – and as a vindictive slap in the face to law-abiding firearms owners.

The reaction to the last liberal gun laws was a conservative government elected to repealing them – the political consequences to renewed draconian gun laws will come much swifter in the next election
commented 2017-04-06 01:14:36 -0400
Canadians are probably a bit bewildered when the Rebel reporting makes light of child deaths by guns in the United States. For one thing, this is Canada! We hope, and actually have the statistics to back it up, that children are rarely killed in Canada by hand-guns.

In the United States, on average, a child is accidentally killed by a firearm every 48 hours. Most of these deaths are accidents, when a child simply picks up the firearm in the home and shoots himself or a child playmate and that gunshot results in death.

A good report on this is in USA Today: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/10/14/ap-usa-today-gun-accidents-children/91906700/
commented 2017-04-05 23:16:48 -0400
Brian, you see where this is going don’t you – this is the type of fabricated justification liberals and police politicians use to justify more convoluted entrapment regulations to the firearms act – the police state has been after air guns for ever, – since I was a kid there was always some dower scolding nanny-cop fear mongering about kids and air guns – Brian they are NOT firearms but the police-state bureaucrats are concocting some treacherous plan to include air guns in the firearms control bureaucracy.

This is NOT a public health issue, it is a control freak bureaucracy issue – bureaucrats and special interest camp followers looking for make work projects to expand the nanny state.

This is just a display of what the “tyranny of clerks” does – fabricate and fear monger then use the ensuing hysteria to regulate/tax/ban/fine – The guy wh wrote hitch hikers guide to the galaxy nailed it when he depicted anti-intellectual obsessed bureaucrats as the vogons.
commented 2017-04-05 23:16:38 -0400
Brian, you see where this is going don’t you – this is the type of fabricated justification liberals and police politicians use to justify more convoluted entrapment regulations to the firearms act – the police state has been after air guns for ever, – since I was a kid there was always some dower scolding nanny-cop fear mongering about kids and air guns – Brian they are NOT firearms but the police-state bureaucrats are concocting some treacherous plan to include air guns in the firearms control bureaucracy.

This is NOT a public health issue, it is a control freak bureaucracy issue – bureaucrats and special interest camp followers looking for make work projects to expand the nanny state.

This is just a display of what the “tyranny of clerks” does – fabricate and fear monger then use the ensuing hysteria to regulate/tax/ban/fine – The guy wh wrote hitch hikers guide to the galaxy nailed it when he depicted anti-intellectual obsessed bureaucrats as the vogons.
commented 2017-04-05 22:57:14 -0400
Note to The Rebel. Why don’t you get the Menzoid to do an on the street interview asking people how they think you buy a gun. I’m sure the answers would be most revealing. Then we could send it to all our lefty associates to show what dunderheads they are.
commented 2017-04-05 22:53:32 -0400
Oh, oh, oh, Mr Bigshot. Handguns, eh. Fresh fruit not good enough, eh?
commented 2017-04-05 21:03:23 -0400
CANADIAN MONGREL you raise a good point from a different perspective. “Note that one of the recommendations from the study is for family physicians to council families with firearms about health and welfare of their children.” I have been a shooter since I was 13. On part of “Gun Safety” we were always taught was to never disclose I was a firearms owner to people who don’t need to know. My medical professionals don;t need to know this, so the hell disclose it? I won’t, neither should anyone else – it’s simply not their business. It’s my personal private business. Ask me that questions, I’ll ask you one “how may times a week do you masturbate?” Oh, you think that’s personal? What you’re asking is equally to me, so get out of my personal business.
commented 2017-04-05 19:53:07 -0400
Note that one of the recommendations from the study is for family physicians to council families with firearms about health and welfare of their children. Now, back in the day when intelligence prevailed, even among M/D’s, children learned to use firearms as the tool they are, as taught by parents. So what we have in this study is not just a call for firearm control, but for control of family by the State.
commented 2017-04-05 19:46:30 -0400
This is unbelievable! Releasing false statements and creating hysteria. This from a medical association is sickening! These agendas need to be stopped. Absolutely deplorable LIES!!!
commented 2017-04-05 19:34:52 -0400
Trudeau wants the Civilian Population disarmed, it will make the Jihad so much easier.
commented 2017-04-05 17:05:54 -0400
Peter Netterville that word has to be the utmost in profanity these days.
commented 2017-04-05 16:41:07 -0400
Here comes the fake data and fake victims for Turdos gun grab. Billions will be spent on a new registry.
The original gun registry was supposed to cost 300 million it cost billions. The information was so insecure it led the thieves giving all the information of gun owners address, type amount. OF COURSE THE CRIMINALS DID NOT REGISTER THEIR GUNS. One of the companies like FEDx could move billions of packages around the world but could not understand why is would cost 2 Billion just to register 30 million guns. Make criminals out of honest people while going soft on gangs and thugs.
It took Calgary/Canada nine years to get rid of non citizen Jacky Tran not his real name. He even argued in court he was the sole provider (drug dealer) for the rest of his family here illegally of course.
Best thing Harper cancelled the gun registry.
Did you know the Liberals gave the vote to hard core prisoners. The tough on crime approach from the conservatives caused them to loose to the jail vote in prison locations.
Turdo will do anything for votes.
commented 2017-04-05 16:39:54 -0400
This study borders on the fraudulent. The CMA should be ashamed that they published such a load of rubbish.
commented 2017-04-05 16:23:13 -0400
Brain, you should not be using those nasty four letter words swearing at the anti-gun haters … “fact”.

The anti-gun crowd play off of emotion, facts be damned.