March 27, 2017

Paediatric Society calls for greater gun control based on flawed study

Brian LilleyArchive

Some of Canada’s doctors are getting political, calling not only for greater gun control but for your child’s doctor to pry into your personal life and lecture law abiding gun owners.

A new paper published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal brings to mind a saying a teacher introduced me to when I submitted a poorly written essay, “if you can’t baffle them with brains, baffle them with BS.”

The paper entitled “Risk of firearm injuries among children and youth of immigrant families”, contains some interesting facts and observations about gun injuries - who gets them, immigrant compared to refugee, immigrant compared to non-immigrant, etc..

But, as you read the report and the accompanying media coverage, you quickly realize what this study is really about - pushing for more gun control. Watch as I show you why. 

What’s in the study is being sold as kids playing with guns, but the facts tell a different story.

The fact is, we already have legislation restricting gun ownership, a licensing system and strict storage laws.

We all want fewer deaths from guns just like we want fewer deaths from disease and car accidents but scaring people and turning doctors into people that pry into our personal lives while treating our children, is not the way to go.

I don’t think the Canadian Paediatric Society coming out with these guidelines for members at the same time this flawed study came out was a coincidence. Do you?

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commented 2017-04-01 18:59:35 -0400
I find this report is interesting, so say the least. To that end, I will comment on an instance that took place with my children and myself. I had four children — 1 boy and 3 girls. All were familiar with my firearms and, in those days I had a fair number — all types, shapes, and sizes — with the exception of fully automatic firearms. My handguns were in a china cabinet, unlocked (except for the little lock that was built into the door). One evening there was knock on the door and when I opened the door there were two men standing there. I recognized one of them as a policeman on the local force but did not know the other. It was the ‘other’ that I found interesting as he advised me very sternly that they were there to inspect my restricted firearms. This was something new to me, but I invited them in and told them to do whatever they wanted, as long as they replaced the firearms where they took them from. After the ‘inspection’ and verification was over, and they were satisfied (I thought) the one who was a tad rude said that he did not think it was wise of me to have my handguns stored that way — particularly with 4 children in the house. At that moment I told my second oldest girl to: “Bring that gentleman my .45 automatic and field strip it before you hand it to him.” She did so and he took it in his hands and sat there looking at it and said, “What is this for?” I responded by saying, “You are upset that I have these handguns in a location where they are available to my children. All of my children know the firearms are there and each of them is fully familiar with them and, if and when they wish to take one out and examine it, they may do so, if they ask. You are sitting there, a trained police officer, with a .45 Colt in your hands and a very puzzled look. I asked her to hand you that firearm so you could examine and put it back together, at which time she would accept it and place it back where she got it. Now you sit there with no idea in the world what to do with that firearm and you say you are upset that my kids have access to them. Doesn’t that shame you just a bit?”
For some reason, without a word he got up and left the house, followed by the second officer who had a very slight smile on his face. Thought this might be of some interest to you, Brian. Best to all at Rebel.
commented 2017-03-29 19:51:49 -0400
If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit. (Is the phrase I learned). I’d like to know how many of these shootings were caused by First Nations since they have less restrictions
commented 2017-03-29 14:41:09 -0400
Is it not interesting that doctors are being encouraged to question children whose parents own guns. Then brow beat the parent.

Let me see, are these the same doctors that are now allowed to practise or endorse Euthanasia?

Is this sponsored by the same leftests that supported the Euthanasia Bill. Soon there shall be more deaths due to hospital neglect & Euthanasia among the elderly than youths being killed by guns.

I am just so glad that the same welfare system that allows patients in Seniors home to sit in their own filth for up to 12 hours or highers a nurse without proper screening. This then results in the “untimely death of our seniors”.

Boy, I am so comforted by the “concern our health care system & government has for our safety”. Nice to know they are on the job protecting us tax payers. Well done Leftists! We need more of you! Not!
commented 2017-03-28 21:17:06 -0400
GLENN CRAIG, cheers and thank you. I know I’m not alone, in fact, on my parenting views, I’m the clear majority. Rhetorically, when is the silent majority going to STAND UP against the tyranny of the fringe? I no longer have any fear. I’ve been threatened with being arrested, having my child taken, of assault. Sorry – I learned history and know these Nazi techniques – it won’t work on me. One in particular is waiting to change the parenting laws so they can have me arrested … Nice people, don’t you think? Anyway. I believe, as you likely do, that we are ALL responsible to protect freedom and democracy. No one else will do it, if we don’t. There is no one else. we’re it. I call to Action everyone to take something personally important to them, one important issue, and fight like hell. Start something. I did here because that’s what mattes to me … Don’t agree? fine, you fight your battles – I’ll fight for mine. Silence is Consent.
commented 2017-03-28 15:22:45 -0400
What a bullshit study. Its definition of children and youths is anyone under the age of 24…so that includes the majority of the gang members who are getting popped in our urban centers. 49 in Toronto last year, 29 dead in Ottawa (don’t know how many injured)….add all our other cities to the list, and you have explained away what, at first glance, appears to be a shocking statistic. To portray a gun-toting member of Ottawa’s Somali gangs as an “at risk” child from an immigrant community – as if the injuries were sustained by accident or unfamiliarity – is simply dishonest.
commented 2017-03-28 13:50:38 -0400
These are all warning shots over the bow that the pirates of parliament intend boarding and looting the lawful firearms owning community – this time there will be large legal repercussions and a demand to show cause.
commented 2017-03-28 07:55:54 -0400
The C.B.C.has the most far left loons .
commented 2017-03-28 03:23:11 -0400
The Workplace Death rate in Canada is 6 TIMES the Canadian rate of homicide by firearms.
Someone is shot with any kind of gun and it is National headline news
Someone dies in the workplace and it barely makes local reportage -
Yup Doctors need to speak out about the high rate of unregulated work for 16-24 year olds -
commented 2017-03-28 03:21:05 -0400
And need one be reminded… Those innocent children shot by the “cross-fire” of gang violence in south and Eastside Chicago in the past 8 years were not all killed by “immigrants”… Reality begins at home… South Chicago or Weston or Rexdale, Ontario
commented 2017-03-28 03:17:31 -0400
More Fake News. Gang bangers shooting one another doesn’t count. And punks firing guns on the street with illegal firearms don’t count. And what the hell are all these immigrants doing owning firearms? Are they recent arrivals? Doesn’t say, does it? How many injuries/deaths are caused by a firearm that is legally owned and licensed? When they include adults as part of the study that they refer to as children, they must mean like those refugee children that are thought to be in their twenties and are enrolled in schools with real children. This study is just more Liberal lies to create a crisis, mostly by misrepresentation of the facts.
commented 2017-03-28 02:08:18 -0400
No, Ron, you were right the first time.
commented 2017-03-28 01:46:48 -0400
Correction Almost every day
commented 2017-03-28 01:44:28 -0400
Yeah we need more gun control so kids can be safer like in Chicago.
commented 2017-03-28 01:44:04 -0400
The CBC reported that a child suffers a gunshot injury every day in Ontario. I find it very strange that I very seldom read child gun shot injury stories in the news. You would think these incidents would warrant more news coverage if it happens daily. The only thing the CBC reports on every day (at nauseam) is the life and times of Donald Trump.
commented 2017-03-27 23:24:10 -0400
Great Report Brian, thank-you! You did miss one important point however, this follows the standard Lefty modus operandi. Write a fake report, to be blasted by the media and then demand change. It is no different from Climate Change or the fake report in The Globe about sexual assaults, or fake reports about “light pollution”, or fake reports about GMF’s, or any other number of fake reports. I blame the authors for pulling such stunts, but I also blame the msm, as they could’ve disseminated this just as well as you did, but chose to be lazy and just run with it, and mislead the public in the process.
commented 2017-03-27 22:46:29 -0400
Art asked, “We can’t have that, who’d be left to vote liberal?”

Art! Shame on you! You are not suggesting it is the criminals that vote for the Libranos, are you? ;o)
commented 2017-03-27 22:42:19 -0400
It makes it easier for the overtake of Islam if the public is disarmed.

For instance, which place is easier for Islam to become dominant; Sweden or Texas?
commented 2017-03-27 22:41:22 -0400
It’s almost as if they are scared that a bunch of principled, law abiding, Christian people armed with guns might start blowing away drug addled, criminal scum who threaten their families or property. We can’t have that, who’d be left to vote liberal?
commented 2017-03-27 22:39:45 -0400
The anti-gun activists use any and all platforms to push their agenda and they will not be happy until they have completely disarmed and “defanged” the unwashed masses.
commented 2017-03-27 22:39:16 -0400
The Canadian Paediatric Society, et al, might want to ponder the idea of throwing stones in glass houses…

- APA: Classifying pedophilia as a ‘sexual orientation’ was an ‘error’
After a national backlash from social conservatives, the American Psychiatric Association (ASA) has dropped its designation of pedophilia as a “sexual orientation.”
In May, the APA released the Fifth Edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5). In this document, the first new edition in 10 years, the APA described pedophilia as a sexual “orientation.”
The classification went largely unnoticed until last month, when the NeonTommy blog of the Annenberg Digital News at the University of Southern California published a blog post critical of the terminology.
Social conservatives said calling pedophilia an “orientation” was a step towards normalizing pedophiliac behavior.
But within days, the APA changed the classification, noting in a press release “’Sexual orientation’ is not a term used in the diagnostic criteria for pedophilic disorder and its use in the DSM-5 text discussion is an error and should read ’sexual interest.’”

Yeah, uh huh, until the next time they try it…they were successful with the same tactics applied to ‘normalizing’ homosexuality…

It’s for the children.
commented 2017-03-27 22:19:55 -0400
Yep, I guess Globalist-Trudeau and his GUN-GRABBIN’ plans are going to manifest themselves here real soon. It’s going to come at us from all sides. For example: next it could be people on antidepressants. Do you have any idea how many people are on antidepressants in Canada!
I wonder how we’ll hear about all the SWAT raids on residential homes for ‘gun-related-crimes’, since you will NOT hear about it in the Media Party – unless it’s spun into unrecognition…and you know they’ve got their sights on THEREBEL
Take the example of Osama O’bumbler and his Democrat-gun-grabbin’-goons in the US, and how many inroads they made against Constitutional rights and protections – and America has the 2nd Amendment! Among other things, what they did to returning vets was – heinous!
Yep, it’s comin’ alright…

I wonder if the authors of that paper published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal would like to come to my home and try and take my guns…or explain to me why they think they have the right!
commented 2017-03-27 22:03:50 -0400
It’s quite funny that such a racist and islamamophobic Study would be promoted by the Lame Stream Media… “Police know 95% of gun crime is committed by less than 10% of the population and largely a matter of ethnic gang culture. No amount of lying fake medical studies will change that fact.” This is not about “facts”, it’s about an agenda. And just how many of the guns used by “ethnic gang culture” were smuggled across the US Canada border? How will further restrictions on law abiding gun owners prevent criminals from getting hands on these “ghost guns”? Ironic, the left who want to control guns, also want NO border control. The same border that almost all of the guns used in crimes this “study” listed were smuggled across. If you refuse to control the border, how can you control who or what comes across it?
commented 2017-03-27 21:40:00 -0400
This is no “study” – this is an old CDC study rehashed with phoney Canadian demographics plugged in. It was refuted as false and unprofessional in method and conclusion over a dozen years back. The falsehood is they included people who were mostly teens up to 20 years old in this study of “child” shootings most never occuring in the home nor were they “accidental”. Police know 95% of gun crime is committed by less than 10% of the population and largely a matter of ethnic gang culture. No amount of lying fake medical studies will change that fact. Collectors, hunters, target shooters are NOT the problem – anyone trying to falsely scapegoat them for gang related/ethnic criminal violence has a malevolent agenda.

It seems that any junk stats are good for a few patronage bucks from the Liberals if the falsehoods promote their agenda -the CMA has revealed itself to be a patronage client fore hire.
commented 2017-03-27 21:20:38 -0400
The Liberals may be getting ready to go after the law abiding gun owners pretty soon to distract the masses from their other failures. Of course, with the shooting sports being so politically incorrect they’ll get a free pass with the media. Already Ralph Goodale has stacked his Canadian Firearms Advisory Committee with people connected to Wendy Cukiers’s Canadians for Gun Control. Now we have this nonsense that seems to have the lingering stench of the Liberals associated with it. This link is a good rebuttal to the report by Matt Gurney, a radio host with Global. He hits the nail right on the head:
commented 2017-03-27 21:14:21 -0400
@harold Hoff….thank you sir for both those posts and insights. And I will say an amen brother on all of the points you raised. When a thing is called a “journal” it is a platform for journalists…and we all know they have a bout as much integrity as a pimp and less truthfullness .

I remember having a discussion once with a professional psycologist who was a court expert and I said “one of the great joys of parenting is tickling your kids”…he agreed…it is loads of fun and great bonding for all concerned…he replied…it’s right up there with pillow fights. I then brought up the learned papers of collegues who deemed it child abuse….he rolled his eyes knowingly and said that the worst of it was that “tickle whimps” never seem to have any difficulty finding peers to review their work……:-)
commented 2017-03-27 20:22:44 -0400
The Canadian Medical Association Journal ha lost AL:L respect of anyone who is an actual scientist. I am one, and they lost mine when that idiot, John Fletcher, Editor-in-Chief, promoted some slanted science against non-injurious parental spanking (of which 82% of parents use based on 2012 survey). When I rad the twisting of words, the opinion masquerading as science, and the outright false and debunked claims being spewed there, I came to realize, the CMA has nothing to do with science, or objective research looking for the betterment of society. it’s become some kind of leftist advocacy group. Imagine that.
commented 2017-03-27 20:16:15 -0400
Well then let me get on my soap box. “How many children in Ontario Child Care that died in care died of mysterious causes between 2008 and 2012 – NEARLY 50% and equals 92 children. 92 deaths listed as undetermined (that means those children were healthy and apparently unsupervised when they died or someone would have a clue as to why they died) and scariest thing yet, is no one official wants to know why.” If we’re going to split hairs – maybe we should look at CAS apprehensions of children & trafficking into foster care and ask, why HALF of these kids die from no apparent cause. Kids SHOT gets headlines – kids dying of unknown reasons in foster care, once everyone has been paid off.. nope, nothing to see here, tra la la la la
commented 2017-03-27 19:50:30 -0400
They can take away people’s guns but they can never take away our right to speak freely . Well, on second thought???
commented 2017-03-27 19:24:57 -0400
Death by medical misadventure is approximately equal to death by firearms (less suicide). This assumes all medical misadventures are reported and not written off to other causes. In the interest of full disclosure, I would like to see a law requiring doctors to inform their patients how many people they have killed by ‘accident’.
I would also like to see how many incidents of firearm injury/ death are secondary to other criminal activity – drug, robbery, etc. but that is another issue.