September 04, 2019

Candice Malcolm: CBSA says illegals “disappear” and continue to live in Canada

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

On a recent episode of The Ezra Levant ShowCandice Malcolm of the True North Initiative called in to talk about reports from the Canada Border Services Agency's union that the group is unable to properly track illegals crossing into the country.

The union has apparently complained of a lack of resources to deal with bogus refugee claims.

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commented 2019-09-05 22:17:08 -0400
ANDREW STEPHENSON
But, disincentives rarely work –
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Got any evidence to back this up? Can you are any disincentives we have now of any consequence? Didn’t think so. Just like your babies are parasites theory it is just your opinion as always.

…they’re more worried about what they’re fleeing.
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So, these illegals coming from the US- what are they afraid of in the US? Can’t be anything too scary since thousands more by your own admission are trying to get into the big scary US of A.

So once again you raise the question- why do you want to believe and promulgate lies?
commented 2019-09-05 22:12:04 -0400
ANDREW STEPHENSON
You’ve apparently been reading up on logical fallacies, so you should probably know better than to commit one.
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And what would that be? you never did say.

And speaking of fallacies, how are you coming along with your babies are parasites article for peer review?

I don’t, particularly.
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Particularly? So in other words, you do support them.
commented 2019-09-05 21:23:38 -0400
Liz Rosie,

We have an obligation that if such a flag is indeed flying to immediately remove. If anyone doesn’t want to do this, let me know.

rickz2vp@hotmail.com
commented 2019-09-05 17:59:04 -0400
Jamie if only they stayed in the cities, that would be bad enough, but at least rural Canada would stay the same. Cities are complaining,they can’t handle the load, The want the rest of us to share the burden. The problem is not staying in the cities, the government will be setting them up with housing and money and they will be seeded all over.
commented 2019-09-05 17:53:08 -0400
Albertans First, at city halls across Canada. I have seen them in BC and pics of them flown in Toronto and other cities. It seems to me some of them are not taken down after ‘special occasions’ but stay flying with the Maple Leaf.
The problem is that the UN is not the respected outfit it used to be and the west should be distancing from them not flying flags in brotherhood. They have turned into a totalitarian army of despots.

United Nations
The United Nations flag is flown with the National Flag of Canada on Parliament Hill on United Nations Day, October 24, and by special arrangement on other occasions.
https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/flag-canada-etiquette/foreign-flags.html#a21
The Flag may be flown on all national and official holidays in Canada according to circumstance.
commented 2019-09-05 13:13:15 -0400
Liz Rozie,

Where did you see these UN flags? This is very alarming.
commented 2019-09-05 11:37:38 -0400
I disagree that they don’t know where these people are. They are all on welfare, or I would think a good majority are, so they absolutely know how to find these illegals. That’s why we had the big push on for privacy laws, certainly not to protect the general public, but to protect the government, so they can continue the destruction of our nation.
commented 2019-09-05 11:10:58 -0400
its THEIR LAND NOW only WE PAY ALL THE BILLS AND PROVIDE EVERYTHING FOR LIFE FOR THEM.
They do not come any dumber than canuks!
commented 2019-09-05 11:01:39 -0400
So what else is new. 15 years ago CBSA admitted there were at least 25,000 illegal immigrants in Canada,and they had no idea where they were. There are probably closer to a hundred thousand illegals now, and we can’t do a damned thing about it. Sure, we can fantasize that a new government will set things ‘aright, but the reality is years and years of Court and HRC cases that would tie up the whole system for decades and cost billions in the end. Might as well root out the really bad ones and try to extradite them,or jail ’em right here over the HRC’s outrage, and just issue a blanket amnesty to the rest.
commented 2019-09-05 07:23:16 -0400
So what’s the problem? I mean, they all head for our big cities where the residents keep voting for politicians who babble on and on about the incredible riches that multi-culti diversity brings. Seems only fair that the cities should reap all the rewards.
commented 2019-09-05 00:16:15 -0400
and those UN flags showing up across the country flying with the Maple Leaf gotta go. Its an insult.
commented 2019-09-05 00:02:32 -0400
Who the hell are you to tell us that disincentives don’t work, Andrew.
No handouts, no parasites. Processed outside of our border or on, I don’t know Baffin Island maybe, would be most effective indeed.

“You’ve apparently been reading up on logical fallacies, so you should probably know better than to commit one.”
You’d know all about that wouldn’t you Andrew. Was there any point to your last post? You didn’t impart any of your usual ‘knowledge’ other than to say nothing will work.

“….we have no obligations to anyone we didn’t vote for.” – Duke Of Paducah
Indeed and I think we need to remind people of that fact every time the UN is thrown up in our faces and remind them also to check out the list of despots who currently sit at that table. sCrew the UN.
commented 2019-09-04 22:30:03 -0400
LIZ ROSIE commented 8 hours ago
All we have to do is tell the UN to go take a flying leap into hell and guess what, no more ‘obligations’ . All we have to do is tell them to take a hike. All we need is a leader to tell them to no. Trust me, if the west separates, there will be rules made in the west and upheld by westerners. Borders will be respected. Every nation has a sovereign right to self determination especially in determining who is allowed into their nation”

Even Bernier admits that there is a need to admit refugees.

“What you subsidize you encourage, Why do you want to encourage and abet illegal immigrants?”

I don’t, particularly. But, disincentives rarely work – they’re more worried about what they’re fleeing. Incidentally, how well has Trump’s current aggressive policy worked (and, I mean, past the point a year or two ago when the glowing Breitbart reports mysteriously stopped?)

You’ve apparently been reading up on logical fallacies, so you should probably know better than to commit one. Or, perhaps, just grumpy that it’s been a week and nobody’s noticed your softer skin.
commented 2019-09-04 22:07:38 -0400
Andrew Stephenson when are you going to take a “Moe” into your home??
commented 2019-09-04 22:07:04 -0400
Andrew Stephenson the numbers will go up and down the number of people crossing illegally is not static.
commented 2019-09-04 21:26:23 -0400
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commented 2019-09-04 19:31:07 -0400
LIZ ROSIE
People seem to forget that because twats like Andrew spew nonsense like ‘we have obligations to foreign powers first over our own people’.

Bullshit. Its just one of those things repeated to keep people in line.
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Right on, Liza. During the 2015 election our local Green Party candidate was yapping about our “obligations to the UN”. I said we have no obligations to anyone we didn’t vote for. These leftist are sneaky at using the assumptive close. Good on you for catching it.
commented 2019-09-04 19:28:13 -0400
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 5 hours ago
“DUKE OF PADUCAH commented 1 hour ago

The far more effective thing would be to not let them in in the first place and place them in Arctic detention centres until their hearing for those who slip through"

Effective, of course, were it possible. Which, it probably is not.
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More possible than what we are doing now.

We have basic humanitarian and treaty obligations to offer refugee claimants a hearing, even if the system is backlogged and that doesn’t happen right away..
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Absolutely. They get their hearing while in the Arctic detention camps.

And we can renegotiate our treaties or even withdraw form them.

A good reason to do more vetting and let fewer in in the first place. The aforementioned Arctic detention camps would be the home of those who overstay when hey are caught. The experience would get out and then people would be less likely to break out laws. Once they do they get deported.

What you subsidize you encourage, Why do you want to encourage and abet illegal immigrants?
commented 2019-09-04 19:06:48 -0400
Until feckless Justin changed the rules . . . it was ILLEGAL to come from the USA and claim Refugee Status in Canada. Used to you could not be a refugee from a free democratic country. You had to claim in the first country you landed in.
Justin the clueless one owns this mess . . .
commented 2019-09-04 19:01:06 -0400
Liz Rosie:
I agree…..no more “free lunch”,as it were.The line of “refugee claimants” will dwindle rapidly when word gets out that the"restaurant and hotel" are closed.
Andrew….I truly hope you are only trolling and do not actually believe some of the statements you make on Rebel……
commented 2019-09-04 14:58:07 -0400
Step number one, cut the welfare state for non citizens. Make citizenship harder and take more time to obtain.
No ‘free stuff’ cuts down significantly on the leeches, allowing in only those who truly want to contribute and are not just here to take and take over. Whether it be by soft population jihad or more violent measures.
The ones already here who are just using us as doormats would abandon ship with no nanny state to prop them up.
…..and then we would have money for our own citizens, and to selectively give to foreign aid when we decide it is warranted and won’t be going to fueling terrorists.
commented 2019-09-04 14:48:16 -0400
All we have to do is tell the UN to go take a flying leap into hell and guess what, no more ‘obligations’ . All we have to do is tell them to take a hike. All we need is a leader to tell them to no. Trust me, if the west separates, there will be rules made in the west and upheld by westerners. Borders will be respected. Every nation has a sovereign right to self determination especially in determining who is allowed into their nation. People seem to forget that because twats like Andrew spew nonsense like ‘we have obligations to foreign powers first over our own people’.

Bullshit. Its just one of those things repeated to keep people in line.
commented 2019-09-04 14:24:04 -0400
DUKE OF PADUCAH commented 1 hour ago

The far more effective thing would be to not let them in in the first place and place them in Arctic detention centres until their hearing for those who slip through"

Effective, of course, were it possible. Which, it probably is not. We have basic humanitarian and treaty obligations to offer refugee claimants a hearing, even if the systme is backlogged and that doesn’t happen right away.. Even Bernier acknowledges that refugee claimants need to be taken in Further, a lot of the “illegals” actually entered legally, then violated the terms of their visa once in, either overstaying or working illegally. This sort of thing is extremely difficult to eradicate without crushing business in the red tape needed to verify the legitimacy of work permits or citizenship.
commented 2019-09-04 13:56:21 -0400
The biggest joke here is on Ontario . Quebec lets them walk in and Trudeau pays them , then they go to Ontario and they pick up the tab . That’s the Liberal way of screwing Ontario and the tax payers of Ontario .
commented 2019-09-04 12:57:03 -0400
ANDREW STEPHENSON commented 31 mins ago
You do need to have some enforcement, but 100% removal rates are unrealistic and, frankly, unnecessary, as doing so would cost Canadians more than simply tolerating the occasional roofer without a work permit.
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The far more effective thing would be to not let them in in the first place and place them in Arctic detention centres until their hearing for those who slip through. Once word got out about the housing arrangements the flow would stop.

What you subsidize, you encourage.
commented 2019-09-04 12:56:11 -0400
Nothing to see here folks, all knowing andrew says all is well. But what the all knowing one is ignoring, purposefully I suspect, is the key word here……illegal!
These “illegals” eat up the resources other wise meant for those whom immigrate legally among other things, but the all knowing one has a solution…….just hire more civil servants.
Further, while im sure that the all knowing one would condemn any tax paying canadian for trying to avoid paying taxes, this twit encourages others to hire these “illegals” and not pay them the going rate.
It would seem the all knowing one has that elitist " who going to cut my grass" attitude here.
commented 2019-09-04 12:22:45 -0400
The True North report is misleading – the number they refer to is the backlog, not the number entering, which has been declining. And, yes, the existence of a backlog implies that there’s a shortage of resources to handle it, though they are making an effort.

One of the reasons they don’t really invest that much into it is fairy simple – the illegals are much like American illegals, in that their greatest offense is being here. Otherwise they don’t seem to cause much trouble. You do need to have some enforcement, but 100% removal rates are unrealistic and, frankly, unnecessary, as doing so would cost Canadians more than simply tolerating the occasional roofer without a work permit.