August 09, 2015

China's "basic dictatorship" is a threat to the religious freedoms of Christians

Brian LilleyArchive

Some Canadian leaders have said they admire China's basic dictatorship but they may want to reconsider, especially in light of recent news of crackdowns on China's Christians.

The latest crackdowns are directed at religious symbols. Chinese authorities are removing and cutting down crosses even those on "state authorized" churches. Despite their efforts to control Christianity, churches of all denominations continue to thrive and grow in China where there are more Catholics than there are Canadians in Canada.

Christians are the most persecuted religious group around the world yet we have leaders in this country that will stand up and decry the non-existent threat of Islamophobia but remain silent about the real and growing threats to Christians. What's happening in China may not be as bad yet as what's happening to Christians in Syria and Iraq, but make no mistake, what we're seeing are first steps in a very bad direction so now would be a good time to take back those expressions of admiration and say "No" to what's happening in China.


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commented 2015-08-10 18:18:34 -0400
Prince, none of us has the right opinion. Maddeningly. We all just do the best we can to share our views with others to try to reach some sort of mutual understanding and a mutual agreement on how to get along. Hard work.
commented 2015-08-10 16:14:14 -0400
In this new information age world communism doesn’t work, just like it has failed in every attempt so far. In Canada, we have come so close to that ideal that even the Cons have embraced some not so sound policies. Netflix has embraced the idea of maternal and paternal leave for it’s employees. It just shows that the USA is as close to it as we are. Where does it end?
commented 2015-08-10 08:32:33 -0400
Good post, Kenneth!
commented 2015-08-09 22:33:23 -0400
The Communists never learn, at least not until they become Christians. The more they try to suppress faith in Jesus Christ, the more it spreads. Many totalitarian regimes throughout the last 2000 years, from Roman Emperors to modern day Marxist dictatorships (the kind that JT said he admires in China, for their supposed efficiency, as he perceives it), have tried to eliminate Christianity, and all have failed. Yet they persist in their persecution of people who only want to worship God and His Son Jesus Christ “in spirit and in truth” (John 4:23), and to help other people find true relationship with God through faith in Jesus Christ. The reason the persecutors fail is that Christian faith is given by God, and so it is something man cannot eliminate. Two thousand years of trying and failing have proven that. But knock yourselves out, Commies, and when you have exhausted yourselves trying in vain to eliminate Divine salvation of sinners, Christians will still be here waiting to help you come to faith in Jesus Christ and to forgiveness of your many grievous sins and to eternal life. Forgiveness and eternal life are gifts God gives you when you believe in Jesus Christ. And when you confess your former stupidity, we’ll just admit that we were there too, once, and that in any case, God is still working on us as well, to help us be better ambassadors for Him and for His Son, Jesus Christ, who suffered and died on a cross to pay the penalty for our sins, and who rose from the dead by God’s power to give us eternal life.
commented 2015-08-09 21:26:33 -0400
Thanks for that point of view, Joan. I readily admit I don’t have all the answers.
(I also tell people that I have lots of ideas… but that doesn’t mean the ideas are good…)
commented 2015-08-09 20:56:53 -0400
Prince, neighbours of mine are a couple from Tibet. The husband was one of the monks that helped the Dalai Lama escape. Like the DL, he was recruited as a young child to grow up with and become a body guard to the DL. After they escaped, he went to India, met and married his wife, and moved here, where they worked in a factory, raised a family and spent all their spare time raising money and building schools in Tibet. Under the DL, they say, all but the elite were denied an education. If the poor could not pay the taxes, the DL’s thugs beat them, took their things, destroyed their few possessions. They call the DL “a terrorist”. They work closely with China to build their schools and the kids they’ve educated outscore Chinese kids on state exams. Some are now old enough to be here, studying at universities to become doctors, lawyers, engineers, so they can return to Tibet and raise their people out of the dire poverty they suffered under the old system that guaranteed a very short life expectancy unless you were a monastery elite. China won’t let them teach Buddhism in the schools but they practice in their own home. The former monk now teaches Tibetan music at U of T.

Another point of view, theirs is. That’s all.
commented 2015-08-09 19:09:09 -0400
Sheldon Berg, good post. I would add,though, that as the Christian Church strays from the Word of God, other beliefs move in to fill that void, secularism being the most pervasive in our Western society, and it is because of the Church’s move away from the Word of God that allows secularism to move in, not that secularism is the active force pushing the Word of God out.
commented 2015-08-09 18:59:20 -0400
What Christians know/believe that non-Christians do not know/believe is that religious persecution against Christians is not only inevitable but needs to be expected. Here another key point where normative secularism and Christianity make a radical departure. The world is not moving towards a utopia. It is moving increasingly towards something else and that something else is not going to be favourable to Christians especially. If Christianity is true than harder times will always be ahead for people who truly believe and earnestly try to follow Christ.
In the west we have allowed our culture to delegitimize religion but Christianity most especially. It is not open to public discourse because of politically correct sensibilities. The problem here is similar to the scientific principle that “nature abhors a vacuum” and so too does the human spirit/soul. Take away truth and God and something else will fill that gap. Examples abound in the Rebel Medias reporting. What strikes me as remarkable is the dogmatic religiousness of our secular moralities, politics, scientific theories, educational institutions, and a host of other cultural phenomenon that are expected to be followed while traditional faiths are made taboo (check out David Berlinski for a more thorough examination). The irony is too great to not see the vacuum principle at work . Here in the west we are paying the price for marginalizing our Judeo-Christian heritage. It is interesting to note that it was previously understood that governments protected our rights and that fundamental rights were God given. Now it seems that even here in Canada that this fundamental principle is being slowly but willfully abandoned for a new principle where governments decide what rights we should be allowed and/or to what extent. Again, the abundance of examples are well documented on the Rebel.
I am not at heart a pessimist but I am also no fool. Governments abroad and at home will continue to maneuver for more control of fundamental rights. As our faith in God wains as a culture we should expect our governments to help fill the vacuum. God bless the believers in China and around the world!
commented 2015-08-09 17:48:28 -0400
This is hardly news. Christians have been persecuted in China for decades. Then again, so have minorities and any other religions. (Or have we forgotten how China views the Dali Lama? Or Tibet? Or the minorities of China’s western provinces? How about the independent nation of Taiwan?) China is just like any other totalitarian state — no “religion” but the State.

I’m not condoning China’s actions.

But this is far from being “news”. Even a cursory investigation into China’s history (approved or not, and I’ve found some dissident writings that can only be published outside of China) that tell the story of China’s political influence waxing and waning in cycles. More freedom now, but here comes the crackdown! Oops, time to open the freedoms some… nope, too much. Crack down again! The former Soviet Union did the same, and so have North Korea, Iran, Cuba, and other totalitarian states. It’s all about State control, nothing more, nothing less.

Besides, in the “real” world, what can we really do? Do we actually expect China to listen to us? Do we intend to force China to change their policies?

And, for the Christian populace worldwide, it will get worse… and soon. The fortunate ones are those that have already been martyred.

One can believe, or not, as one chooses. But the reality is that we have only one potent recourse: prayer.
commented 2015-08-09 17:14:21 -0400
Yes this has gone well far enough Christianity has to stand up before we go back to the "Dark Ages’, of total wickedness and complete alienation of human rights and dignities – as their currently is a push on by the ectreme top 1% of Oligarchs to take us back to Feudal times! Be aware be forearmed!
commented 2015-08-09 16:43:22 -0400
I am torn about “religious freedom” in China. I kind of applauded when they force fed Muslim medical students during Ramadan. I like that they curtail the growth of Islam. I like that they target, with no worry about being labelled islamophobic, their Islamic radicals. So when they do the same to Christianity, I dunno. I am glad whenever Christians can worship without being murdered which Christians still can in China.

I oppose communism but it is not only communism that allows persecution of religious folks. And I’d rather a country crack down on the growth of Islamic extremists than do nothing while they take over one democracy after another and subject our people to rapes, murders, and shariah.

In an ideal world, some benign all-powerful god would rule. But until then, I favour secular government, democratic government, regularly elected government that restricts the growth of religion that targets other religions, democracy and freedom.
commented 2015-08-09 15:36:08 -0400
Communists don’t want religion – russia, cuba, n.korea – all the same sh*t.

China is about $35T in debt (hard to be exact since their numbers are so fraudulent). Expect to see China go into financial collapse within the next year.

If the majority of Canadians are stupid enough to vote in our own home grown communist pigs (no-cair and troodo) then we may get to join China with our own collapse.
commented 2015-08-09 15:29:28 -0400
Watch Trudope and Tommie the Commie entertain Sharia Laws in Canada should they gain power this fall!