August 24, 2016

Montreal to launch war on plastic bags BEFORE studying impact

Andrew LawtonRebel Commentator

If you’re a Montreal resident, start hoarding grocery bags, because the government is looking to ban them effective in 2018.

Lawmakers have banned plastic bags smaller than 50 microns, with the exception of small transparent bags used for bulk foods.

The latest example of the Nanny State’s encroachment on consumer and business rights comes as Quebec’s provincial government is yet to release a study addressing whether such bans would even work. The study has been commissioned by the "Ministry of Sustainable Development, Environment, and Action against Climate Change," however.

Results in other jurisdictions show mixed findings. Even though reducing the number of plastic bags in circulation can put a dent in pollution, it creates other issues—from contamination of pricey reusable bags to people buying additional bags for alternate uses like garbage collection instead of reusing grocery bags.

Simply put, the net impact isn't yet known, but that hasn't stopped government nannies from legislating regardless.

The broader concern here is that government should not have the right to tell retailers what they can and cannot offer, nor consumers what they're able to use to carry their groceries.

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commented 2016-08-25 03:09:07 -0400
We live in a world run by idiots. Governments have just too much power.
commented 2016-08-25 02:49:08 -0400
Glad I don’t live in Montreal.
commented 2016-08-24 21:53:24 -0400
Zero impact on ecological balance, big profit windfall for crony capitalists playing the cuckolded green consumer.
commented 2016-08-24 19:27:08 -0400
I hate the environment!
commented 2016-08-24 15:48:20 -0400
The plastic bag costs 1 cent to purchase in bought in mass bulk by businesses, which is why almost all of them charge for bags – at least Walmart did not use the “saving the environment” lie.

That is why other grocery chains that used to put cardboard boxes out in front to carry groceries home, have stopped and not only want you to use plastic bags – funny no environmentalist group is complaining about his
commented 2016-08-24 15:32:22 -0400
Cuck-bec goobmint is getting bored.

Wait until the pensions start missing payments (currently at a 3:1 payout/earn in ratio – ruh-roh – not good) – they’ll be plenty busy then.
commented 2016-08-24 15:25:12 -0400
This looks like another example of:
1 Assume there is a serious problem, or if not, make one up
2 Create a Ministry (with budget, staff, resources, etc..) to resolve (or perpetually treat) the problem.
3 Cash in with votes from your propaganda about your valiant actions being taken to solve the supposed problem, which with luck will never get solved.
Examples – terrible plastic bags, rampant, man-made climate change, racism and sexism wherever you want to find it, Islamophobia, and many more.
commented 2016-08-24 15:09:45 -0400
Stephen: You can add lower sales tax, competative pricing, greater selection and absence of “suggested” 25% gratuity to your list of reasons shopping is a better experience in the US than Montreal.
commented 2016-08-24 14:50:34 -0400
Recently, in Quebec, Walmart started charging 5¢ per bag. Now really, does it cost 5¢ a bag to produce? Why should I be paying for its advertising?

Meanwhile, back in the USA, Walmart packs your order using a bags for just a few items so the bags don’t tear. A small order can get you a dozen bags No charge. Bags galore! And you know, it makes it easier for the shopper.

Plastic bags are now biodegradable. Does it really matter to reduce the number of bags when, in a few years, they will have dissolved?

Just another money grab at the people’s expense.

BTW, since reusable shopping bags need to be washed, isn’t there a tradeoff in water and electricity “green house footprint” to keep the bags clean? I believe government recommends washing your bags after every third use to keep contamination risks down.
commented 2016-08-24 14:43:13 -0400
A ban, tax or surcharge is not a solution to every problem. Grocery stores and shopping centers should have a bin where used bags can be dropped off and recycled. The environmentalist plastic bag obsession is really starting to disrupt my enjoyment of life. I just want to carry what food and consumer products I can afford conveniently and safely home.
commented 2016-08-24 14:39:05 -0400
good points alfredo
commented 2016-08-24 14:02:23 -0400
I pity the poor people in the grocery stores who will be forced to carry everything out to shopper’s cars without bags. Maybe this is Coderre’s way to combat youth unemployment as the stores will need many more “bag boys”
commented 2016-08-24 13:51:47 -0400
Other jurisdictions also ban plastic shopping bags, or force retailers to charge a fee for each bag.
I remember when paper bags were the norm at the checkout. Then the eco-lefties decided that they weren’t good for the environment because (horrors) they are made from trees and the switch to plastic bags was on. Now the eco-lefties have decided that we need to switch back again. How about we let store owners use whatever damn bags they please? Ridiculous.