May 25, 2015

Conservatives and Liberals engage in pre-election ad skirmish

Brian LilleyArchive

The Conservatives have launched a series of ads for TV claiming Justin Trudeau isn't up for the job of being prime minister.

The Liberals have responded with their own ad that says Stephen Harper isn't fair and Trudeau is. Brian Lilley breaks down the ads with an analysis of what each party is trying to do and what it all means.

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commented 2015-05-29 13:22:44 -0400
Adam: “OHIP doesn’t cover dental. It covers medical. If you live in Canada and go see your family doctor, OHIP pays for that. Good ol’ socialism.”
Again you have your facts wrong. OHIP does not cover Canada, only Ontario. I do not reside in Ontario having left there during “Rae Days”.
commented 2015-05-29 01:04:03 -0400
Just don’t get cancer.
commented 2015-05-28 23:18:03 -0400
Don’t pretend OHIP is magic. Great if you need knee surgery as long as you can stand the wait list that is, OHIP is shit if you have a disease. You’ll just die waiting, or very soon after they managed to get to you. Any provincial medical plan in this country is so full of pocket fillers it barely functions at all. How many people don’t even have a GP anymore. The Canadian Health Care model is barely functional. Ineffectual socialism, basically useless, not to mention extremely expensive. Provincially run and screwed up, not the Feds screwup.
commented 2015-05-28 17:04:50 -0400
Adam: Making up stuff again without facts to back it up. As to websites complaining about movies and such, everyone is entitled to their opinions. Everyone has the right to be offended (or not). I am more aware of things than you give credit for. Taking cheap shots does not change this. And where did OHIP (or Fox news for that matter) come into this? OHIP does not even apply to me! Currently I am undergoing reconstructive dental surgery. There is no plan for this, so yes, I am paying the full shot which will result in some debt load. I have flagged your last post due to lack of civility and personal attack as contained in the commenting rules for this site. The site administrators can decide what they want to do!
commented 2015-05-27 22:47:21 -0400
Really? What conservative bubble would that be? You are the one making the unsubstantiated statements! Please provide some facts to rationilize your dispostiions. Otherwise it is complete conjecture. Adam. The mere fact you identify yourself with my previous comment proves my point! You have been drawn out as it were, like those Islamists in Texas! Everyone on this thread now knows!
commented 2015-05-27 20:05:33 -0400
Oh my. More personal attacks. How rude. Please review the commenting rules for the forum. The only ones who have complained about movies lately are the Islamists (American Sniper) as it protrays their religion in a bad light (using children as weapons). I have seen the movie. Hollywood aside, we know this to be true from some material available on the internet. Yasser Arafat’s training school for child soldiers and Hamas’ control of UN funded schools for the same purposes.
commented 2015-05-27 17:22:33 -0400
ADAM CHRISITE rejoices in his perspective that Canada is a socialist state (“Canada is progressive and socialist”, your words not mine), which as Lenin explains, paves the way to Communism (“The goal of socialism is communism.”). Nice touch with the expletive which in your twisted logic is evidence of “some of the most intelligent people on this planet”, presumably including you as well.
commented 2015-05-27 13:17:02 -0400
ADAM CHRISITE, “Ron, Your friend is a moron. considering some of the most intelligent people on this planet use curse words to express themselves”. Typical lefty response to use ad homonym attacks, calling someone a “moron”. You have probably heard the expression that it takes one to know one! Foul-mouthed ADAM CHRISITE rejoices in his perspective that Canada is a socialist state, “Prince – your view on how things SHOULD be is not what Canada is about. You are expecting Canada to change it’s foundation – Canada is progressive and socialist. That is a fact”.
ADAM CHRISITE, who said this?: “The goal of socialism is communism.” Vladimir Lenin, who also said that those who buy into his ideology are “useful idiots”. In essence Lenin’s “The goal of socialism is communism” then becomes “socialist society is eventually going to pave the way for communist society.”
ADAM CHRISITE have a watch of The Soviet Story documentary:
which reveals the dystopian final destiny (brutal Godless Communist regimes), the road to which is being paved by socialism. Or perhaps ADAM CHRISITE you already know the endgame and are looking forward to volunteer as a commander for one of the concentration camps.
commented 2015-05-27 01:04:24 -0400
“Sure I have”, not really for you to say Adam.
commented 2015-05-26 23:37:10 -0400
An opposing view is how anyone finds their own definition. You however are not really challenging any opinions with your intelligence, but keep trying.
commented 2015-05-26 22:09:16 -0400
Adam, we release you. You are clearly right on every topic, we are wrong and stupid. I know you are disappointed with the Liberals, you have mentioned it several times, while still maintaining it is the only path and all Canadians are really socialist and being liberal is the only correct choice. Dually noted. You also hate Conservatism, this site, Ezra, Harper, God, am I leaving anyone out? If you have anything to contribute of any interest to anybody please do. You are just being a troll.
commented 2015-05-26 21:20:44 -0400
Adam. Offensive is one thing, but being ignorant of others is quite another. You stated: “Ezra is your Jesus and the only truth teller in your mind." You have no facts to back that up other than your opinion (and it is a free country) of what you consider to be “hard core conservatives”. You have proven neither. Anything else, as I have noted previously is slander.
Just a suggestion, if you dislike this site and the posters so much, please move on to another forum that better matches your philosophies. You will be much happier I suspect.
I say that with the best of intentions.
commented 2015-05-26 18:38:51 -0400
Adam said: “Ezra is your Jesus and the only truth teller in your mind. In American terms, Of course I may come across as unreasonable when you are all sucking on Stephen Harper’s balls and can’t be objective on any level. Liberals are viewed as the enemy here – you are not going to concede to anything a liberal has to say, which only confirms the fact that you don’t want intelligent discussion and debate here – you just want a circle jerk where you just all agree with each other.” Adam, do not ever pretend to know what I may believe in or not without presenting facts to back up your claims. Otherwise we are just talking about slander. It is most unbecoming as is some of the foul mouthed language! Some might interpret that as complete disrepect for other persons and an indication of character. As a side note, personal attacks seem to be trademark of the left, based on my experiences over the years with those lefties who may take an opposing view. The whole object of discussion is well, discussion, an attempt to reach some middle ground, even if to agree to disagree, not launch personal attacks!
commented 2015-05-26 14:36:20 -0400
Prince Knight said: “Solomon sure had it nailed — there’s no arguing with a fool.” And to that I might add: “You can’t reason with the unreasonable.”
commented 2015-05-26 11:00:56 -0400
ADAM CHRISITE, “I am sorry that my ‘cussing’ offends you Prince. I like colorful words and it’s laughable that you think mature or professional people don’t use them”. I am indebted to a friend at university who said the following: “Profanity is a means by which the simple-minded strive to express themselves forcefully.”
commented 2015-05-26 10:19:55 -0400
Adam Christie said, "I see though that Peter and no one else has responded to my question "

Prince Knight said, "Solomon sure had it nailed — there’s no arguing with a fool. "

This is the reason I have not responded to Adam.
commented 2015-05-26 10:07:23 -0400
Solomon sure had it nailed — there’s no arguing with a fool.
commented 2015-05-26 09:56:33 -0400
Greig, I liken it to that wack-a-mole game at the Calgary Stampede! Conservatives have to remain ever vigilant, to ensure the truth about the real danger to our democracy, that of the Liberal and NDP socialists, gets to the voters! The attacks on our basic rights and freedoms is increasing daily, and we need to speak up, and be heard above the children who are banging pots and pans, and screaming above everyone else, so that they can intimidate us. Don’t be intimidated, and keep your eye on our freedoms. If we remain silent, then we are complicit.
commented 2015-05-26 09:36:35 -0400
Yes it is a full time tough job rebuilding and repairing the decades of damage the Liberals have done.
commented 2015-05-26 03:00:33 -0400
I have to agree with Adam, Canada was more progressive, European, Liberal, etc 35 years ago. This was because it was shaped that way by successive liberal governments pushing us more towards socialism, multiculturalism, hug-a-thug judicial system, etc. PET was the last of the bunch and pretty much is the cause of all of the issues we are still dealing with today. These successive liberal governments pushed Canada from being a conservative, religious, principled, personally responsible, compassionate society into what Adam lovingly remembers. Now the pendulum is swinging the other direction and has been moving that way since Mulroney. Being born and raised in Alberta, Adam’s Canada was never my Canada, it pretty much avoided most of the conversion that happened in the east and on the left coast. In Alberta we had the liberals and PC’s fighting over who was going to cut the budget the most (Decore/Klein) and in the ‘90s under Chretien/Martin, the Federal government cut the deepest downloading to the provinces and stealing EI money into general revenue. Stealing from workers, not very socialist. Harper isn’t to blame for the direction the country is moving, he is the result. If Canada was as progressive, lefty, European as Adam thinks, Harper would have never been elected.
commented 2015-05-26 01:14:57 -0400
PRINCE KNIGHT, “Oh, yikes, I just read Adam’s response to Peter, talking about ‘morality’… I wonder where he thinks we develop ‘morals’? Does he realize that, at evolution’s core, there aren’t any?” As evolutionist and atheist Richard Dawkins, likely a friend and source of support for ADAM CHRISITE’s worldview, explains in The Blind Watchmaker: “In a universe of electrons and selfish genes, blind physical forces and genetic replication, some people are going to get hurt, other people are going to get lucky, and you won’t find any rhyme or reason in it, nor any justice. The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.” Dawkins concluding “at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference” is a logical conclusion for someone who believes that the universe is only the outcome of a random “blind physical forces”.
commented 2015-05-25 23:46:55 -0400
Joan said, "So while Canada is not a dictatorship, still, if you openly oppose some provincial and/or municipal or even administrative federal civil servant career politicians, you can find yourself wrongly charged, denied bail, and detained indefinitely in segregated confinement without access to a telephone with which to retain counsel. I know that from experience. "

And those provincial and/or municipal or even administrative federal civil servant career politicians were not of the right leaning Conservative type, more the left wing socialist, cultural Marxist type, read Liberal type, Adam.
commented 2015-05-25 23:09:59 -0400
Prince Knight – “Oh, yikes, I just read Adam’s response to Peter, talking about “morality””

Yea, he is the model for morality for sure. You should read his posts to me in the interview Lauren Southern and Ezra thread (about 4 pages back).

Talk about foul mouthed, and it got worse when I refused to answer another commentor, Terry regarding my personal experiences with the CBC and having my posts “Content Disabled”. Whew! I would be more likely to respond to him if he weren’t so foul mouthed and perpetually angry. A little civility might be in order.

But to get back to the point, he is not one to talk about morality.
commented 2015-05-25 22:41:09 -0400
Bravo Zulu, you are right that Canada is not a dictatorship.

But while activists may not be jailed for a generation, there is considerable corruption in our police and justice agents that misuse law enforcement resources to intimidate and silence political opponents. That is not the fault of the federal government leaders, our elected officials, but of provincial administration. Look at what the former Alberta Minister of Justice bragged of – having every cop and judge in Alberta in his pocket. And look at what has come out at the Charbonneau inquiry. In my own town, a city councillor openly bragged he and other councillors misuse law enforcement resources “all the time” he said, to harass political opponents and run them out of town, to put them out of business. There is a word for that. It’s called cleansing.

So while Canada is not a dictatorship, still, if you openly oppose some provincial and/or municipal or even administrative federal civil servant career politicians, you can find yourself wrongly charged, denied bail, and detained indefinitely in segregated confinement without access to a telephone with which to retain counsel. I know that from experience.
commented 2015-05-25 22:35:40 -0400
Oh, yikes, I just read Adam’s response to Peter, talking about “morality”… I wonder where he thinks we develop “morals”? Does he realize that, at evolution’s core, there aren’t any? That “survival of the fittest” is murderous anarchy? Does he realize that, without “religion” or “religious beliefs” I could take his life with no consequence? Hey, it benefits me, so… So where does he get his ideas of “morals”, if it’s not based in some kind of “religious” background? Even philosophers haven’t properly answered this.

(And now watch the explosion, because his personal beliefs, such as they are, are being attacked…)
commented 2015-05-25 22:25:15 -0400
Just as an aside, Adam, I share your views on “religion” — I hate it, and with a passion. But that required that “religion” be properly defined. “Religion”, in its essence, is rules ‘n’ regs, do’s and don’ts, obligations and expectations that a person is expected to live up to in that person’s own strength. EVERY religion on the planet, bar none, requires this. The problem with true Christianity is that it’s actually not a religion; it’s a belief system and a way of life. Moreover, take a very close look at all of the successful societies in history, those with peaceful and productive citizens. And you tell me what they all had in common. Here’s a hint: a supernatural belief was at its core. Here’s another hint: they were not dictatorships. You call Harper a dictator, facetiously or not. Reality check, me boyo. A dictator is one who has total and entire control of the nation at his fingertips. Some names come to mind: the Pharaohs of ancient Egypt, Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon, the Caesars of Rome, or, more “recently”, shall we call up Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Pol Pot, or how about Chairman Mao? These people all ruled brutally, with their militaries, and violently crushed any dissent. Is Harper even close to doing this? Rhetoric aside, you’re talking out of both sides of your mouth, because for every instance you claim Harper forces his Party members to “tow the line”, I can bring out examples of Liberal leaders (including Trudeau Jr) who pull the same stunt. Pot and Kettle, Adam.

So, a word of advice: lay off the emotional rhetoric, because you only show your colors, and we all know that, at heart, you are overly emotional, idealistic, proud, vain, self-righteous, and arrogant. Your mind is closed, because you do not look at what is; merely at what you think should be. The two are galaxies apart. Harper cramps your style? Boo-hoo. Take it out at the ballot box. You’ll find zero sympathy here.
commented 2015-05-25 22:21:37 -0400
@ Prince Knight (2nd to latest post – Hear, hear! :)
commented 2015-05-25 22:21:01 -0400
@ Liza Rosie. Well stated. The blind headlong rush some have to barrel full blast towards this “progressive” ideal is reckless and highly dangerous as it is heading headlong into the arms of a communist dictatorship.

@ Ron Voss – Informative post.

@ Prince Knight (latest post) – Hear, hear!
commented 2015-05-25 22:07:41 -0400
I stand by my comment about government NOT being the fallback for people. PEOPLE should be the fallback for people. Why should I expect the government to provide for my “retirement”, or tell me when I should retire? I’m a responsible person, thank you very much. I can provider for myself much better than the government can. I can assist those around me much better than the government can — and I am. It’s not called an American-style government; it’s called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.
commented 2015-05-25 22:04:54 -0400
Adam your comments sicken me. Of course Justin isn’t close to being a political leader nor will he ever be. Multiculturalism is a farce. If you can’t realize Harper is devoted to developing Canada’s best interests then you are ignorant. I’ve been here 50 years and seen how idiotic liberals can destroy rights of Canadians. Google is your God . Snuggle up with your boyfriend and develop more hedonistic scenarios