May 09, 2016

Dear Anti-vaxxers: Retracted papers and blogging conspiracy theorists are NOT a scientific argument

Holly NicholasRebel Commentator

Last week, I covered the anti-vaxxer movement and how scientific evidence backs the efficiency of vaccinations and their direct link to decreasing the occurrence of several diseases.

I learned a lot about anti-vaxxers when my story aired – including that not one of those in opposition could provide any scientific evidence accepted by the community to counter my points. Now, I’m doubling down to shred the counter-claims of the anti-vaxxer crowd.

The first comes from those who say vaccines are a Big Pharma plot to get rich. But vaccines are cheap, one dose shots that keep people healthy - if vaccinations were just another way for companies to get rich, wouldn’t they want to keep us all sick?

The vaccines I’m talking about have saved lives. The World Health Organization notes 3 million lives are saved yearly and another 1.5 million could be saved with more effective programmes in place.

Anti-vaxxers also claimed that the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention reported that autism does result from vaccines which is completely false. The proof can be found on their website. As for the suggestion that the Mumps, Measles and Rubella (MMR) shot contains mercury which some say is what’s causing autism, also false. Thimersal, the mercury containing substance used in some vaccines to prevent the growth of bacteria, was never a component of the MMR vaccine and was removed from all childhood vaccines in the United States in 2001.

My favourite rebuttal was that I MUST watch the movie “Vaxxed” directed by Andrew Wakefield. He’s the kooky doctor that published a paper (later retracted) claiming autism and irritable bowel syndrome were caused by vaccinations. He had his medical license revoked and was barred from practicing medicine in the UK. Of the 12 researchers that contributed to the paper, ten retracted, one wasn’t found guilty and the other, John Walker-Smith, had his license revoked too. He appealed his case and won, which some anti-vaxxers mistake for validation of his research. It isn’t – legal rulings aren’t science. The only thing his case shows is that Walker-Smith wasn’t guilty of using interventions on kids for research purposes because he was actually treating kids.

The documentary also details “whistleblowing” by some employees at the Centre for Disease Control and Prevention. One allegation is that African-American boys are more likely to have autism when vaccinated between 24 and 36 months. But, one whistleblower turned data over to a scientist named Dr. Brian S Hooker who then published his findings in the journal Translational Degeneration – which was, you guessed it, later retracted.

Sorry anti-vaxxers, two retracted papers and some blogs written by conspiracy theorists just don’t stack up against hundreds of peer reviewed scientific studies using different methodologies that all conclude that vaccines result in a decrease in the occurrence of diseases.

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commented 2016-05-09 19:01:40 -0400
Vaccines from Abortion: The Hidden Truth
ALL the Vaccines Are Contaminated – Every Last One of Them

Studies Prove Without Doubt That Unvaccinated Children Are Far Healthier Than Their Vaccinated Peers
commented 2016-05-09 19:00:54 -0400
Personally I don’t care if you get injected, with Vaccines, go for it, all you want. Just don’t tell me that I have to get it. Forced inoculation is Tyranny. And you can stick the Herd immunity crap you know where. I got three steel poles holding up my front deck. I can talk to them all day long and they don’t understand what I am talking about. You can provide evidence all you want to some of these pro-vaxxer people and they willfully ignore it. You want evidence look it up yourself, like I did. Start by reading the INSERT provided with the Vaccine you are giving your CHILDREN. SIDE EFFECTS, MAY CAUSE AUTISM. Go ahead call it Conspiracy theory, demonize it any way you want but lets hear the facts and not the rhetoric, facts like what is causing the meteoric rise of AUTISM?
commented 2016-05-09 18:55:58 -0400
This what you support Holly if your pro vaccine Number of Abortions – Abortion Counters
commented 2016-05-09 18:50:41 -0400
PRO Vaccine ar PRO Abortion as aborted fetuses are in Vaccines ,,, SSSOOO do you Holly really want to protect Children your a SHILL to the 10 … You need to be removed from Rebel as you no longer can be trusted
commented 2016-05-09 16:27:45 -0400
This is unbelievable. Being called conspiracy theorists by an alternative media correspondent! Who do you think you are, Holly?

I like a lot of the work you’ve done the Rebel, but this is a major problem with the Rebel Media – they are correct 70% of the time and very incorrect the rest. What happened to doing your research? Clearly you have never read the manufacturers inserts that are packaged with vaccines that state the many side effects. Even the CDC’s own people have exposed that the CDC is covering up the statistical link between MMR vaccines and autism. At the current rate, by 2030 there will be 80% of boys with autism!

Why are vaccine manufacturers exempted from being sued if their products injure or kill? Why are there secret vaccine courts paying out $billions in damages? Why are going numbers of mothers with children injured or killed after being vaccinated? Why do so many people get ill with the very same illness they have been vaccinated from? Why do you care if I don’t get a vaccine, if you’re protected by getting your? Why does Robert DiNero recommend everyone see Vaxxed? What happened to personal rights and freedoms?

You might want to spend 10 minutes and start getting educated on vaccines before spouting off to everyone here about something you have no real clue about:

Or just continue to repeat the script.
commented 2016-05-09 16:02:19 -0400
Hmm, how else do you explain the eradication of mumps, measles, rubella, polio, and whooping cough in the western world? I know, it’s got to be climate change!
commented 2016-05-09 15:30:11 -0400
A tetanus shot has saved my hide more then once , in my past trade of destruction and construction of roofing materials
My MOTHER was born in 1915 , and as a child almost died of lock-jaw as they called it back then
HOLLY good come back, and good thorough research
As a senior I get all my shots as possible
commented 2016-05-09 15:28:16 -0400
So, one anti-vaxxer here says, “You are wrong Holly” but offers no counter argument nor evidence to the contrary.

Then the other anti-vaxxer’s entire argument is that he does not trust trust “Big-Pharma”, offers not logical rebuttal nor evidence as to why vaccines are bad.

Good going, guys! You steel clad arguments have me humbled! not!
commented 2016-05-09 14:08:37 -0400
- “Sorry anti-vaxxers, two retracted papers and some blogs written by conspiracy theorists just don’t stack up against hundreds of peer reviewed scientific studies using different methodologies that all conclude that vaccines result in a decrease in the occurrence of diseases.” -

Sorry Pro-vaxxers, not buying it, I don’t trust Big-Pharma, the Government (CDC), WHO, or articles in favor, especially when the writer exposes their bias by calling one of the Doctors “KOOKY” with no real evidence to back it. I trust the “KOOKY DOCTOR” more than the bought and paid for pro-Vaxxine shills.
Nine most dangerous words you will ever hear – “I’m from the Government, and I’m here to help.”
Ronald Reagan
commented 2016-05-09 13:56:38 -0400
Please read this and put a question mark over each unanswered or theoretically answered question. Many of us are not ‘anti-vax’ as so many seem to presume. I would like to see the answers to all those question marks. There are a lot of studies that have not been done or perhaps have been done and are not being reported….sorry, but the pharmaceutical companies have a long history of deception which I cannot presume disappears simply because we are talking about vaccines. They have already paid out huge penalties for their tendency to withhold vital information. We are talking about babies health not having a philosophical discussion about vaccines. Most people would be satisfied if independent researchers were allowed to do the research. If I’ve missed this being done I would be grateful to be informed so this issue can be resolved and parents have peace of mind.
commented 2016-05-09 13:40:43 -0400
Science has been corrupted in several areas. That being said, I would rather have my child get vaccinated with a small chance of getting autism (my son does have autism) than not vaccinate and have a much larger chance of death due to any number of diseases and viruses.

As for things like the mercury argument. I read once where you would have to eat almost a truckload of apples to equal the amount of mercury in a single vaccination. Mercury is a naturally occurring substance so it would be very difficult to go completely mercury free.

My daughter just went through her first round of vaccination and got quite sick for three days or so, so there is a chance of an adverse reaction. We are debating delaying the second round for a couple months, but not doing the vaccination is just plain crazy.
commented 2016-05-09 13:18:47 -0400
Peter, why don’t you google it yourself, Im not a school teacher for the willfully ignorant.

Who knows you may learn something that will take you out of the mundanity of the partisan echo chamber.
commented 2016-05-09 13:16:47 -0400
Most answers can be found when you follow the money. The money story tells a whole lot about this issue. It is also insulting to intimate that all those concerned about vaccines are mindless followers of bloggers and extremists. Perhaps a broader range of inquiry on the part of those commenting would be beneficial. There are studies that have not been done. Those are the ones that interest me.
commented 2016-05-09 13:12:04 -0400
“Sometimes the CONSPIRACY is not THEORY”.
Scientific research fraud
Then there is outright fraud. In a 2011 survey of 2,000 research psychologists, over half admitted to selectively reporting those experiments that gave the result they were after. The survey also concluded that around 10 percent of research psychologists have engaged in outright falsification of data, and more than half have engaged in “less brazen but still fraudulent behavior such as reporting that a result was statistically significant when it was not, or deciding between two different data analysis techniques after looking at the results of each and choosing the more favorable.”
Then there’s everything in between human error and outright fraud: rounding out numbers the way that looks better, checking a result less thoroughly when it comes out the way you like, and so forth.

The peer review process doesn’t work. Most observers of science guffaw at the so-called “Sokal affair,” where a physicist named Alan Sokal submitted a gibberish paper to an obscure social studies journal, which accepted it. Less famous is a similar hoodwinking of the very prestigious British Medical Journal, to which a paper with eight major errors was submitted. Not a single one of the 221 scientists who reviewed the paper caught all the errors in it, and only 30 percent of reviewers recommended that the paper be rejected. Amazingly, the reviewers who were warned that they were in a study and that the paper might have problems with it found no more flaws than the ones who were in the dark.
From article “Big Science is Broken”
Pasquel Emmanual Gobry
The Week
commented 2016-05-09 13:02:22 -0400
Bill said, “There is plenty of evidence from within the medical establishment (including the CDC) that the vaccine supply has been contaminated and used more than once.”

Why don’t provide some links to prove that she is “on the wrong side of history on this one”, Bill?
commented 2016-05-09 12:57:09 -0400
You’re on the wrong side of history on this one Holly. There is plenty of evidence from within the medical establishment (including the CDC) that the vaccine supply has been contaminated and used more than once. THIS is the fear that causes people to distrust vaccines – according to many doctors they (vaccines) are misused and overused and THAT is factual.