June 01, 2016

Delusional AND callous: 9/11 Truther attempting to “recreate” Twin Tower events

David MenziesMission Specialist

Does anyone want to relive the trauma of September 11, 2001 in order to appease a bunch of nutters?

Most reasonable people are well aware of what happened that terrible day. A cabal of barbaric Islamists commandeered aircraft and carried out grotesque acts of mass-murder by flying those planes into the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon.

But within the conspiracy culture, the idea that 9/11 was an “inside job” carried out by George Bush or the Zionists, or the Illuminati is the new Holy Grail for the tinfoil-hat crowd. 9/11 is the big enchilada of conspiracy theories, blowing away the supposedly faked moon landing and JFK’s magic-bullet assassination.

Enter self-described “truth-seeker” Paul Salo who’s hoping to raise $1.5 million in order to recreate the events of 9-11, you know, to find out what “really happened.”

Salo set up a crowd-funding campaign on Indiegogo to raise the funds but since it violated their terms of use, they removed it.

Another conspiracy theory? No doubt.

Watch as I explain, with assistance from Ron Craig, an explosives and fire expert, why the “experiment” is doomed to fail any way, even if they could raise the funds, which experts say would be closer to $1 billion dollars.

In the meantime, can the conspiracy nuts please go back to promoting their previous favourite conspiracy chestnut? You know, that the 1969 moon landing was faked? They’re wrong on that one, too, of course but at least claiming the moon landing was an inside job isn’t re-victimizing the victims of 9/11.

Truth be told, I’m afraid that not only are the so-called Truthers delusional – they’re also a bunch of callous creeps.

Photo Credit: YouTube.com/Paul Salo

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commented 2016-06-06 17:52:45 -0400
David Ross……calculate the total weight of the top third of the building….then calculate how many foot pounds per square inch that is when it falls ten feet. Let me assure you steel I beams cannot take that. The drop forge that formed them only fell a matter of inches and did not weigh nearly as much as the top third of the building…..I know because I worked on a drop forge that made the components of steel I beams .

You can cast lead bullets over a parafin wax candle….you can make steel plyable enough to make horse shoes from straight bar over a wood fire….

The skin of an aircraft is an alloy of aluminum and magnesium…..those are the ingrediants of thermite….once ignited it will burn under water. The planes were loaded with aviation grade kerosene (an emulsion of parafin).

The gallant New York fire department who could have perhaps saved building seven had suffered too many casualties in the other two buildings and the fires in that building just burned too long for the steel structure to hold integrity. How can you doubt that fire can do this to steel? It was fire that put that steel in that form in the first place.

Now something that those who believe in the controled explosion theory can seem to explain is that none of the things they point to as evidence seem to have taken place above the floor of the aircraft impacts…and that was a different floor on both buildings. I am serious…I am dead serious. If you ever find yourself in a situation like that…get out of that building as quickly as you can….not because of any shinanigans on the part of George Bush…but because the building cannot take what happens next.
commented 2016-06-04 01:21:34 -0400
Glenn Craig, You still haven’t explained how simple combustable material fires in a high rise can cause steel to melt and a whole steel structure to melt and free fall let alone fall at all nice , neat and tidy . This has never happened in the history of mankind , never mind 3 in one morning and the 3rd one totally unrelated to the first two. Please , get serious here.
commented 2016-06-02 23:02:57 -0400
Mr Raymond….the reason why this is persistent and perennial……is because certain elements just ain’t gunna " keep it civilized"….and if they think their bad behaviour tantrums are going to win the day……
commented 2016-06-02 22:44:44 -0400
Hey guys, let’s keep,it civilized!
We all have our opinions and we may not agree but until things are made public let’s keep open minds on both sides!
But in the meantime,

commented 2016-06-02 22:10:17 -0400
David Ross…..as an exercise in cost management and a sort of obsession to maximise…we have had projects like Titanic…..the crew of Titanic knew how to sail around icebergs…..they didn’t learn how to sail around the owner’s obsession with optimizing.
commented 2016-06-02 21:50:38 -0400
The essence of this controversy is nested in a mutual distrust of motive……let the peacemakers among us focus on that,
commented 2016-06-02 21:25:38 -0400
@david ROSS……Oh Halleleuya!!!!!the messiah has returned!!!!!Please lead us oh exalted and fervently prayed for prophet…..I humbly submit myself and pray your indulgence and forgiveness for the error of my ways……please …..grant your blessing so that my mind may be one with the dharma ….grant your blessing so that dharma may progress along the path….grant your blessing so that the path may clarify confusion….grant your blessing so that confusion may dawn as wisdom……if that don’t satisfy you and make you happy David Ross…..you can kiss my ass.
commented 2016-06-02 21:21:35 -0400
Glenn Craig, Don’t try it with me. I’m one of the wide awake ones. No where near an MSM sheeple. Good try though.
commented 2016-06-02 21:17:54 -0400
Glenn Craig, You still haven’t explained how simple combustable material fires in a high rise can cause steel to melt and a whole steel structure to melt and free fall let alone fall at all nice , neat and tidy . This has never happened in the history of mankind , never mind 3 in one morning and the 3rd one totally unrelated to the first two. Please , get serious here.
commented 2016-06-02 21:13:30 -0400
C4 is the only thing that will cut structural steel like a knife. That steel did not break under load ( like a pile driver breaks ground ) . It was cut by melting ,even at the base , by intense heat, only something like C4 can generate. Jet fuel won’t do that even 90 floors up where the fire was, never mind at the base, 90 floors below the fire. There is overwhelming evidence that supports an inside job and no evidence worth considering to support a terrorist attack. Period. Besides, collapsing and bending steel doesn’t fall at free fall speed. Please, all you delusional sheeple that refuse to believe that a government we call our friends could murder its own people, you need a very harsh reality check. Its just history repeating itself. Some day , pray to god, you will all wake up before its too late.
commented 2016-06-02 21:12:14 -0400
David Ross…wether it was a plane loaded with fuel….a controled demolition….or a deliberate dive bombing by a Ju87 stuka…..the debris will all fall within a scant few feet of the line scribed by the foundation…..there is lots and lots and lots of historical and empirical bais for THAT assertion….the “fell within it’s footprint” assertion as if it were a smoking gun……sigh……fails to impress as an assertion of smoking gun……mook

The structural steel many floors below the point to be affected by heat were simply overwhealmed by the onslaught of everything falling and colliding from above…….if you are so certain of your challange…..then do the arithmatic and present it here…..

I have on many occassions demonstrated the absurdity of the lawyer rhetoric " go fetch proof little doggie"
commented 2016-06-02 20:57:28 -0400
Glenn Craig; Delusional no question. So building 7 came down because there were some fires field by furniture and paper on various floors. Your so cal;led professionals are completely out to lunch if they explain that away that the heat from those fires can cause structural steel to melt many floors below. You have the same disease your friends have.
By the way, there are recorded audio of a call to "pull building 7 " just before it came down. Fires in structural steel framed buildings have never in the history of the world caused the steel to melt and the buildings collapse in their own foot print. Now stop with the utter BS and open your f…ing eyes.
commented 2016-06-02 18:53:08 -0400
The top third was a pile driver that was more than enough force to cause the botton two thrids to fail…..I worked at a steel mill that used an asymetrical flywheel trip hammer….my friend and collegue is a millwright and structural steel engineer…my best friend’s father is a world class architect and structural engineer with military demolition background….none of us have any problem with the idea that you do not need to blow anything out of the way to cause this collapse….in fact you could not possibly do what the “truthers” claim to have happened. On any controlled demolition the explosions take out the corners and the main posts (the explosions are then a done deal and finished) and the structure collapses. I watched a 100 foot brick chimney from an old heating plant taken down by repeated taps at the base with a ball crane….when the structure failed it came apart like a shooting skeet and fell straight down with none of the debris more than a few feet from it’s footprint….the crane driver stayed in his crane the whole time….that’s just normal for gravity and bricks.

Now do you really think that fanatical agents of the Illuminatti and relatives of George Bush got at the base of that building and cut the beams with torches at an oblique angle? That happened as part of the debris removal……we have many examples of Islamists doing things that are suicidal to make a political point….but I find it hard to believe that the corporate villans would take that risk just because the military industrial complex was having a slow quarter in profits.

It cannot be denied …though it WAS covered up…that relatives of bin Ladin shit in George Bush’s toilet more often than any American did and Iraq took the beating that the Saudis deserved.

But I am astounded at how the conspiracy theorists have missed the painfully obvious…..whenever the Jews send a message to their enemies they target where he works….or where he lives…

American Zionists are in no way secretive….just look them up on Google….they play their cards face up and unabashedly……the day after the attacks I was unable to access about 30% of their sites on the internet……because their servers were located in the twin towers….duh….

An Osama bin Laden was indeed a creation and a shill of the CIA…..who went loose cannon as do so many of their high risk employees…..their Human Resource department really needs a policy review…..anyway…..it would never be made public in this century….but MY conspiracy theory is that the point where that plane hit the Pentagon was Paul Wolfowitz’s office…..Hey Alex Jones……how come that never occured to you?

Anyway Robert……I have never bought into the “warmonger” theory…..Belgium and the Czech Republic are major arms producers…as is Sweden….which produces most of the world’s naval guns (which is why they are staunchly neutral)……..no armourer in all of history has ever had to pick a fight in order to sell his wares.
commented 2016-06-02 17:57:23 -0400
Hey Glen,

True the top stories had red hot steel. Can you explain the bottom stories where there were no fires?
Still, how do you account for the structural steel that seemed to be cut as if by an oxyacetylene torch at 45 degree angles?
I’m not saying that the buildings did not come down as the MSM says they did but there has been way too much cover up going on. This is exactly what spawns conspiracy theories.
For example, where did the wings leave any indication of striking the Pentagone?
How about the flight that crashed in the field that left only a hole in th ground with little or no debris.
Why did the government and MSM cover things up?
There was more debris found in the Indian Ocean from the flight that disappeared last year.

So, if the evidence is there, then make it public. Don’t have boards of inquiry such as the 911 Commission carry sub rosa interviews with people in the know.

It’s not only the Truthers who are demanding answers but the families of victims as well.

If Bush and his crew had nothing to hide then why is their testimony not made public?

People say that to get to the bottom of a mystery, simply follow the money. Has anyone followed the money?

commented 2016-06-02 17:35:52 -0400
Stalingrad was full of buildings which came down in their own footprint even when hit with 250kg bombs….and the bricks fell at normal rate of free fall…..the bottom two thirds of a building cannot take the impact of the top third falling on it from metal failure…steel bends like butter at red heat…you do not have to liquify it.
commented 2016-06-02 17:25:46 -0400
@bill Elder , Something becomes much more believable or you become less sceptical when you have personal knowledge gained prior to the event. On international flights out of Toronto Pearson and then Miami , myself and a business associate were seated in business class seats. This was in December ,2000. I discovered a loose thread in my shirt so my friend said “here I can fix that”. Up he gets and retrieves a Leatherman tool from his carry on bag. I looked in amazement , shocked that they had allowed him to have that type of thing on an aircraft.
I had just read an article in the magazine “Airline Pilot” regarding the lack of security and the lax procedures and policies at major American airports regarding stuff that people could take into the cabin on flights. The article also detailed a list of the worst airports, citing Boston Logan as THE WORST surprise surprise. Also cited was how easy it would be for a group of terrorists to commandeer a commercial airliner with simple tools , the element of surprise and a shocking display of their will ie. slitting the throat of a passenger or filight attendent.
Although confidential and proprietory , the terrorist would have known that they could gain access to the flight deck because the order of the day was to co-operate and then negotiate.The scenario had been identified and practiced by security experts long before it was carried out almost flawlessly by Bin Ladens gang.
It was so easy , and as Occam’s razor advises, the most simple explanation is the solution to a problem.
commented 2016-06-02 15:30:50 -0400
Apparently there are more asses up , head buried deep in the sand people or people so absolutely inept mechanically that they wouldn’t be able to build a sand box if their life depended on it. No wonder the MSM puppets find it so easy to hide the truth in plain sight to you people. There are more people who are convinced 911 was an obvious inside despicable ,criminal sham than not. Better wake up or take a physics lesson.
commented 2016-06-02 11:46:38 -0400
“The damning evidence is overwhelming that 911 was an orchestrated inside job coordinated by Saudi Arabia and certain criminals inside the US government…. "

Let me finish that sentence for ya….

“…under the direction of Little Orphan Annie in collusion with the ghost of Ho Chi Minh.”

Holy f***. And you guys exercise your right to vote. No wonder the country is so f***** up.
commented 2016-06-02 09:16:08 -0400
David Menzies, Anyone nowadays and even at the time of 911 that still has their head stuck up their behinds regarding the laws of physics and the 911 disgraceful, criminal scam needs to be committed to a mental institution. A grade school student can look at how all 3 buildings literally came down in their own footprint and know there is no other way except by a well engineered implosion. Menzies ,you are suffering from a mental and emotional form of denial that requires medical attention. The damning evidence is overwhelming that 911 was an orchastrated inside job coordinated by Saudi Arabia and certain criminals inside the US government. On the other hand , there is pathetically minuscule evidence supporting the Main Stream Media narrative that untrained , uneducated cavemen defied the laws of air flight capability and flew huge jets into the towers, and that building 7 also collapsed in its own footprint because of office combustable fuel fires (that melted steel) on a few floors. David Menzies and the rest of you Main Stream Media zombies need to wake up. And The Rebel, shame on you for printing such MSM drivel and nonsense, that dumbed down, fast asleep people like Menzies continue to parrot regarding 911.
commented 2016-06-02 02:14:50 -0400
The best source I know for the facts not theories of what happened to the WTC buildings is at Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth. The information is provided by professionals in these fields. They provide evidence from the event. I have personally demolished buildings up to six floors above grade. I am convinced that WTC 1, 2, and 7 were brought down by controlled demolition. The next question is who was responsible for the demolition?
commented 2016-06-02 01:22:53 -0400
gotta love these idiots who think the crap they spew actually happened.
commented 2016-06-02 01:21:56 -0400
John S the Russian puppet in the Ukraine was legally required to vacate , he did not, or does their constitution not matter to tinfoilers like you? So stick your Russian hero where the Sun don’t shine loser, Ukrainians do not want Russia to own them idiot and the Brazil thing was corruption moron. And please tell your Muslim buddies to quit interfering in Israels business idiot.
commented 2016-06-02 00:20:50 -0400
The 9/11 box cutter theory is at least aas credible as the Warren commission’s magic bullet theory.
commented 2016-06-01 21:26:52 -0400
So if he ever does get permission there is one positive thing that can be done. It would make an excellent photo op for his Majesty’s sir truedope.
commented 2016-06-01 20:22:43 -0400
I’m sorry, have people always been this stupid or has TV and the internet done this to the human brain?
commented 2016-06-01 19:47:31 -0400
@john Landry Ask Box Boy* and his “more than 2300 [9/11 crackpots]” to show you on video with audio how explosives or incendiaries secretly cut the 4.91" flanges, 3.07" webs, and 215 in^2 cross-sectional areas of W14 X 730 columns like the 11 of 24 in your Sacred Tower 7’s core, and the 4 corner columns in each tower’s core: http://www.ochshorndesign.com/cornell/writings/milstein-critique/images/8-fig04.png
If they ever HAD TO do it, your confusion would quickly be over.
*Box Boy’s ONLY 9/11 “research”:
commented 2016-06-01 18:21:19 -0400
Building Seven!
commented 2016-06-01 18:05:24 -0400
They insult all those poor souls that perished that day, by continuing this never ending BS saga. And they continue to insult the family and friends of those lost to terrorism. No amount of evidence will ever satisfy these so called truthers! It’s better not to even give them the time of day. Let the dead rest in peace!
commented 2016-06-01 18:01:58 -0400
Sure John. I am sure you have that Arts Degree that mommy and daddy paid for. We used to laugh at you losers in University. You believe in the moon landing so you are normal now? You are a fucking retard. Now off the computer as the guy who eats bugs and believes he was hatched wants to use the computer.
commented 2016-06-01 17:50:38 -0400
I have plenty of post secondary credentials so you obviously know nothing about me. The fact is I do not assume everything is a lie. I believe the moon landing happened since we probably had the technology to do so. Again your argument is that black/white thing where you are either purely one or purely another with no in-between. Now who is the moron because I just proved you are an amateur in your arguing.