March 30, 2015

Despite Liberal and NDP opposition House votes to take fight to ISIS

Brian LilleyArchive

In a vote that was in many ways a forgone conclusion, the House of Commons voted 142 to 129 on Monday night to extend Canada’s mission against the Islamic State.

When he introduced the motion to extend the mission last week, Prime Minister Stephen Harper told the House that Canada does not need to choose between fighting ISIS and helping its victims, that the country can do both but that fighting ISIS must be part of the equation.

“Canadians did not invent the threat of jihadi terrorism and we certainly did not invite it, nor as this global threat becomes ever more serious can we protect ourselves, our communities by choosing to ignore it,” Harper said.

The motion to extend the current mission was supported by the Conservatives and opposed by the NDDP, Liberals, Bloc Quebecois and Greens.

Prior to the vote, the House voted on several NDP amendments to the motion that if passed would have called on Canada to end all military activity and expand Canada’s already extensive humanitarian efforts in the region. The Liberals joined the Conservatives in voting the amendments down.

Both of the major opposition parties have said they do not support the mission, questioning its legality under international law and raising concerns that Canada’s bombing of ISIS positions in Syria could help that country’s embattled rule Bashar a-Assad.

“Don’t forget, we’re helping a bloody dictator,” Mulcair said when asked why he opposed the mission.

Liberal leader Justin Trudeau said he was also concerned about the legality of bombing in Syria but said his main concern was the unintended consequence of Canadian bombs helping Assad.

That’s a view the Harper government has rejected, defence minister Jason Kenney saying denied that Canada was taking Assad’s side.

“We should not allow our opposition to the Assad regime to give this genocidal terrorist organization a safe haven in parts of the country that Bashar al-Assad either refuses to or cannot control,” Kenney said.

 Kenney said Canada is not taking sides in the Syrian civil war, other than the side of the vulnerable minority communities that have been targeted by ISIS.

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commented 2015-03-31 17:36:34 -0400
David K. You really must be a cookie not yet baked. Ted A. you are very angry for all the wrong reasons. But both of you bring your friends next time. We can debate the whys and why nots of playing nice with murderers who hide behind their own women and children and then cry foul.

Ted, why would anyone email you to debate, when a welcoming forum such as this exists.

Don’t forget Ezra went on CBC radio after The Sun set, was intervied by Carol Off, (and she sure was).
commented 2015-03-31 16:01:29 -0400
Ted Alden reminds me of the British PM Chamberlin. Appease them and they will go away. Give them what they want and they will go away. Sorry Ted, the enemy is already here in Canada. If you are that insensitive to the plight of helpless women and children as the Liberal leader appears to be. Then you really don’t deserve to be called a Canadian, eh? ISIS wants a fight and threatens the West then ok Canada will show them we have teeth also and do bit back. Crawl into your little hole Ted; you coward.
commented 2015-03-31 16:00:58 -0400
C’mon David pull your head out if ignorance is bliss you must be awfully blissful
commented 2015-03-31 15:44:06 -0400
When and where did ISIS attack us ?
commented 2015-03-31 14:44:49 -0400
It’s hilarious how people attempt to reason with unreasonable people. Liberals cannot understand the concept of fighting for your life. Let them die. Throw them under the bus even. Don’t waste your time attempting to reason with them when you can put your focus and attention on means of eradicating the imminent threat.

There will always be a large percentage of any population unwilling to confront serious problems, never mind fight for their rights or lives. Those willing and able to fight, should fight. Yes it includes on your own streets, in your own cities, and with your own unreasonable elected twits like Trudeau. If you can’t fire a rifle at least get out and vote. Always attempt to improve your society, not denigrate it or sell it out.
commented 2015-03-31 14:38:49 -0400
Apparently because Iran sides with the Syrian dictator, Obama is afraid to get too serious with any action in Syria against ISIS? If this is the case, Harper was dammed if he did and dammed if he didn’t increase Canadas efforts against ISIS in the region which could be seen as siding with Saudi Arabia as Obama was pushing his “deal” with Obama-friendly Iran which may further piss Obama off in his already known dislike for Canada and who knows, cause even more American money to find its way into CBC/Liberal Party/anti-Canadian environmentalist groups determined to defeat the Conservatives in the next election!
commented 2015-03-31 14:16:03 -0400
Ted Alden – The one and ONLY reason Sun News didn’t “make it” was that the Communist CRTC denied them the mandatory carriage that all left-wing media outlets enjoy. CBC, CTV and Global are all biased to the left, which is why I never watch or listen to them. I can’t be brainwashed; I recognize bullshit when I see it. I find it positively stunning how brainwashed you lefties allow yourselves to be!
If you don’t wake up soon, Canada will be destroyed, either by Liberals or by islamic terrorists. Both are just as destructive.
commented 2015-03-31 11:46:53 -0400
Ted Alden:
Ted, When I was young, and stupid like almost all young people, I would spend my money on things like Bob Dylan and Joan Baez albums, and so on, but eventually I grew up. This thought made me realize that I have not been gracious to you in my previous rant about an hour or so ago.

I sometimes feel that, among all the good people who contribute to this site, we are often “preaching to the choir” (I understand from your other writings that you are an atheist, but I’m sure that you know what I mean). I’m trying to say that we should be more welcoming to others who, like you, have not yet grown up, who are still trying to determine who they are and trying to find their place in this world.

So I say, you are a welcome visitor here, grow with us, and please spread the word to your friends, loved ones and acquaintances. Like Us on Facebook, Tweet about us on Twitter, your help is much appreciated, and thank you for your support.
commented 2015-03-31 11:29:38 -0400
Ted you reminded me of other people of your ilk,like Suzuki Evan Solomon bob fife to name a few you bitch and complain on conservative values and yet you have absolutely no solution to any problem what so ever, your people have really got to get together and come up with a better argument to everything from climate change to wars to that pedophile sex ed crap in Ontario. Fun fact, Trudeau sr. made millions making bullets and bombs for the Vietnam war.
commented 2015-03-31 11:09:07 -0400
one thing I have a hard time with is people who come on here using anonymous. It means there to chicken to use there own name. If you ever notice i never us anonymous. as for the exstension in the middle east i think we need to be there . it’s our obligation to defend the Christians that are being slautered over in the middle east. i just wish we had a better partener from the south of us. Someone who knows what there doing. that is my concern. and we have to help out Isreal to as much as we can.
commented 2015-03-31 11:01:36 -0400
We have people, including world leaders like British PM David Cameron and U.S. President Barrack Obama, still claiming that Islam is a religion of peace, much in line with Justin Trudeau’s thinking, who in the aftermath of the attack on Charlie Hebdo, described the perpetrators as representing “a perversion of Islam…distorted ideology and propaganda masquerading as religion”. Tell us, Ted Alden, since you have read so many books, do you agree with Obama and Trudeau?
commented 2015-03-31 10:37:17 -0400
Ted, thanks for the opinion and commentary, it is refreshing to read other individuals bias opinions, it gives me solace that there are still places one can spout and rant, regarding their bias. Though, I am not sure you would want to call me names to my face… (Clown face inserted) from one clown to another.
commented 2015-03-31 10:18:51 -0400
Love the photo of the Canadian Idol! Making sure every hair is in place for the cameras or does he have a tele-prompter in his ear that is telling him what to say? He places his vanity before the lives of thousands of men, women, and children who are being terrorized by ISIS! Someone commented that this vote will be recorded for history. I doubt it considering how the revisionists are rewriting the Canadian story.
commented 2015-03-31 10:17:35 -0400
Ted Alden: Your shallow and feeble attempt at commentary is the very epitome of your criticism of this website and the people who contribute to it. That is to say, “one derisive remark after another, yet not one of any substance”.

Although I’m unable to speak to the quantity or quality of books that others have read, I would mention that I do know several clowns who are certainly not useless, but productively give a great deal of their personal time to raising the spirits of the sick and the elderly.

Robert West and others have already pointed out just how absurd your comment was regarding Vietnam.

I do believe that it is true however, just as you say, that “the media party” do not want anything to do with us, but it would be for fear that they would be exposed as being the toady lickspittles that they are, but I’m not aware of any invitation that has been turned down due to a shortage of guts.

Mind you, I did catch on TV some time ago an episode of something called Zoomer that did have Ezra Levant as one of the panel guests, an event that renders another of your remarks as representing your blatent disregard for the truth.

Ted, thank you for the invitation to contact you via e-mail but I will decline, but not because “I’m not up to it”. Please, have a nice day.
commented 2015-03-31 10:12:12 -0400
David Kitchen, ISIL declared war on us when Canadian jihadis in their group encouraged their supporters to carry out attacks on military personnel and unbelievers in this country and they actually did. I believe their own videos are all over the net for you to research. Therefore, no need to play defense any longer.

Ted Alden, thanks for the morning comedy routine. Yes every war has to be someone’s “Vietnam” – how superficial your understanding of history and military history in particular are. You ask for substance but provide absolutely none for your own position. Unlike you, I have not only read books on the Middle East, I have been there and have friends and relatives that work there. Here are some facts – supported by ISIL themselves in their videos and web postings: they are willing to kill non-believers, believers who are not as “holy” as them, gays, “adulterers”, “apostates”; willing to rape (including underage and pre-pubescent girls), sell people into slavery. I am not sure where your particular level of head-in-fundament is, but I believe even you have some moral tipping point where you would agree that these actions are an abomination to civilization and needs to be opposed. As for your comments on the Media Party, I think you answered some of your own questions without even realizing it.

’“Don’t forget, we’re helping a bloody dictator,” Mulcair said when asked why he opposed the mission."
This is the moral equivalent of someone opposing further participation in WW2 once Hitler attacked Russia because we would be “helping” Stalin.
commented 2015-03-31 10:11:22 -0400
Harper is right.
commented 2015-03-31 10:10:21 -0400
TED ALDEN you people make me laugh, you are against everything Harper stands for, you dislike the rebel and all who support it, yet here you are.
As for not knowing about whats going on in the Middle East, what makes you the expert, I read many articles and accounts from people much more in the know than you,obviously from your words you are reading the wrong information and telling us we are wrong, what a joke you are.
Thats a good little boy, keep believing the pablum you are being fed and walk around with blinders on, there, there everything will be ok ,
commented 2015-03-31 10:00:12 -0400
DAVID why are you asking , are you saying ISIS has not threatened to attack Canada ?
I thought a threat to attack a country was a declaration of war by those declaring it,or does it have to be declared legally for you to call it a declaration of war.
ISIS has called upon Muslims to use what ever means possible, cars, lone wolf attacks, any means possible to kill Canadians.

Of course we expected the little boy and little angry man to appose it and their followers, what else is new from those complete idiots and people like TED who swallow their pablum, they have blinders on.
I would like to teleport them right into the middle of ISIS atrocities and let them see, experience the horrific butchering, they don’t seem to have the compassion to be able to understand whats going on.
Anyone with an ounce of compassion would stand with Harper and the rest of the world trying to stop the spread of radical Islam.
I just cannot fathom these people’s minds who appose fighting Radical Islam.
commented 2015-03-31 09:48:54 -0400
Sorry Teddy alden, no time to read your post I have to go to work, now finish your lucky charms and get to school
commented 2015-03-31 09:30:12 -0400
Thankfully there are enough adults in the HOC to pass the motion to continue the fight against the terrorists that want to kill the West. When the first Libturd gets his head sawed off Mad Tom and the Wannabe-Child will be wailing that the Govt. didn’t do enough to stop the scourge.
commented 2015-03-31 09:06:24 -0400
I expect well see some industrial strength pouting and sulking from Justin and Angry Tom in the next little while.
commented 2015-03-31 08:58:54 -0400
David Kitchen – you’re living in the past. ISIL never declared war (according to some useless UN/Geneva convention thingy). ISIL just started attacking and killing. You want your declaration? Go look it up in a history book. And welcome to the new world – attack without warning. This help to clear up your cluttered mind?
commented 2015-03-31 07:01:55 -0400
Robert you stated that ISIL declared war on us. Would you expand on that please ? When did this happen ?
commented 2015-03-31 06:26:20 -0400
Ted, in case you forgot, ISIL declared war on us. To compare this situation to Vietnam,is to really
stretch the issue. North Vietnam had the support of both China and Russia during that war and the tactical situation is not even close.

Just one question. How would you deal with this group? Just let them continue on killing and raping people?
commented 2015-03-31 04:54:39 -0400
Well, let’s sleepwalk right into harper’s little Vietnam. What a useless bunch of clowns you Rebel people are. Tell me something, have any of you even read a single book on the Middle East or ISIS? Have any of you read anything on the subject? Just one clown after another with one derisive remark after another, yet not one of any substance. Or how about Brian Lilley there. Say Brian, is the reason you guys call all the rest of the industry “the media party” because none of them want anything to do with you clowns. I mean everyone else can make it on these news shows and pundit panels, but just not any of you Rebel and Sun people. Why is that? Is that you’re not invited? Or is it rather, as I’ve been told, you boys just don’t have he guts to go on. That the rest of the boys will take you clowns out for the stupid remarks you make. News is that it’s the latter. If there does come a day, when you fools think you’re up for it, contact me, OK?
commented 2015-03-31 02:25:25 -0400
As usual the PM makes a tough decision to do the right thing about this murderous organization and the mighty leftists crawl cowering into their dark little corner specially designed for the hypocrites they are……
commented 2015-03-31 01:14:56 -0400
Would love to bitch slap that!! Grrrrrrr!!
commented 2015-03-31 00:14:51 -0400
Now, to keep the bureaucrats from meddling in what the military knows how to do, and does best…
commented 2015-03-30 23:37:56 -0400
Let’s just hope we can get it done.
commented 2015-03-30 22:51:46 -0400
So true Brian Peckett! I applaud your response.