March 17, 2018

Do Ontarians share Wynne’s fear of “cannabis next to candy bars”?

David MenziesMission Specialist

 

Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne is condemning PC Leader Doug Ford’s idea about having cannabis sold by private sector retailers.

Wynne is all about promoting a doomed government monopoly approach to selling pot, and in condemning private sector involvement, she claims Ontarians don’t want “cannabis sold next to candy bars.”

But, when it comes to age-restricted products, private sector convenience stores already sell many of those products right next to candy bars. In smaller communities, that includes more than 200 convenience stores that sell beer, wine, and spirits, that have been doing so for decades.

The ostensible policy reason for giving government control over liquor and weed retailing boils down to that murky concept known as “social responsibility.”

Yet studies show convenience stores scored the highest in refusal rates when tested with underage secret shoppers.

In 2012, the Ontario Convenience Stores Association delivered the largest single petition ever collected in Ontario’s history with hundreds of thousands of signatories who wanted to see more competition in beer and wine sales through convenience stores.

Clearly, Wynne doesn’t speak for all Ontarians on a supposed resistance to seeing cannabis next to candy bars.

Government’s role when it comes to any product is to regulate and tax the stuff, not to warehouse and retail it, especially when nanny-state monopolies do such a poor job of it.

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commented 2018-03-23 12:58:42 -0400
Too bad you couldn’t retain a little better grammar in all that book learning talent.

You’re actually quite comical.. you should consider a career in entertainment.
commented 2018-03-23 12:58:22 -0400
Too bad you couldn’t retain a little better grammar is all that book learning talent.

You’re actually quite comical.. you should consider a career in entertainment.
commented 2018-03-23 03:41:59 -0400
If you want to see more than just the tops of the building then use better optics and you can do that yourself. You self-proclaimed intellects are really something else.
commented 2018-03-23 03:40:24 -0400
yer a what.?!? Lol. Don’t confuse remembering a topic with absolute knowledge retention… A parrot here is the words " polly want a cracker " and do you think for one second this bird actually understands the words that it saying because it heard them from somewhere.. don’t confuse hearing any topic and now have the ability to comment on it with the weight of a PhD… No your ability is not much different than a parrot.. Nice try though.!
commented 2018-03-22 11:48:51 -0400
Flat earth. .Flat water commented 2018-03-22 01:29:52 -0400
Andrew Stephenson … You must be five or 600 years old because you have a degree in everything from medicine, theology, astrophysics, right down to mechanical and civil engineering degrees as well as avionics and you probably hold a fixed wing multi engine along with nighttime instrumentation pilots license as well…!!"

As I’ve said before, I"m an aspie, which means I retain just about everything I readd. And I read a lot. I’m working on my pilots license but don’t quite have the multiengine nightime rating yet. Expensive business, that. :)

“No anny… You can’t bend water.. stirring a liquid does by no means represent the curvature of the planet and the water that bends around it. Once you remove the force that’s agitating the water water goes flat . The ocean I n the micro water moves a bit in the macro it’s almost static and you cannot compare stirred coffee to an entire ocean at rest. Man you really do appeal to the stupid.!

When you stop applying a force, it goes flat? (I’m not talking about the turbulence from a spoon, I’m referring to the “vortex” that you get while the liquid’s still moving – the equilibrium is non-flat since the force vector is outward and centripetal, so varies by radius) So, if you apply a force, you can maintain non-"flat’ orientation for extended periods of time? a force … such as a spherical gravitational field? By the way, if you think gravitational fields can’t be distorted, how do you explain tides?

“Flat earth. .Flat water commented 2018-03-22 01:35:41 -0400
I looked at your fixed and faux picture.. I totally question the credibility of that shot… "

You can replicate the circumstances yourself. You can see downtown Toronto from Niagara on the Lake across Lake Ontario but only the tops of the buildings, the bottoms are hidden below the horizon.

It’s still not clear why someone would do that.

For the third time, why is the sun so much higher in Toronto in mid-December at noon than in Edmonton? What’s the flat-earth explanation for something that you can easily observe with your own eyes or a protractor and a plumb-bob?
commented 2018-03-22 01:35:41 -0400
I looked at your fixed and faux picture.. I totally question the credibility of that shot… There is no information as to how far and it was a fixed picture… Very subject to Photoshop. While everything I have said is true you try to counter with the Photoshop fixed picture.. nice try.. videos are far more convincing.
commented 2018-03-22 01:29:52 -0400
Andrew Stephenson … You must be five or 600 years old because you have a degree in everything from medicine, theology, astrophysics, right down to mechanical and civil engineering degrees as well as avionics and you probably hold a fixed wing multi engine along with nighttime instrumentation pilots license as well…!!

No anny… You can’t bend water.. stirring a liquid does by no means represent the curvature of the planet and the water that bends around it. Once you remove the force that’s agitating the water water goes flat . The ocean I n the micro water moves a bit in the macro it’s almost static and you cannot compare stirred coffee to an entire ocean at rest. Man you really do appeal to the stupid.!
commented 2018-03-21 20:25:40 -0400
You do your best to keep the gullible stupid and I will do my best to awaken those that are capable of critical thought… You will never concede no matter how right anybody is but I have woken many but I’m sure you’ve kept many slumbering too.
commented 2018-03-21 20:24:01 -0400
You do your best to keep the gullible stupid and I will do my best to awaken those that are capable of of critical thought… You will never concede no matter how right anybody is but I have woken many but I’m sure you’ve kept many slumbering too.
commented 2018-03-21 20:16:09 -0400
“Flat earth. .Flat water commented 2018-03-21 19:07:50 -0400
Looking at a boat 15 miles away with high-powered optics is common and doable. At 15 miles the curvature in the earth should take that boat somewhere around 60 feet or more below the outside of the horizon and making it impossible to see at all but it can be seen perfectly with decent optics that those distances . in fact the only thing limiting your vision across the ocean is the power of your optics… The more high power your optics the further without effort you will see your object past a 15 mile marker. This is done everyday by boats on the ocean” This is by oceangoing vessels, where a captain is often 50 feet up, looking at another boat that’s often itself 50+ feet tall. Even though you can’t see the entire thing since the lower bit is below the horizon, you can still see the rest of it.

“Very similar as to looking down train tracks where they no longer appear to be running parallel but appeared to be running together… Nice try Annie.. "
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Horizon%2C_Valencia_%28Spain%29.JPG

Is that also a perspective trick?

“all foundations are built flat and none of them are built curved.. longer bridges are built with a bow which gives them a structural advantage and extra weight carrying capacity using lighter materials but none of them are designed with an 8 drop over every m2. You lie you’re a flat out lier..”

Curvature is negligible over the scale of a building.

Yes, bridges arch, but that doesnt’ explain non-parallel support towers. There are very few mile-long bridges, but every single one that does, has the same slight adjustment in tower alignment to keep them perpendicular to the surface.

“Flat earth. .Flat water commented 2018-03-21 18:53:28 -0400
Incidentally folks the Coriolis effect is what gives the illusion that a boat is going over the horizon one piece at a time…”

The Coriolis effect is what makes hurricanes rotate. If you head north or south, your east-west speed will tend to stay at that of the latitude you started, but (assuming no correction or substantial friction – hurricanes are quite well lubricated) the earth will move faster or slower than that beneath you, leading you to curve around.

" Incidentally Annie you can’t bend water and that’s a physics experiment you can try anywhere. "

It’s very easy. You do it every time you stir coffee – notice the parabolic surface while the coffee’s still moving? . At equilibrium, water’s surface is always perpendicular to the force applied – be that gravity, or the combined force of gravity and centripetal force in rotating coffee. Water is thus perpendicular to gravity, which aims to the core (except for the slight equatorial bulge due to centripetal forces there, and some generally small ground density variations that can pull it laterally. That effect is used to find oil, incidentally).

By the way, why is the sun so much lower in Edmonton tahn Toronto on the same day?
commented 2018-03-21 19:20:40 -0400
But anyway Bob back to you… You keep asking me if the earth is flat or not.. you ask me that question like you don’t know the answer for your own self.. it is unimportant what I believe but what is important is if you can believe the the people telling you it is round or flat based on why you believe them. I generally find if there is insane amounts of money then there is usually a great effort in controlling the masses.. people love money unfortunately and just as unfortunately they will lie until they’re lies become self perpetuating to ensure there is no hiccups in the money train.. Believe what you want to believe but be sure that neither one side or the other is lying to you for your support or tax dollars…!
commented 2018-03-21 19:07:50 -0400
Looking at a boat 15 miles away with high-powered optics is common and doable. At 15 miles the curvature in the earth should take that boat somewhere around 60 feet or more below the outside of the horizon and making it impossible to see at all but it can be seen perfectly with decent optics that those distances . in fact the only thing limiting your vision across the ocean is the power of your optics… The more high power your optics the further without effort you will see your object past a 15 mile marker. This is done everyday by boats on the ocean… Incidentally Annie you can’t bend water and that’s a physics experiment you can try anywhere. You’re so uninformed and pretentious it’s beyond sickening.!!
commented 2018-03-21 19:07:46 -0400
Looking at a boat 15 miles away with high-powered optics is common and doable. At 15 miles the curvature in the earth should take that boat somewhere around 60 feet or more below the outside of the horizon and making it impossible to see at all but it can be seen perfectly with decent optics that those distances . in fact the only thing limiting your vision across the ocean is the power of your optics… The more high power your optics the further without effort you will see your object past a 15 mile marker. This is done everyday by boats on the ocean… Incidentally Annie you can’t bend water and that’s a physics experiment you can try anywhere. You’re so uninformed and pretentious it’s beyond sickening
commented 2018-03-21 18:53:28 -0400
Incidentally folks the Coriolis effect is what gives the illusion that a boat is going over the horizon one piece at a time… High-power optics will show you you can reach out 15 miles or more across the ocean with a visual when a boat has long since disappeared out of sight with the naked eye.. and once again the whole boat becomes visible and it’s just an optical illusion that it has disappeared over the horizon … Very similar as to looking down train tracks where they no longer appear to be running parallel but appeared to be running together… Nice try Annie.. why do you and people like you feel the need to lie so often and so much and be caught so many times that you lose your credibility but you keep lying anyway..!! I guess you’re always hoping to trap the unwary.
commented 2018-03-21 18:48:17 -0400
Bob.. I sincerely apologize to you and I do… That remark was for Andrew Stevenson and everything below was for her… And Annie you better go research with the Coriolis effect is one more time before you try to convince people you know what you’re talking about.
commented 2018-03-21 18:40:21 -0400
You’re so smart you could instantly become one of my heroes whom I would follow blindly…hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahah don’t hold your breath for that.!!
And by the way Bob everything, disregarding any theories of round or flat earth.. everything including all foundations are built flat.. I thought I would throw that at you as a trick question to see how you would answer it and just as pre-disposed as I thought you’d lied your way through it.. all foundations are built flat and none of them are built curved.. longer bridges are built with a bow which gives them a structural advantage and extra weight carrying capacity using lighter materials but none of them are designed with an 8 drop over every m2. You lie you’re a flat out lier..
Your information is only your imagination qualified by your opinion with not even a modicum of research or truth to it. You think everybody on here lies about their experience and credentials just because you do.. anybody else posting here associated in any field of engineering will know this as well.. however this thread is old and people have long since grown tired of you as have I. You are not worthy of a debate because you cannot be truthful at any level. You engage with subterfuge and are proud of it. Your problem or one of them anyway is that you confuse crafty with applicable intellect which you obviously have neither.
I can’t wait for your next reply but I will be moving on because you are too stupid to train and too prideful to realize it.!
commented 2018-03-21 18:20:21 -0400
See bob.. you have all the answers.. especially if you know pilots and engineers on a first name basis.. and I’m sure that somebody of your stature in society is on a first name basis to many many professional people involved in the sciences, geophysics aeronautics, and undoubtably you’re exposed to many many smart people who are more than glad to exercise their opinion to your held belief.
I believe you have answered your own question.
commented 2018-03-21 18:14:37 -0400
I will post my answer for you again…

And if you don’t know if the earth is a round ball spinning from west to east at 1000 miles an hour rotating around the sun and 500,000 miles an hour while travelling through space down the Milky Way at 50,000,000 miles an hour or a flat plane devoid of noticeable movement which many many physics experiments have cast doubt on computer-generated images… The curve in the earth is 8 inches for every mile to the 2nd power so do the math. The first 5 miles is a drop of 16 feet. But no matter where you are or how high you are the horizon is always at eye level. Now maybe you should ask some railroad engineers or some bridge engineers the Formulas used to compensate for 8 inches every Mile sqd drop they must deal with.

Perhaps ask pilots the measures they take to land a plane on a spinning ball
(actually spinning faster than their airplane flies ) once they have broken their plane away from the initial inertia (take off) and now need to ground/land it… but I trust that the government organizations wouldn’t lie to us and they have shown us many many pictures of moon landings and pictures of the earth from space so we all know undoubtedly that the earth is round because of the pictures we have seen. and we all know the gravity is strong enough to hold trillions of gallons of water upside down but gentle enough to let a butterfly flutter from flower to flower. So now if you don’t know if the earth is flat or round by now then you got issues.. those pictures sure got me convinced.. so there you have it Bob… The earth is round don’t you know.
commented 2018-03-21 18:14:03 -0400
Flat earth. .Flat water commented 2018-03-21 02:37:07 -0400
""hour or a flat plane devoid of noticeable movement which many many physics experiments have cast doubt on computer-generated images…"
You can’t feel steady motion, only acceleration. The sensation of speed in a car is due to unevenness in the road, bumps being perceived as accelerations in one direction or another. Freefalling objects don’t experience. this.

No physics experiment has ever demonstrated such things. Have you ever noticed that you “keep up” with the sun while flying from Europe to North America? “The curve in the earth is 8 inches for every mile to the 2nd power so do the math. The first 5 miles is a drop of 16 feet. But no matter where you are or how high you are the horizon is always at eye level. Now maybe you should ask some railroad engineers or some bridge engineers the Formulas used to compensate for 8 inches every Mile sqd drop they must deal with.”

The horizon being at "eye leveL’ (it’s actually slightly below) is basic geometry – that’s how tangents work. Note how the distance to the horizon varies depending on the height of the observer? You can see Barrie from the top of the CN tower, but not from ground level, and from Niagara on the Lake you can only see the top half of the tower.

They do deal with it. Very long suspension bridges have measurably non-parallel towers.

“Perhaps ask pilots the measures they take to land a plane on a spinning ball
(actually spinning faster than a the airplane flies ) once they have broken their plane away from the initial inertia and now need to ground/land it… "
You don’t “break away” from the inertia. You do indeed “slow down” when accelerating westbound. Navigation does need to consider the Coriolis effect.

“but I trust that the government organizations wouldn’t lie to us and they have shown us many many pictures of moon landings and pictures of the earth from space so we all know undoubtedly that the earth is round because of the pictures we have seen”Why would they lie about it? It’s seriously a conspiracy without a cause. I also know it’s round because I can see how high the sun is at noon at different latitudes. Flying between Toronto and Edmonton all the time lets you do that. It’s pretty evident, especially in winter- it’s about twice as far above the horizon in Toronto, which makes sense since its’ about twice as far from the arctic circle.

“. and we all know the gravity is strong enough to hold trillions of gallons of water upside down but gentle enough to let a butterfly flutter from flower to flower. Water is never being held “upside down”. Down is down, towards the core of the earth.
commented 2018-03-21 11:50:23 -0400
Flat earth. .Flat water,

I am sure everyone here would be curious to know if you actually think the Earth is flat or if you think it is round.

Is the Earth flat – yes or no.
commented 2018-03-21 08:04:12 -0400
“We”… what… you got a mouse in your pocket or something .??
commented 2018-03-21 03:48:59 -0400
Flat earth. .Flat water,

I know the Earth is round and have known that for as long as I have been alive – we were trying to find out if YOU know that the Earth is round given your user name and your endless avoidance of answering either way.

Not to mention the fact that there are conservative morons out there that are convinced that the Earth is flat and have started a new movement, so it wouldn’t surprise me if you are part of that club.
commented 2018-03-21 02:47:22 -0400
So I’m sure you will take the liberties to freely misquote me… But who cares it’s only you.
commented 2018-03-21 02:42:43 -0400
And actually it is your name while you’re using it.. your hiding behind it.
commented 2018-03-21 02:40:34 -0400
Yeah… It was pretty funny when he used to but it was way more funny when I used it and you really are too stupid to learn and to dumb and ignorant to be insulted..

But that’s just everybody’s take on you…I could be wrong. Lol
commented 2018-03-21 02:37:07 -0400
And if you don’t know if the earth is a round ball spinning from west to east at 1000 miles an hour rotating around the sun and 500,000 miles an hour while travelling through space down the Milky Way at 50,000,000 miles an hour or a flat plane devoid of noticeable movement which many many physics experiments have cast doubt on computer-generated images… The curve in the earth is 8 inches for every mile to the 2nd power so do the math. The first 5 miles is a drop of 16 feet. But no matter where you are or how high you are the horizon is always at eye level. Now maybe you should ask some railroad engineers or some bridge engineers the Formulas used to compensate for 8 inches every Mile sqd drop they must deal with.

Perhaps ask pilots the measures they take to land a plane on a spinning ball
(actually spinning faster than a the airplane flies ) once they have broken their plane away from the initial inertia and now need to ground/land it… but I trust that the government organizations wouldn’t lie to us and they have shown us many many pictures of moon landings and pictures of the earth from space so we all know undoubtedly that the earth is round because of the pictures we have seen. and we all know the gravity is strong enough to hold trillions of gallons of water upside down but gentle enough to let a butterfly flutter from flower to flower. So now if you don’t know if the earth is flat or round by now then you got issues.. those pictures sure got me convinced.. so there you have it Bob… The earth is round don’t you know.
commented 2018-03-21 02:11:43 -0400
Flat earth. .Flat water,

Yes, it was hilarious when Andrew Dice Clay used that joke in 1990. Considering my name isn’t Bob, your lame attempt at a insult has no impact on me.

So answer now – is the Earth flat or round, because you haven’t denied that the Earth is flat every single I mocked you, which would lead anyone to believe that you do think the Earth is flat.

Let’s clear this up now. Is the Earth flat or round? If you continue to ignore this, then I have no choice, but to think you are a Flat Earther, since a normal person would say of course the Earth is round.
commented 2018-03-21 01:46:45 -0400
Neil and bob…. hahahahahahah. Hahahahahahahahah. It is just still way too funny..!!

And for some reason you keep implying that somewhere in this thread or other threads that I have spoken about the earth being round or flat… The only thing I have ever said about that is my monicker is “Flat earth Flat water” I have neither implied one or the other and neither have I spoke to it on any occasion no matter how I was badgered by you so having said that let’s move on.!
commented 2018-03-21 01:12:07 -0400
liza rosie,

Pot is easier to get than alcohol for kids today. Illegal or legal – it won’t make a difference when it comes to access.
commented 2018-03-21 01:08:33 -0400
Bob Rock, your moniker is about the same as ‘Stupid As A Stick’. You should screw off now or are you really that bored.