September 26, 2016

Do revelations about Monsef’s birth point to intelligence failure?

Brian LilleyArchive

Mariam Monsef was born in Iran, not in Afghanistan. She was born in 1984, not 1985. These are things we have learned about the Minister of Democratic Reform in the last week, things that you would think we should have known before.

Beyond Monsef’s personal story, (I’ll let others deal with that) these revelations raise questions about the vetting done on cabinet ministers.

These revelations show either a spectacular failure of our security agencies or a spectacular failure by Justin Trudeau and his team.

This never should have happened if the security agencies were doing their jobs, but then again, maybe they did their job and Trudeau and team ignored it.

Knowing the answer does matter from a security point of view.

Cabinet ministers have what essentially amounts to a top secret clearance meaning they deal with some of the most sensitive information that governments hold.

Any of this can be discussed around the cabinet table and that is why cabinet ministers are put through a vetting process that includes security checks, tax and financial checks and more.

Do we want people that can be bribed due to crushing debt around the cabinet table? No, that is why financial checks are done. Do we want people around the cabinet table that have questionable ties to Canada’s enemies? No, that is why we do security checks.

I’m not suggesting that Minister Monsef has any of these but my question is, if we can’t have a security vetting that picks up that a candidate’s birthplace and birth date are wrong, how could we possibly pick up on a real problem?

If CSIS and the RCMP and other security agencies that were consulted missed this, then can we really expect them to find that a potential candidate is hiding ties to a foreign government for example, and are selling information or secrets?

This should be worrisome to everyone if that is what happened.

Why did it a take a reporter doing a profile for a newspaper to uncover this, especially since it was apparently talked about in the Peterborough area.

When military members are checked for a security clearance, investigators speak to people that have known them for years, they claw through their past, sometimes they visit references in person.

Did none of this happen with Monsef?

If this is a security failure then there is something worrisome there.

But the other possibility is that our national security agencies did pick these things up and flagged them to team Trudeau who then ignored the information because it would look bad and would chip away at Monsef’s story line that helped get her elected.

I’d love to know the truth.

Trudeau’s office claims they didn’t know until they were approached by the Globe and Mail. If we take them at their word, then this is only an intelligence failure but I’ve been around politicians long enough to be sceptical.

We may not be able to find out.

This is not the first problem with cabinet vetting. When Hunter Tootoo was caught dating a young staffer and her mother, he did what many celebrities do; claimed addiction and headed for rehab.

He says the alcoholism wasn’t picked up in the cabinet vetting. We submitted an Access to Information and Privacy request for his cabinet vetting documents and received blank pages that tell us nothing about whether this is true.

It’s likely we’ll receive the same on Monsef’s documents.

The Trudeau government promised to be open and transparent, they should come clean.

Did they know about Tootoo and ignore the warnings? Did they know about Monsef and ignore that too so they could focus on building up her narrative, one even lauded from the floor of the House of Commons by President Barack Obama?

Team Trudeau has to tell us the truth and I’d be willing to bet the security agencies warned them about both of these cases.

But if that is not the case then maybe it’s time to review the capabilities of the people charged with keeping us safe.

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commented 2016-09-27 22:34:17 -0400
Bev’s orange juice story ran for weeks and cost her her job

This story is dead

The media have proven they conspire with the LIEberals
commented 2016-09-27 19:43:08 -0400
sunny ways
commented 2016-09-27 19:00:04 -0400
It will be very “telling” how this all ends… If she gets away with it a dangerous precedent will have been set, and if the Canadian populace lets The Boy Blunder/Gerald Buttskie get away with it, then we only have ourselves to blame for what happens down the road…
commented 2016-09-27 15:23:02 -0400
Monsef is the equivalent of Huma Abedin= Muslim Brotherhood.
commented 2016-09-27 14:29:50 -0400
This should scare the hell out of everyone. There is simply NO way that these migrants can be vetted. Either Monsef steps down or she should be let go. But we all know the liberals are all corrupt. So that def won’t happen.
commented 2016-09-27 14:06:41 -0400
“intelligence failure”
Not just failure, but evidence of Liberal cronyism within all levels of bureaucracy.
commented 2016-09-27 12:45:28 -0400
KEN HANSON said, ‘At what point does the canadian public storming parliament en-mass and ejecting the government become a reality?’
Hopefully very, very soon.
commented 2016-09-27 03:59:09 -0400
Do revelations about Monsef’s birth point to intelligence failure?

In more ways than one…..
commented 2016-09-27 01:11:43 -0400
jay, you deceiving schemer, she is not being “punished for her heritage”. No context for that at all. She is not being punished at all apparently. But she should be punished for lying.

And you have a problem with Geert Wilders. You truly are a jackass.
commented 2016-09-27 00:23:54 -0400
Jay Kelly – these two “excellent choices” have both incured dishonor on their post and made scandals for their caucus within less than 10 months in power.

Your judgement of character is as perverse as your dialectic.
commented 2016-09-26 23:50:44 -0400
While defending the right of people to stay in Canada after they’ve committed an act of terror (a Canadian is a Canadian is a Canadian), didn’t Trudeau state that one reason he would consider deporting someone would be if they lied to get into the country?
commented 2016-09-26 23:32:51 -0400
Mariam Monsef and Hunter Tootoo were both excellent choices for cabinet. Part of a cabinet, we notice, that was intended to represent Parliament and the Canadian people. Under Harper and previous regimes the cabinet was an exclusive group of men intended to represent the rich and powerful, who had a way to control us because they were not us.

I hope Tootoo is able to return to cabinet soon. Monsef has nothing to be embarrassed about. After all she went through as a young girl she should not be punished for her heritage.

The people of Peterborough are like most Canadians. Not only welcoming and tolerant, but hoping for better things.
commented 2016-09-26 23:22:32 -0400
I agree with others here that Monsef should resign. If it was her Mother who ‘lied’ about the realities of her birthplace, then she is as responsible as her daughter.
I was instrumental in obtaining the first diplomatic passport for a ‘female’ diplomat who had a child with a hyphenated name (over 35 years ago). The degree of details and the numerous meetings to present the argument why a child of a diplomat should be issued a diplomatic passport (primarily because the diplomat was a female) took months to complete.
Why wouldn’t there be the same type of scrutiny involved in this to be appointed member of Parliament?
commented 2016-09-26 20:52:28 -0400
If we prosecuted every duplicitous Liberal who run deceptions or misrepresent who they are, we’d have no government left ….wait a minute…
commented 2016-09-26 19:52:57 -0400
A security failure or political deceit? Or perhaps both. Since our betters don’t value our sovereignty anymore there is probably little oversight or motivation on the part of the security system to be especially vigilant. If the government doesn’t care why should they? Aaron Driver was nailed on a tip from the FBI. Our cops were clueless without them. Down the tube we go.
commented 2016-09-26 19:46:57 -0400
So sick of being “hoodwinked”.
commented 2016-09-26 19:42:03 -0400
Yeah Ken, Canada’s version of Bastille day. Let the criminals out. Or, rather, force them out.
commented 2016-09-26 19:37:37 -0400
As I have written numerous times, members of government, from employees such as a dog catch al the way up to PM must not hold a second citizenship, They must only be Canadian. No dual citizenship. This would apply to Monsef, Dion, and Mulcair equally.

Her mother brought her here at age 11. Her mother lied on the forms. She and her mother became citizens under false pretences,

Its a very far stretch for us to be expected to believe that she never knew she was Syrian born. I don’t buy it. She is 30. Or maybe 31 depending upon which story you believe. Surely this information came up much, much earlier in her life.

At the minimum, she should resign from cabinet and resign her seat. Then she should face an extradition judge or at the least an immigration tribunal to see if she should stay, If she leaves, that should be no problem for her. She was about to leave Canada to move back to Afghanistan when PM Baby Doc Duvalier, ah, Baby Doc Trudeau called on her to run.

Now, does or PM support Canadians who are Canadians and didn’t lie to become Canadians, or does Baby Doc just play fast and loose with immigration rules. He already wants new arrivals to have the right to vote to make them feel more at home. Us feeling secure or offended means nothing to this piece of work. After all, all he is interested in is having a seat at the UN Security Council.
commented 2016-09-26 19:01:03 -0400
So she is a liar or a fool at best and lucky us she will be deciding how we vote. At what point does the canadian public storming parliament en-mass and ejecting the government become a reality?
commented 2016-09-26 18:53:18 -0400
On the other hand, she is a nice looking brunette with that now proven ‘je ne sais qua’. Baby Doc must be totally uncomfortable in his jeans since Princess Sophia is getting on.
commented 2016-09-26 18:31:56 -0400
I wonder if she smiles like that when she is slowly cutting the throat of a helpless goat ?
commented 2016-09-26 18:27:52 -0400
Does anyone know who is responsible for policing our politicians in Canada? I googled it and never nailed down an answer.
commented 2016-09-26 18:27:46 -0400
Egil Lomeland commented “Just makes us look like a bunch of amateurs.” Perhaps in so many ways that’s exactly what we are becoming — in politics, journalism, international relations, public education, national defense — and we used to be one of the best in all of those topics, and more.
commented 2016-09-26 18:18:39 -0400
We will never know the truth.

Our intel folks are actually quite good – however high level interference is likely to have happened.

In the end we have been hoodwinked and the LIEberals are not happy this was made public.

Anyone pursuing this will be labeled a racist by the media and the LIEberals.
commented 2016-09-26 18:12:55 -0400
Liza….I agree with you & Monsef should be made to resign. How can you lie like her mother did on the application & get away with that, none of us would.
commented 2016-09-26 17:57:41 -0400
How are they vetting the refugees?
commented 2016-09-26 17:46:50 -0400
Also, using the word, intelligence, in the same sentence as Baby Doc is an oxymoron.
commented 2016-09-26 17:39:44 -0400
Maybe Monsef based her background on her Twitter account. You know, like how she figured Twitter and Facebook hits trump a referendum for election reform.

If the majority of Twitter hits preferred she was from Afghistan and not the factual Iran; and Facebook hits preferred her to be born in 1985 and not the factual 1985: then what else could she do but lie? After all, she does belong to the LPC, Lying Party of Canada, aka the Liberal Party of Corruption.
commented 2016-09-26 17:23:37 -0400
What it says Brian, is; “we are gated community Globalists and we don’t give a damn about Canada or its security because we have contempt for most Canadians and even when our social experiments explode on the streets, it won’t effect us because we have armed security 24/7”