February 01, 2018

Do you stand against “feminist” Liberal government’s gender neutral anthem?

David MenziesMission Specialist

The Liberal government has just changed the lyrics to our anthem, O Canada, to make it gender neutral.

You may recall this all began when late Liberal MP Mauril Belanger, took umbrage to some of the lyrics, specifically, the inherent sexism of “all thy sons’ command.”

And of course, our feminist Prime Minister agreed, because it’s 2018.

Changing “in all thy sons command” to “in all of us command” is simply virtue signalling by the progressives in this country, and you just know it won’t stop at a gender neutral anthem.

The cultural revisions are just beginning.

So here’s what we can do. Go to Save O Canada and pledge to sing the anthem how it was originally written, and to call on politicians, especially the Conservatives, to do the same.

I bet most Canadians don’t want to tamper with our anthem. So we’re going to commission a simple poll – “Do you support the Trudeau government changing the lyrics to O Canada to make it gender neutral?”

The cost to commission an independent pollster is about $2,500 – the results will be statistically valid, and we’ll update you when we receive the results.

Go to Save O Canada to pitch in if you want to prove that changing the lyrics of our anthem in the name of political correctness is unwanted and unCanadian, and sign the petition to repeal this virtue-signalling law.

Today, it was “all thy sons command” that got tossed into the shredder of political correctness in order to make way for “in all of us command”. What will it be tomorrow?

Go to Save O Canada to take a stand FOR our anthem!

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commented 2018-02-03 10:56:46 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt,

Making excuses I see.

We can do it through Skype. People online arrange debates all the time. They are all over YouTube.

I think the real reason why you won’t do it is because you are useless in a one on one debate. You need to be surrounded by your fellow Rebel fans, who will agree with you and attack any opposing view no matter how factual it is. Strength in numbers so to speak, but one on one with a bipartisan source to fact check the debate – you know you would be decimated.

So Skype debate or can I mock you from now on about being afraid to have a real debate?
commented 2018-02-03 09:47:16 -0500
Meet with you?!! No thanks, I have a policy, I don’t meet up with online nutjobs!
What a strange thing to propose in the first place, my guess is you are dealing with delusions of grandeur. Good luck with that.
commented 2018-02-03 01:20:00 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt,

It is exactly what I have been doing. Nothing you say will change that.

But how about this – I challenge you to a debate to discuss any issues. We can arrange a location, day and time that works for you. In addition, we can arrange for the debate to be fact checked in real time by a non-partisan person that we both accept prior to the debate.

I would really like to have this debate with you to finally decide who really has their head up their ass.

Do you accept?
commented 2018-02-02 23:58:28 -0500
Oh excuse me Jack, you went back to James again, last name Crock of Shit!
commented 2018-02-02 23:56:34 -0500
Oh Jack, keep telling yourself that’s what you are doing…your posts are little rants, small ideas developed in a small brain, which is encased by an abnormally thick skull, which sits atop a chicken neck!
Go and find a dictionary to look up what projection means; chances are you will find your picture below the definition.

You forgot to tell me to move to Texas…man you are slipping!
commented 2018-02-02 23:05:52 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt,

Good to know that you support my free speech right since you are anti-fact, ant-logic, anti-science and anti-Canadian.

I am glad that you support the debunking, fact checking, calling out your lies and mocking that I do, even when you ignore it, deflect it, provide a link that further puts you in a hole of idiocy or completely ignore it, because it goes against what you have been spoon fed in your bubble.

You are far too easy to make fun of.
commented 2018-02-02 20:09:00 -0500
Dan, My vote is for the third link!
I will look for a good ESADB video, hope I find one! Will post a link if I am successful.
commented 2018-02-02 19:33:49 -0500
I tried it…it left me feeling unsatisfied and soiled… Jimmy Crockoshyte;

Piss off.
I couldn’t find any good ‘Eat Shit And Die Bitch’ videos…

Flagging comments or blocking them does not sit well with me either.
I feel compelled to read everything – and that’s all I have to do, or not do, is don’t read the nasty little trolls…and they won’t bother me…apparently.
But they also take up so much space (with all the troll feeders) with all their troll BS…as well as the other points you address.
…so I guess really the best thing to do is the same thing my mother said to do way back when…ignore them and they’ll go away.
They want a reaction – any reaction – positive or negative. Whether for money (paid troll) or some messed up psychological need, or they are just the evil spawn of Satan…
I guess it’s like a host body getting parasites, hard to get rid of and detrimental to the host’s health. But the cure can be more harmful to the host than the dirty stinkin’, bloodsuckin’ parasites!
I think a public discussion on The Paradox of Free Speech and the Nasty Troll is in order. It may open up a way to deal with all the nasty lefties out there…
commented 2018-02-02 17:15:20 -0500
Go back and read my post to Dan, pretty clear.

I don’t have to like your speech, which I don’t….you have the right to say it. I have the right to disagree & dismiss it; and I have the right to ridicule it if I wish…. Engaging authoritarian leftists such as yourself in a debate in pretty useless. Your history on this site makes it so. Your raison d’etre is to derail threads, deride posters, and deflect & obfuscate. This is the nature of the troll, this is the purpose you serve.
People are free to walk away from interactions on-line whenever they choose, just like in face to face interactions and telephone calls.

So, after saying all that, Piss off James!
commented 2018-02-02 16:56:08 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt,

Tell me again how free speech is so important?
commented 2018-02-02 16:43:51 -0500
I bet you have room up there for Andrew!
commented 2018-02-02 16:36:08 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt,

That’s funny coming from one of the biggest whiners here, who is constantly offended.
commented 2018-02-02 15:47:53 -0500
It’s so funny that conservatives here cry about the importance free speech, meanwhile they want the liberals here to be silenced.

The fact of the matter is that conservatives still want to be able to spew their ignorant, racist, bigoted, homophobic and archaic views in Canada, but couldn’t care less about fighting the same fight for opposing free speech.
commented 2018-02-02 15:41:17 -0500
Mark Goddard,

I am not wrong at all.

That’s why gay marriage is legal and pot will be legal and eventually prostitution will be legalized and regulated – every new generation moves more to the left than the previous generation. They realize that past generations were on the wrong side of history on many social issues.
commented 2018-02-02 15:35:48 -0500
Drew Wakariuk,

I have lived free all my life. Canada is a wonderful country…if you are a true Canadian as opposed to being a Texan so to speak in Canada.
commented 2018-02-02 15:12:23 -0500
We are probably going to lose our right to free speech soon,at least legislatively and we have no guaranteed right to free speech entrenched in our Constitution or Charter of Rights that a socialist Court would enforce.
We have Jihadists who are given the protection of Sharia Law above Canadian Criminal Code Law. Allowing ISIS terrorists to walk around the streets ignoring the fact that they have committed heinous crimes is beyond dispicable and evidence that Islamic philosophy has poisoned our justice system.
I didn’t think that the “sons” reference was sexist but whatever these idiots in Ottawa are doing to destroy our culture and country,the Anthem doesn’t stand for what it used to stand for. Sad but true.
commented 2018-02-02 15:11:46 -0500
Janie Jones, I don’t like the maple leaf at all. I curse the day Pierre changed it. It represents the multicultural trick he played on Canada to do his part to usher in the global agenda/one world order. He was doing his bit, setting the stage. It is the flag we have however and I fly it, but I fly it along side the Canadian Red Ensign and my provincial flag. In fact my Maple leaf is flying upside down. The sign of a country in distress.
commented 2018-02-02 13:10:56 -0500
Andrew, Piss Off!
commented 2018-02-02 13:04:45 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 2018-02-02 12:41:52 -0500
I’m taking my own advice to Dan Mancuso.

Andrew, Piss Off!
About as sophisticated a defence of right wing opinions as I might expect.

Have a nice day, Tammie, :)
commented 2018-02-02 12:41:52 -0500
I’m taking my own advice to Dan Mancuso.

Andrew, Piss Off!
commented 2018-02-02 12:22:55 -0500
Tammie Putinski-Zandbelt commented 2018-02-02 11:49:59 0500
The poll question last night asked viewers in the Ottawa region, “The Gender Neutral Anthem, Hit the Right Note or Is out of Tune. 5477 responded to the poll.
Hits the right note: 1086 (20%)
Is out of tune: 4391 (80%)
https://www.ctvnews.ca/more/poll-results">https://www.ctvnews.ca/more/poll-results "

Ah, so it’s a website poll, which are notoriously unreliable for a couple reasons.

Selection criteria:
Mainstreet poll: Random*
CTV: Self-selected.

Mainstreet: Representative of Canadians*.
CTV: Unknown. CTV website users, presumably.
  • - Actual polls are not totally demographically random, but they know the inherent biases such as Millennial undersampling of phone polls and adjust to be comparable to the country as a whole.

Who self-selects? The same people writing angry letters to the editor about some issue or another- the ax grinders. Among a randomly selected pool of Canadians, the majority support the changes. Among CTV readers who are interested nough to respond to a web poll, most don’t (shocking, I know!). The amount of potential selection bias is enormous.

Anyway, if you have some reason why you think a web poll is more accurate than an actual official one, I’d like to hear your rationale…
commented 2018-02-02 12:18:40 -0500
Dan Mancuso, perhaps a solution lies in telling them to Piss Off each and every time. Ignore their links, their Marxist leanings, their deflections etc…
Piss off over and over….
This can be done with words, Memes, Gifs, music lyrics etc…. If a large number of people decide to go this route, the trolls may decide to go elsewhere to post.

Free speech is too important, and, I don’t agree with banning them, unless they post threats, or extremely offensive language etc….flag the comments and allow the moderator to decide what to do about them.
commented 2018-02-02 12:11:07 -0500
Tomorrow it will be eventually changed to : transgendered Islamic commands
commented 2018-02-02 11:49:59 -0500
The poll question last night asked viewers in the Ottawa region, “The Gender Neutral Anthem, Hit the Right Note or Is out of Tune. 5477 responded to the poll.
Hits the right note: 1086 (20%)
Is out of tune: 4391 (80%)
commented 2018-02-02 10:35:31 -0500
I think everyone here on THEREBEL is a proponent of free speech – except of course for the lyin’-lefty trolls and other degenerate scum – and we are also all mature and intelligent enough to realize and accept there will always be subhuman, intellectually challenged, morally bankrupt, instigators and shit-disturbers, plaguing and pestering us with their infantile churlishness – free speech is a bitch.
Is there not a point though, where their studied offensiveness and evil intent should be shut down as a form of protection from them? I mean how much of this evil, obfuscating nonsense are we expected to put up with from these bent morons!? It’s not like any of them offer any kind of valid argument…they’re all lefty retards and Communists.
Or will we have to wait for Jihadi Justin’s planned anarchy before we can go after the stinkin’ trolls and other traitorous, deviant enemies of Canada…and take them OUT!
Seriously, I think we need to discuss/debate this nasty troll problem and then move forward from the status quo – which forces us to endure these reprobates and their ugly, evil BS, by us having enough moral integrity to play by the rules.
Well the rules we play by are f**king us over! We need to DO something about that and them!
commented 2018-02-02 10:29:53 -0500
“liza rosie commented 2018-02-02 02:46:18 -0500
Andrew, Postmodernists can’t leave anything alone. It means transformation of the game rules.

They don’t get to. "

What game rule has been changed by replacing the third version of the anthem with the fourth, precisely two words different?

Who are “they”? Here’s a poll that says 62% support the change (https://www.mainstreetresearch.ca/national-anthem-poll/ ). By the way, Mainstreet is a somewhat conservative-skewed pollster – they were predicting a CPC win in 2015 as late as two weeks before the election. Majority rule? I mean, I’m not exactly hearing a lot of objectively defined reasons to leave it as is.

Honestly, “postmodernist” sounds like a buzzword to make curmudgeonly griping sound official. Old man yells at cloud, &c.

“Roy Jeanine commented 2018-02-02 02:29:04 -0500
In all thy us command is not even proper english. I read two polls today that stated 97.4% of people said they would never change “in all thy sons command”. These God forsaken liberals won’t change the way we sing our national anthem, no damn way. "

Which polls are those? I’d like to see the links, please. The polling I’ve seen indicates rather the opposite – I’ve linked one a paragraph or two above saying only 19% opposed.

“Drew Wakariuk commented 2018-02-02 02:28:14 -0500
James are you speaking of the bunch of pussified wimps walking around right now? They are cucked and never get any women because women prefer REAL MEN!”

Do you even know what cuckolding is? You can’t be a “cuck” if you never get a woman. Another vague right wing insult that doesn’t seem to mean anything.

What’s a “real man”? As I recall, women prefer men of comparable or better educational and economic class than they, which is becoming a real problem now since women overall are better educated and higher economic standing than men, particularly among the under-40s.. there’s a shortage of male intellectuals for them to settle down with.