October 02, 2017

Drug testing welfare recipients: “Over educated elites” oppose this “common sense” idea

Tanveer AhmedRebel Commentator

The conservative Australian government is planning a new trial program, to test welfare recipients for drug use. I work in one of the areas where this pilot program is being launched.

Positive tests will influence their payments, and recipients will be asked to engage in treatment.

This has been met with howls of criticism from medical groups and the Left, but to what extent is addiction entirely a medical problem?

There is also huge community support for this idea, illustrating another issue that appears to pit overeducated elites with a common sense mainstream.

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commented 2017-10-04 12:28:18 -0400
TAMMIE PUTINSKI-ZANDBELT commented 17 hours ago
Dan, there is an old saying, “there’s no such thing as a free lunch”.
Maybe the thing to do is require general welfare recipients to complete a required number of volunteer hours before the cheque will be released. If there is a refusal to comply, cancel the benefits.

You’re right about the ‘free lunch’ – someone has to pay for it down the road.
I am not going to sit here and defend welfare! Being a free market capitalist I’m against a welfare state!
But! I am also a Christian…and poverty is being criminalized!
Poverty is also being used by the left to destabilize the system – ala Cloward/Piven strategy. Divide and conquer!
If you are an honest poor person you will get screwed by the system, if you are a practiced liar it’s easy to game the system – that’s how the left rolls.
Like I said, the poor – addicts or not – are an easy target…

“There but for the grace of God, go I.”
commented 2017-10-04 04:23:35 -0400
Many addicts on welfare are also able to pass off as being disabled, which gives them more payment. You may be able to strip an addict of welfare, but not so easy with the cripples.
commented 2017-10-03 19:30:13 -0400
Dan, there is an old saying, “there’s no such thing as a free lunch”.
Maybe the thing to do is require general welfare recipients to complete a required number of volunteer hours before the cheque will be released. If there is a refusal to comply, cancel the benefits.
commented 2017-10-03 14:09:50 -0400
FLAT EARTH commented 2 hours ago
They don’t have to jab you with a needle Dan… You can piss in a bottle…

That is not the point (pun intended), it’s the principle of it!
It’s my body, my right…once you start giving that away…you’re done!
If you’re going to have a welfare state in a crony capitalist, or fascist political system forced on us – like we now have – rather than a free market capitalist system, then at the least it should be properly policed, and funded!
As for politicians…forget drug/drunk testing, we need to bring back capital punishment for treason…and use it!
Sure, we’d all like to sit in judgement of politicians and give them the thumbs up or the thumbs down…but how would you like to have the job of who gets to decide who’s worthy of collecting welfare and who isn’t…you just think about that.
commented 2017-10-03 12:19:12 -0400
They don’t have to jab you with a needle Dan… You can piss in a bottle.. And really when you think about it it’s not a bad idea for career politicians or career welfare recipients to have to piss in a bottle every now and then… I am not speaking to the disabled people who really need welfare or some kind of financial support but I’m speaking to the mothers who have a child of a different race and a different father every 5 years to stay in the system.
commented 2017-10-03 11:55:47 -0400
Being an addict on welfare – sheesh, could life get much worse?
Taxpayers buying drugs from a drug dealer for welfare recipient addicts – not good.
But I feel someone should at least mention the other side – I guess the ‘welfare recipient’ addicts and non addicts have no say in this – because they are an easy and vulnerable target – both the ones who shouldn’t be on welfare and those that unfortunately need to be…and who gets to decide?
I don’t care if I’m a welfare recipient or a heavy equipment operator – no one is going to be jabbing me with a needle and taking my blood for any reason!
It’s my body, my blood and I have certain unalienable rights to it! A nasty precedent is set with that first needle jab – and you all know about the left and setting precedents!

And what about all the impaired people – welfare recipients or heavy equipment operators – who are all on doctor-prescribed, chemical poison pharmaceuticals, and totally spaced out on them!? Why do they never get mentioned when addictive behavior and/or cures are being ‘discussed’?

It’s about principles…
commented 2017-10-03 10:14:11 -0400
Lieberal elites have no common sense, never have, never will.

Drug testing should have happened many years ago.
commented 2017-10-02 22:35:05 -0400
Well… The biggest welfare recipients in the world should also submit to random drug testing. The parasitic nature politicians should be regularly challenged by D & A testing to ensure that they are not impaired while at work or under the influence of any kind of illegal drug well making decisions that affect the nation .
commented 2017-10-02 18:17:05 -0400
Great video except for the part that referenced stages of changes. People that work in addictions need to stop worshipping stages of changes, as it is meaningless over analysis drivel.
commented 2017-10-02 17:46:13 -0400
The power elites want a drugged electorate, it makes carrying out their agendas so much easier.
commented 2017-10-02 17:43:48 -0400
Great report Tanveer Ahmed.
The traditional medical model keeps recidivism rates for treatment quite high. I look forward to seeing the results of this pilot project. I suspect the drug users will migrate to another area where welfare recipients are not drug tested. Perhaps the geographical area needs an expansion.