October 06, 2017

Energy East: Alberta’s “disappointed” Liberal MPs side with party over constituents

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show

 

TransCanada is cancelling the Energy East pipeline. Alberta Liberal MPs say they are "disappointed," but I don't believe them.

We just lost a $15.7 billion project. It's a devastating blow to the Canadian economy.

And if these liberal MPS actually cared about Alberta they would be outraged, mad at their own party, right?

Wrong.

Let's go through them one by one: Darshan Kang, Amarjeet Sohi, Kent Hehr and Randy Boissonneault.

They all say they’re so “disappointed” — but these MPs never once broke ranks with the Liberal Party to stick up for Alberta, where 204,000 people are suffering chronic unemployment.

They sided with their anti-oil and anti-Alberta boss against the very people who sent them to Ottawa.

 

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commented 2017-10-11 02:50:44 -0400
Why not…?? Because I am not in charge of pipe lines.! If I was boss of the country things would be different .!!
commented 2017-10-09 10:53:20 -0400
Flat Earth—-Why not build a pipeline through the US to Seattle now? (If Kinder-Morgan is shut down)
commented 2017-10-09 09:54:57 -0400
Fuckem in bc.. we don’t have to go through bc with our product we can go around it. because we don’t get their ports for free we can use any deep water port that we like and personally I like Seattle… And if they froze in the dark for a little while perhaps common sense would shift them back to a state of conscious understanding..
commented 2017-10-08 23:04:35 -0400
Flat Earth—Your new name is one of the best, and easier for me to type. I’m like most of you, tired of being used by the Feds. There would be nothing better than 4 Provinces selling our many resources together. All I am saying is the people in Burnaby and Vancouver won’t go for it . Their various levels of Government have convinced them that there is a replacement for not only Oil, but Natural Gas. Premier Horgan-Weaver, Greger Robinson and likely Trudeau don’t want Oil going through BC.
To change their minds, you must get aggressive by cutting them off oil and blocking their products from going East. (which is the whole Continent for BC.)
Remember who you are dealing with as there is no Conservative Party in BC.
commented 2017-10-08 22:34:48 -0400
William Elder—Your e-mail must have been in the air when I started typing my last post.
I also studied Prairie separation for a long time, mostly trying to see how BC would react. I realize you would rather negotiate rather than leave. The trouble is the new people running Burnaby and Vancouver are only takers , not negotiators. Leviticus 2013 and I communicated on this subject and he agreed with you that negotiations with BC would be better than forcing them into something.
Before you can negotiate with a Province that thinks they hold all the cards, you have to show them the damage that you could do to them, as my last post suggested. The day Alberta-Sask leave, BC is forced out of Confederation. Not even the most Loyal Canadian living in BC is going to say, "I love Canada, our Border is only 1700 km away near Brandon Manitoba. "

William, If you need help should the Americans invade, I have a high power Chinese pellet rifle which may scare those Yankee Imperialists.
commented 2017-10-08 22:09:18 -0400
Ron Joseph… You sound exactly like my MP who is terrified at the prospect of Alberta and Saskatchewan separating from the rest of this malignant and cancer ridden entity called Canada..bI don’t know if you have looked around or not but Alberta and Saskatchewan never have had a port, so we will use the one right next-door in a place called British Columbia. I’m sure you have heard of it it’s been on the map for a while..
As it stands right now we do not get access to Vancouvers tidewater for free so nothing will change in the future other than our independence… And if BC wants to get stupid and raise rates our neighbours to the south would be more than glad to give us access to their tidewater for reasonable market value. Or develop Churchill and bring Manitoba into the fold.
There is only two kinds of people who are afraid of separation… One of those are our professional career politicians who think they will lose their place at the trough of freebies and entitlement and may have to get a real job and the other group of people are the ones who the politicians have convinced that separation is a bad idea for various reasons so they can keep their place at the trough of of freebies and entitlement..
Maybe for the timid we could have a trial separation… you know… Just like a bad marriage. LOL
commented 2017-10-08 20:49:14 -0400
Alberta-Sask—-WARNING, you would only last 6 months after you separate. Although you have valuable goods to sell, Oil, Wheat, Potash and maybe Alberta beef; they need to go OVERSEAS, so you need a port.
If your new Leader were smart, he would BLOCK all BC goods going East, by putting a large tariff on everything going on your Railways and Highways. BC,s busy harbor area would turn into a Ghost Town, with only a few rusted old freighters taking low value logs to China.
BC would be forced to let all your goods go through.
Another problem which no one is preparing for is the US won’t need your oil by the time this happens. You are only getting 70% of its value right now; that will not go up until you have other options to sell your goods.
Alberta-Sask should do some research on a pipeline and updated rail lines to the Port in Churchill.
commented 2017-10-08 20:26:49 -0400
Well I won’t be turning my guns in any time soon and I will continue to keep my skills up on range and field shooting – because you never know when you might have to shoot a Yankee on a “manfest destiny”.

If their failure to win a war with jungle commies and desert goat herders is their track record, Caadians can thin their numbers out well enough if the try to border hop with imperial intent – one set of degenerate royals is enough, we don’t need another set of imperioys posers.

Ron Joseph – I have been involved with the western independence movement since we elected Gordie Kestler to Edmonton. – After years of trying I abandoned the idea because the economic infrastructure for consolidating a populist separation is just not there. Don’t beat a dead horse. There are better ways for Alberta and the west to gain political power – primary is to be economically self sufficient and in a western confederal block political/economic agreement between the western provinces.
commented 2017-10-08 18:26:18 -0400
Me NotYou

“Sodomites” – nice one. Please set your clock forward 2100 years. Per your advice to Mike Krchnak, if you happen to feel that Islam hates you, for example, why aren’t you then following your own advice and carrying out a war on Islam, as you would exhort us to do against the “Progressivist-Sodomites”?

But I digress. Thanks for playing. Your poorly contemplated theoretical stereotyping of an entire nation, all the people in it, and binary “If it is not black it is white / if you’re not for me you’re against me” mindset on everything from political views to options open to the West should we secede is likely far more cogent an argument for us going it on our own that anything I could have put down.

For the record — I’m for greater gun access, out of the two I would have voted Trump (don’t really give a rat’s rectum either way, it’s not anything I had to actually make a call on) and I have never voted Liberal / Left in my life. Oh, and there’s a fairly decent chance I’m a better shot than you, even if I can’t carry. Hate to go against type, but there you have it.

Have a nice day.
commented 2017-10-08 13:13:31 -0400
If Alberta could manage to trigger a close referendum to secede, Ottawa would fear losing the goose that laid the golden egg and begin to capitulate to our needs. This is proven by history when you look at the Quebec referendum of the ’90’s… that close referenderum vote placed Ottawa’s balls squarely in the hands of the Bloc Quebecois. Ottawa won’t budge on anything until they have to. Albert’s 29 seats agains Ottawa’s 131 seats is just bringing a knife to a gunfight. A seperation party is forming – WIPA – that could, given time trigger a referendum, and at least scare Ottawa into capitulating. Even if Alberta doesn’t seperate in a referendum, at least we would have some teeth! WIPA needs signatures! Download the form here:

http://alberta.independence-movement.org/wipa-party-platform/

Sign it and get friends to sign it. We can do this Alberta! Let’s get some teeth! We all got a dog in this fight, Ottawa won’t take Jason Kenney or anyone else seriously until they are motivated by fear. Why would they? 29 seats agaisnt 131? Yeah right!
commented 2017-10-08 10:24:25 -0400
Nasty Post headline today “Surprise, surprise the government sabotages yet another energy project”. Just sayin.
commented 2017-10-08 10:06:19 -0400
- They represent their gold plated pensions not the people of Alberta.
commented 2017-10-08 09:34:29 -0400
MIKE KRCHNAK

Canadians will listen and Canadians will accept everything their governments tell them. They will do so, and grumble about it, and let all the bad happen.

Why? Because there is not one single Canadian who knows anything about how so much is connected to upholding their personal responsibilities. Canadians have, like Scandanavians, delegated everything to government. And if the government doesn’t deliver, it’s because the government doesn’t have enough power or resources to act effectively. Only a fool would believe that there’s any truth in that.

If you truly believe that Canada is heading for the shit swirl, then there are two things you can do …

Don’t trust CINOs because they are no different than Progressivist-Sodomites.

And be ready to rebel – either walk out on Canada or make war with the Progressivist-Sodomites that you MUST hate. You MUST hate them because they hate you.

Canada is extremely weak and very close to oblivion. This is a good thing and must be promoted at every opportunity. JT will go on and say everything is alright because “Diversity is our strength” and “I am a feminist” and that will make all the bad people go away. You can be confident that he is, either, determined (to see) or ignorant (of) the collapse to come. Once the collapse comes, Canada will be picked over by the US and all the good parts seized.

Alberta, Saskatchewan and a few other places will benefit they will, at last, get a better deal. Ottawa not going to give up on the current arrangement, because it pays them too well. And Alberta doesn’t complain about it.
commented 2017-10-08 02:10:25 -0400
Me not you……Shut the fuck up! Any one posting under a fake name is a coward in my opinion, even if packing. You lumping all Canadians as you have says a lot about your ignorance. Thinking that all Canadians listen to what the government tells us carte Blanche tells me you have a comprehension issue if you have read a mojority of the posts to this site. Grow up, your rhetoric sounds rather juvenile at best.
I don’t speak for all Canadians, but there are many like minded folks that would agree that we are headed for a shit swirl if things don’t change drastically and fast.
commented 2017-10-08 01:16:17 -0400
With proper statesmen at the helm Alberta and Saskatchewan would have absolutely no problem making it on our own… Don’t confuse the issue that you might miss us so badly and starve to death and have to get a real job without your transfer payments.!!
commented 2017-10-08 01:10:56 -0400
William Elder—-Better a poor Canadian than cannon-fodder for Globalist Imperialism.
We would be leaving Canada to get away from Globalism, with Islam at its center.
With Politicians like Trudeau, Scheer,Wynne, Brown, Notley and now Horgan, it is time to make a change. Alberta and Sask. couldn’t make it on their own, so they need either the US or BC.
commented 2017-10-07 21:49:38 -0400
JIM WEBB

Yeah, it’s likely my neighbor down the street from me does own an AR 15, but I don’t care. He’s a good guy, goes to his church, barbeques, is a member of a softball league, and does hunt when the season is open. Yep, he’s a law-abiding gun owner who will cause no harm to anyone, even if he does own an AR 15. Btw, he doesn’t. His hobby is motorcycles.

What you, as a typical Canadian didn’t understand (because it’s very likely your government told you not to think about it) is that personal success includes personal responsibility; that means being responsible to yourself and your goals first. What this is accomplished, everything else falls into place. Unlike Canadians, who are constantly being screwed by their governments (regardless of their ideological bent) into being told that any success on their part means they have failed another person – usually someone they never met, nor ever will meet. That’s why wealthier Canadians are constantly fleeched because it’s good for those who have less. This is the mindset that has prevailed in Canada and will drive it into being a Third-World cesspool before long.

As for your claim that there are Texans who are like you – a cuck – there probably are. But They are called liberals and they are known vermin and filled with nonsense. But they obsess over Confederate statues and other SJW fantasies. Obviously, they are mentally ill – are you also mentally ill?

Canada’s failure will mean Manifest Destiny is coming. And Alberta should not resist.

Actually, Alberta should get on board and promote it as strongly as possible.

We know that it is only a matter of time before the whole thing called Canada comes flying apart.
commented 2017-10-07 20:06:11 -0400
Me NotYou

Good handle for you, expresses your self-absorbed myopia perfectly. From your response of canned Canadian stereotypes I can safely say I’m glad the collective lack of coherence is from You NotMe.

Your tenuous arguments don’t even make sense – “Personal success… must include… the right and means to defend oneself”? By that logic then, does that mean your neighbour down the street with two AR-15’s in the hall closet, a Desert Eagle in his sock drawer, and a Flakvierling on his roof must be more successful than you, because he has more toys with which to defend himself?

Because Canadians (wow, you know all Canadians, pretty impressive) don’t believe" in “the rights and means to defend oneself” (pretty sure we do, by the way)… Canadians… put their faith in the callow child PM…"? To do what, exactly? How does the Selfie Queen figure in the personal protection / personal success model apparently central to your world? And have you read any of the posts on here? Does it sound like a lot of us have any faith in that twat to do anything, or in his Diversity is Strength bullshit?

You only have yourself to thank for portraying yourself as a stereotype – an allegedly “rich Texan” bragging about his wealth and his right to open carry as a prime reason everyone should be rushing to join the US. No, none of us have heard that before alright.

I know Texans who do NOT share your views, as it happens. Are they walking, talking cucks like us Canadians then?

And why the concern for Canada? You allegedly cut and ran to what you determined to be a better place a dozen years ago. As I said before, congrats on finding your paradise, whatever the truth of the matter may actually be. Why not just sit back and watch the spectacle North of the border, as we are doing with the antics being provided 24/7 South of the border?

If you want to actually make a case for the West joining the US, you’ll have to do way better than say it’s because you can now carry a gun, allegedly have acquired unimaginable wealth, and how anyone commenting on your post is just a “full-retard” Canadian cuck. Somehow that approach probably won’t cut it.
commented 2017-10-07 19:38:49 -0400
Building on RON VOSS’ post about Kent Hehr. Remember that jackass blurting how he would beat his hands bloody until pipelines were built. The only blood I see is ours. Next election the good people of Calgary have to send Ironside to the sideline, the same spot where Nenshi will be in a couple weeks.
commented 2017-10-07 18:22:45 -0400
JIM WEBB

Wow. If you’re the intellectual example of Canadians these days, the whole country has gone full-retard.

Personal success is tied to taking personal responsibility, and that must include having the right and the means to defend oneself. Of course, Canadians don’t believe this, preferring to put their faith in the callow child PM that is leading them into the abyss. Canada is weak – weaker than it ever has been.

Call me a “stereotype”? Guess what the stereotype of a Canadian is? A walking, talking cuck, who’s glad to be fleeced for the good of Diversity.

And where to live in Texas? Not on a floodplain, like all those idiots. There are many fine and prosperous communities surrounding Dallas that offer protection from the inclement weather, whenever it comes around. As the trailer comment, there are some very good ideas in housing that is not only cost-efficient but very, very affordable. Who needs for of a house than they need?

Oh, wait. That person would be Al Gore. But what does he care about values and freedom?
commented 2017-10-07 18:08:05 -0400
Me NotYou

LOL, really? Basing personal success on how secure your sidearm make you feel feeds the tired American stereotype nicely. If true, you’re a walking billboard of why most people would steer clear of wanting to become a part of the US.

As for your vast wealth, for all we know you’re sitting in your wife-beater undies swatting flies away from last week’s unwrapped pizza leftovers and finishing off a warm six pack of Pearl in your Santa Rosa trailer home.

Regardless, glad you’ve found your particular paradise, whatever the truth happens to be. For those of us foreigners capable of greater than a binary thought process we’ll continue to examine the options available.
commented 2017-10-07 13:48:40 -0400
WILLIAM ELDER

And that’s the sort of belief that will get you more of what you deserve.

More poverty.

More Ottawa.

More taxes.

More JT.

Congratulations. Canada’s become the gulag you always hoped for.

Meanwhile, in Texas, life is awesome and I am exceedingly rich, beyond any Canadian’s wildest expectations.

I have the right to open-carry and I have more security holstered to my belt than any Canadian could ever hope for.

Canada is weak, destitute, and nearing collapse. 70% + unemployment will be the norm and food riots will be common. JT will rely on his ANTIFA minions to keep order.
commented 2017-10-07 12:43:04 -0400
me notyou commented – “Quaint notions like “Canada until you die” will only get you one thing: poverty.”

Better a poor Canadian than cannon-fodder for globalist imperialism.
commented 2017-10-07 12:28:41 -0400
That was supposed to read “resource base” not resort base.
commented 2017-10-07 12:19:51 -0400
At least one Liberal bucked Junior on the small business tax changes. It is not much but it is a start.
commented 2017-10-07 04:06:33 -0400
Thank you for that tremendous insight Jim..
It absolutely reflects how Canada was developed with the weak spots exposed leading to other inequalities of power east and west while the largest resort base sits with the fewest people.
commented 2017-10-07 03:32:50 -0400
Right on Flat Earth. Replacing a disinterested federal government 3300 km away in Ottawa with one 3700 km away in DC is not the answer; we’d be an even more insignificant voice in a country 10 times the size of the one we left, and to be honest I’m not even so sure there aren’t industry and governmental players Stateside pulling the levers to help sell the notion that Canadian oil is toxic and shouldn’t be developed, so they can accelerate development of their own resources, edge out Canadian competition, and keep Canadian oil as an informal “reserve” in their back pocket should things generally go sideways on the world stage (not so strange that this seems to be exactly what is happening).

There are no doubt many people who accumulate great personal wealth down south, but that doesn’t detract from the greasy overarching politics behind the sudden pariah status of Canadian oil. The tired concept of Manifest Destiny has never really left the American psyche, if they can’t militarily fulfill the American dream of a United States covering all lands north of the Rio Grande they would no doubt be just as happy to accomplish it economically. Countries may be allied by general outlook and heritage, but countries do not have “friends” over whom they will not seek to gain economic advantage. (Remind me again, just who is it pushing to renegotiate NAFTA?)

Even as a landlocked standalone there’d be more opportunity in a combined Alberta /Saskatchewan “start up” nation for the average person living here than the pinheads in Ottawa are dictating we be allowed to have under their current rules and practices. And should any of Manitoba / Northern Ontario / Central & North Coastal BC decide they want to join us then suddenly we’d have access to tidewater as well, which would be an interesting tidbit to throw into the mix.

William Elder — I hear you buddy, no interest whatsoever in joining the Excited States. My father ran convoys to Murmansk and supplies to Malta in WW2. My better half’s folk were United Empire Loyalists expropriated from their properties and driven out of Flushing NY to Glencoe Ontario in the late 1700’s. Sister in law is Quebec French from the 1600’s. Canadian history and the development of Canada and its institutions are a personal passion. BUT… the Canada the 4 preceding generations of your family helped develop and shape has steadily been chopped away since the late 1960’s by a continual stream of bored GTA / Ottawa / Quebec career political intellectuals more interested in creating policy to maintain their comfortable status quo at the national table, their “entitlements” for simply being alive and being special, or to gain UN merit badges for virtue signalling, than they are in actually BUILDING the country of Canada. (Witness the Selfie Queen and his pronouncements about Canada being the first “post-national state”, or his “basic admiration” for Chinese totalitarianism. How trendy and chic that sounds to those bored elites and the media, for whom concepts of nation building or nationalism generally are passe, if not downright imperialistic and therefore – apparently – inherently xenophobic).

Sadly, it’s not warring political factions that are pulling the country apart; Harper, as much as Trudeau, had to create policies in contemplation of the realities of where the majority of the voting population lives. What’s lacking is any gumption by the federal politicians to update the political mechanics of the country to provide for a counterbalance to rule by sheer numbers. What was provided under the BNA Act in 1867 (when then white-bread English Toronto was about as far west as “developed” Canada extended) was clearly not drafted to contemplate a scenario where 150 years down the road a third of the population would live west of the Manitoba / Ontario border. It was drafted to reflect what existed in 1867. Things have changed since 1867, but the theories, practices, mechanics and underlying assumptions relevant to the Canadian system have not. Something sooner or later has got to give; and until we get more statesmen and fewer politicians, I have little faith that there is anyone in Ottawa with the appetite or the capacity to want to start the discussion.

So maybe we have to force the discussion on them, if they want one, and see where it all leads.
commented 2017-10-06 21:34:05 -0400
But having said all that I would not separate from upper Canada to avoid a Laurentian dictatorship just to be absorbed by another country to have no history with them and be another resource pool for somebody else… No I think Western Canada which standalone just fine by ourselves building our own pipelines and not worrying about Tidewater is our access to it would not be impeded or restricted at all.!!
commented 2017-10-06 21:32:46 -0400
Quaint notions like “Canada until you die” will only get you one thing: poverty.

I chose to leave Canada over fifteen years ago and work in the US. The rewards have been overwhelming ever since. More money, more opportunity, more wealth – even when things in the US were not that great, there was always something, if one is willing to move around and find the next opportunity. For a time, I even worked in developing Venezuela’s resources (before Chavez) and the money kept coming in.

As of 2005, I packed up and left Canada for good. Became a permanent resident and a citizen, and I will never return to Canada. And I know many others who have done the same. The US welcomes talent and welcomes Canadians. And getting ahead in the US is surprisingly easy.

Harper was a CINO scumbag who began the path to destruction – the sooner people realize this, the better.He lost an election that was his to win – loser through and through.

JT is leading the race to the bottom, and Notley and Wynne are glad to help.

Alberta will soon be wiped out. Finished. Depopulated.

But there is hope: leave Canada and join the US.

US wealth will explode by $10 trillion overnight – they will not say no.

Ottawa will not defend itself. Maybe JT will go to the UN and beg for an army to keep Western Canada from leaving. Yes, the thought of troops from Zimbabwe coming to keep Albertans Canadians is a hilarious one to consider.

And if Canada did attack, the Montana National Guard will crush them within a week – that is how weak Canada is.

The USA. From the Rio Grande to the North Pole is a beautiful thing.

Make it so.
commented 2017-10-06 21:32:13 -0400
As I passed by Liberal MP Kent Hehr’s office in Calgary yesterday while riding on the LRT, I was struck by a large poster filling the space of one of the windows, which boasted “Pipeline Approval”, followed by a large checkmark! Someone should get a photo of that before he takes it down!