September 03, 2019

EXCLUSIVE: McKenna told California billionaires in 2017 that she would continue to hike carbon tax

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show

Environment Minister Catherine McKenna has flip-flopped at least twice over the past two months about whether or not the Trudeau Liberals are willing to campaign on making life more expensive for all Canadians by raising the carbon tax if they are re-elected again this fall.


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It’s very confusing, but thankfully, the Toronto Sun’s Lorrie Goldstein was able to make sense of it all:

He writes that at the end of August,

“McKenna told the Globe and Mail the Trudeau government, if it wins re-election, might hike Trudeau’s carbon tax above $50 per tonne after 2022.

And that was a flip-flop from the Trudeau government’s position prior to June, which was that it would examine whether to hike the carbon tax higher than $50 per tonne after 2022, if it was re-elected in October.”

Still confused? Well it gets worse.

CTV News reported that McKenna has flip flopped one more time, after the Conservative PM Pierre Pollievre accused her of accidentally telling the truth about her plans for the carbon tax, post election:

McKenna dismissed claims by Conservative MP Pierre Poilievre that the government would stretch its promised $50 per tonne price cap by 2022, if re-elected this fall.

“Our position has not changed,” she said, speaking to reporters at a green jobs announcement on Monday. “Mr. Pierre Poilievre does press conferences all the time, most of the time misleading Canadians.”

But who is really misleading the Canadian public here, McKenna or Pollievre?

When Catherine McKenna met with a group of Silicon Valley elites, Democrat lawmakers, and an anti-oil billionaire named Tom Steyer as part of her three-day junket to the San Francisco area in 2017, McKenna was spinning a much different yarn than she is now.

She confirmed to the audience of social media giants, progressive politicians and foreign lobbyists that her carbon tax would go up in 2022.

The Rebel obtained the exclusive Access To Information documents from that trip, including briefing notes notes prepared for the minister to wow her anti-oil pals.

On page 151 of the 200 plus page document package, McKenna confirms her plans to raise carbon tax after 2022, just like her Conservative critics are saying they will.

“The overall approach will be reviewed in 2022 to ensure that it is effective and to confirm future price increases”

Confirm future price increase. Not contemplate. Not assess. Confirm.

The hike in the carbon tax if the Liberals are reelected is a sure thing. It’s confirmed.

It’s there in black and white. McKenna was telling foreign billionaires and American activists one thing while she is telling the Canadian public another. You just can’t trust a single word she says.

McKenna’s intentions were, and remain, to raise the Liberals tax on everything.

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commented 2019-09-05 13:10:47 -0400
DALE WARREN commented 2 hours ago
@ Andy . . .
Electric Cars have a huge carbon footprint when they arrive at the showroom . . . the battery alone has made several ocean voyages. "

The battery alone is the only component that matters, as the rest of the car would be built anyway. Nobody denies there’s initial overhead – the question is one of how long it takes for the operating savings to pay back the initial outlay. What’s very interesting is that even in the worst case scenario (as in, whole-car footprint; no recycled lithium in battery, and electricity generated by inefficient coal fired plants), the ROI period is less than the life expectancy of the vehicle. Improve any of those metrics and you come out ahead in terms of carbon footprint.

The price differential for EVs is shrinking. FIve years ago a Tesla was 200k, a Leaf went 80km on a charge, and the Chevy was actually a hybrid. What will the numbers look like five years from now?

“Carbon dioxide increases historically lag temperature increases”

As I pointed out in the other thread, this does not tell you what happens if you put the CO2 in first. But, this is why they’re worried about the permafrost melting.
commented 2019-09-05 10:33:18 -0400
@ Andy . . .
Electric Cars have a huge carbon footprint when they arrive at the showroom . . . the battery alone has made several ocean voyages. Plus the fact that they perform poorly in northern climes . . . and the cost is usually more than 10 or 15 thousands more than an equivalent gas vehicle . . . which will buy you fuel for years.

“Carbon dioxide increases historically lag temperature increases. “In 1985, ice cores extracted from Greenland revealed temperatures and CO2 levels going back 150,000 years,” writes author Joanne Nova. “Temperature and CO2 seemed locked together. It was a turning point — the ‘greenhouse effect’ captured attention. But, in 1999 it became clear that carbon dioxide rose and fell after temperatures did. By 2003, we had better data showing the lag was 800 ± 200 years. CO2 was in the back seat.”

Of course the climate crusaders have written at great length to tell us it’s all just a myth. This time, they say, the warming (which is in doubt) is caused by man. It just has to be. All those other warming periods, the alarmists tell us, can be explained by natural events, such as Earth’s orbit around the sun."

https://issuesinsights.com/2019/08/26/a-short-list-of-facts-global-warming-alarmists-dont-want-to-face/
commented 2019-09-05 01:54:14 -0400
ALBERTA MAGA commented 4 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson emmission levels went down under Harper.”

Yes, because of the recession. A devastated economy emits less.

This is stated immediately after the point you’re citing.
commented 2019-09-04 22:13:33 -0400
Andrew Stephenson emmission levels went down under Harper.
commented 2019-09-04 20:21:18 -0400
What’s also really interesting, my friend, is that you’ve cited, as evidence, a paper that explicitly endorses anthropogenic climate change as a real and verified phenomenon. Do you find the authors reputable?
commented 2019-09-04 20:18:25 -0400
Harvard study finds that wind turbines create MORE global warming than the fossil fuels they eliminate – and the same is true for scooters and electric car"

The Harvard study doesn’t address the electric cars at all, the blogger appears to have thrown that one in just because he felt like it. (though I do find it interesting that the best the anti-EV types can find, is an 8-12 year equivalence period, in worst case scenario). He also apparently hopes you don’t read the paper, where right in the abstract it says: " The warming effect is: small compared with projections of 21st century warming, approximately equivalent to the reduced warming achieved by decarbonizing global electricity generation, and large compared with the reduced warming achieved by decarbonizing US electricity with wind. For the same generation rate, the climatic impacts from solar photovoltaic systems are about ten times smaller than wind systems. Wind’s overall environmental impacts are surely less than fossil energy"

WHich is to say, that this isn’t unequivocally bad. It says there’s an effect, sure, but also a distinct ROI period, after which the wind comes out ahead. They also distinctly endorse solar power, which I doubt that the blogger either read, or hopes that you don’t.

Kinda need to read things a bit more deeply than the standard climate change denial blog, Dale. As in many instances, the cited paper doesn’t actually support the claims being made about it. There’s a reason they rarely directly link it.
commented 2019-09-04 19:39:28 -0400
Tax those dumb Canooks . . . . they luv it . . . .
I bet they will go out and re-elect Jihad Justin & Klimate Barbie again in October.

The world runs on oil & natural gas . . . wind & solar might work at the cabin, but will NEVER power a province or an industrial city. In the next few years the Auto Sector is going to move south of the border, along with what little Cdn Industry is still here.
50 years from now it is likely we will still need oil & gas . . . unless some brilliant engineer invents the Dilithium Chrystal . . . one thing we know for sure . . . it won’t be the govt.

Harvard study finds that wind turbines create MORE global warming than the fossil fuels they eliminate – and the same is true for scooters and electric cars
https://www.naturalnews.com/2019-08-26-wind-turbines-create-more-global-warming.html
commented 2019-09-04 18:52:58 -0400
Climate Barbie is as truthful as Arabs.
commented 2019-09-04 17:03:46 -0400
“IT’s actually a fairly sound economic strategy…”

Stephenson is still busy flinging the BS in hopes some of it will stick, but where is the troll’s echo chamber for the expected pat on its back? Pretty quiet without them, are they off taking a break or busy defending Trudeau and his caucus of clowns over on NP and various other outlets?
commented 2019-09-04 16:01:02 -0400
Robert Hewgill your a moronic Idiot.
commented 2019-09-04 15:40:45 -0400
If/when turdo & Co. get in, I hope they triple or quadruple the carbon tax. I want to hear the squeals coming from the urban shitholes that voted for them.

Meanwhile, the Inner Sanctum in China and India and much of the Third World will continue piss away our largesse on themselves.
commented 2019-09-04 14:20:28 -0400
““Stephenson” why don’t you move to Venezuela? Obviously you’d be much happier there than trying to turn Canada into a copy of that country.”

I would rather not turn Canada into an economic train wreck which is utterly dependent on selling cruddy oil to the US. It’s bad enough that Alberta’s already tried and failed at the Venezuela strategy.

LMAO, Liberals only know how to tax and spend and in the process screw Canadians over, only the elites will be exempt as they will be profiting from the scam. "

IT’s actually a fairly sound economic strategy, one in which many economists subscribe. Get rid of income taxes, and replace them completely with consumption taxes. The idea is, basically, income taxes are an indiscriminate drag on the economy, whereas consumption taxes affect only those who consume, and are easily avoidable. I’d love a Canada where the only tax you pay is on gas, and where you can avoid that tax completely with an electric car, wouldn’t you?
commented 2019-09-04 13:46:46 -0400
Andrew Stephenson would not last a week in a place like Venezuela.
He is more comfortable in Canada throwing spitballs safely from a distance.
commented 2019-09-04 13:46:30 -0400
Canadian voters are some of the dumbest . Had a union pension news letter pushing for national pharma care plan . Absolute mind numbing that you think that the government could run the program and not cost us 10x more than a private company .
As for Barbie she should get a real job and quit screwing Canada .
Andrew you have got to get out of your mom’s basement and quit smoking so much pot .
commented 2019-09-04 12:57:24 -0400
“I hope they do raise it, as long as they cut income taxes to leave the average Canadian at net-zero, and cut taxes for those who live efficiently”

LMAO, Liberals only know how to tax and spend and in the process screw Canadians over, only the elites will be exempt as they will be profiting from the scam.

“Stephenson” why don’t you move to Venezuela? Obviously you’d be much happier there than trying to turn Canada into a copy of that country.
commented 2019-09-04 11:57:49 -0400
I hope they do raise it, as long as they cut income taxes to leave the average Canadian at net-zero, and cut taxes for those who live efficiently. As BC has illustrated, our current tax level is only sufficient to slow down emission growth, not stop it or reverse it.
commented 2019-09-04 09:55:48 -0400
Good reporting Sheila.
commented 2019-09-04 05:02:36 -0400
Catastrophic man made global warming is a hoax. This draconian tax is solely designed to generate more revenue for a corrupt Liberal regime that lives in luxury while distributing huge dividends to the wealthy Liberal elite.
Increased carbon taxes won’t effect climate change one little bit. It will however fund our corrupt and lawless PM’s weekend surfin’ safaris to the left coast in booze laden High-as-a-Kite One, while placing millions of his Canadian serfs in energy poverty.
🤢🤦‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤢
commented 2019-09-03 22:16:02 -0400
If it wasn’t a lie then it wasn’t Liberal. If it comes from a Liberal’s mouth it ‘is’ a lie. The basic law of BS.
commented 2019-09-03 21:59:57 -0400
Make it a 500 a ton and 1000 in Alberta. Maybe that will wake up the Rip Van Winkles in Alberta. Including Ottawa’s jailer in Alberta, Kenny.
commented 2019-09-03 21:17:25 -0400
Canadians doubtless will moan and groan when they find that they’re paying more and more taxes while getting lowered service resources. Trudeau just needs enough stupid people to vote for him.

I also wonder if seniors and disabled people will be told they’re asking more than the government is able to give.