June 22, 2017

A $15 minimum wage won’t cut jobs? Don’t believe the hype (Guest host: Jerry Agar)

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

I'm Jerry Agar, guest hosting for Ezra Levant... Ontario is raising the minimum wage to $15 an hour. 

People like me will tell you that increasing the minimum wage is destructive to low income workers and first time job seekers. It throws people out of work.

So imagine the leftist glee when the University in California of Berkeley supposedly proved that, “Seattle’s $15 minimum wage hasn’t cut jobs.”

But these leftists don’t have all the facts. You see:

Seattle's minimum wage rise applies only to Seattle, not the surrounding area (…) Low-wage individuals working in Seattle when the ordinance passed transitioned to jobs outside Seattle at an elevated rate

In other words: Seattle did not prove that the wage change didn’t cut jobs – they proved the opposite.

One manufacturer told me that the increase in Ontario will add over $600,000 a year to his expenses — with no increase in efficiency or sales to make up for it.

I know people working with big money to develop a restaurant/bar with no wait staff. Just keyboards and robots.

It is a scary future for low wage workers, but politicians will push minimum wage because they know the schools haven’t done their job teaching economics.

PLUS: A woman phoned in to my radio show recently. She was being treated for cancer, and she said she didn't what it cost taxpayers.

I asked: If we could give her the best treatment, but at 75 per cent of the cost, would she be OK with that? She said no.

She's like many Canadians who blindly claim we have the best system in the world. We do not, and tonight I’ll provide you with the studies and statistics that prove it.

TONIGHT’S GUESTS: Todd MacKay, Prairie Director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, is backing Brad Wall's opposition to the carbon tax; and Simon Kent, Managing Editor of Breitbart London, who has the latest on where the Brexit fight stands after the election.

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commented 2017-06-24 16:56:46 -0400
Andrew i will commend you on creating something , but the rest of your comment proves why government jobs are so wasteful and does not prove how ii can be replaced. Public sector is wasteful and would not survive without simply increasing taxes and demands.
commented 2017-06-24 16:04:43 -0400
Well Drew….I do believe all knowing Andy has confirmed what you had suspected. You see these educated but not so smart types have a skewed view of how the world, and those that do their best to survive it, really works.
Jimmy the mouth piece Reece, every one knows that emergency care in this country for the most part is fabulous. It is the preventative and non emergency work that is a fail. Just a couple of hours south on me into the U.S. it takes minutes or an hour or so to get an MRI…..not months. We need huge improvements to get our monies worth, that is for certain.
PS…..comprehension is not your strong suit for sure, it’s all about the narrative with you leftist regressive fucktards.
commented 2017-06-24 14:25:05 -0400
Drew Wakariuk commented 15 hours ago
""Andrew Stephenson actually automation has eliminated your kind of job , not mine. " and "
“Andrew you have never worked an actual day in your life, and why should an owner not complain about a lazy employee, they are paid to do a damn job”

Let me tell you a little story. One summer in undergrad, I got a job in a research lab. Real boring stuff, mostly aggregating and condensing large spreadsheets of things like weather data. The previous guy had basically done this all manually,.. which worked, but was slow and tedious. I came in and wrote a script that automated the process… I was on salary, so as long as my assigned tasks were being done, no problem. I was spending about four hours doing something that was budgeted for an entire week, and that was mostly quality control, catching it if it went off-track (I sometimes needed to put in six hours if it went really off the rails)… and that freed me up to go play with side projects. This cost my boss nothing, since I was being paid for the data entry…. and that side project turned out so well it contributed to me winning a pretty prestigious scholarship that would fund my graduate studies.

So, yes. In fact, I have done jobs that can be automated. In fact, I automated myself out of my first real job… but that freed me up to far greater opportunity. I fully support this, since automating the shit work frees people up to do more interesting things.
commented 2017-06-24 03:59:30 -0400
Jimmy Reece maybe look at what you said before you make an idiotic comment like that.
commented 2017-06-24 03:58:10 -0400
Jimmy Reece and i said that i have a reason , now maybe try top comprehend what you read halfwit. And when did you say “where as others may have reason to complain.”? That is not in your comment. Do you enjoy making yourself look like an imbecile?
commented 2017-06-24 03:03:09 -0400
Drew Wakariuk.

Again, if you were able to comprehend what you read – you would see that I said that healthcare in Candada has been great for me and my family. I PERSONALLY have no reason to complain, where as others may have reason to complain.

Do you get it now or do you need me to break it down further for you to understand?
commented 2017-06-23 23:13:23 -0400
Andrew you have never worked an actual day in your life, and why should an owner not complain about a lazy employee, they are paid to do a damn job. You think that attitude is good for people? Try getting a government job and see how little they like productive people. It may open your blind eyes. And by the way , anything you know i can easily look up, but you can never do the work i can. You are the one easily replaced by a machine.
commented 2017-06-23 23:10:09 -0400
jimmy Reece i have a reason , many days in pain waiting to see the surgeon under the NDP, when i did not wait long at all under the Cons. And try getting lab work done in Quebec , see how you like waiting all day LMAO! And in case you are too lazy to look it up, Germany has a better system, but they have 1 management level position for every 5 we have. We have so much waste. And there are people that have been left to die by our system and you damn well know it.
commented 2017-06-23 23:07:35 -0400
Andrew Stephenson actually automation has eliminated your kind of job , not mine.
commented 2017-06-23 20:15:17 -0400
Paul McCullough said, "Just increase minimum wage to $1000/hr then we’ll all be rich. "

Shhhhh! Don’t give the socialists any ideas! They would think that is an excellent idea.

I swear, socialists cannot think past the end of their fantasy worlds … and math, well that is near impossible for many of them.
commented 2017-06-23 19:50:30 -0400
“Jack Pallance commented 5 hours ago
Math, logic and observation should make how obviously stupid it is. First, my wife talked to her manager, and her manager at the grocery store will no longer hire high school students if she has to pay $15. So this at the best shifts jobs from the young to the old. Indeed, many small business’ will struggle with less employees. And as someone else pointed out places will now be more apt to automate. Good bye job.

I would like to ask, why$15? What commissar decided on that? Why not $50 an hour? Why not $100? "

The $50 or $100 is an appeal to extremes, and fallacious. The goal of a $15 minimum wage is to pull full time workers above the poverty line, not to make them rich.

The push to automate is a GOOD thing. Ever since the industrial revolution, increasing per-employee productivity has created more prosperity than it destroys, even if it is transiently disruptive. It’s what created the middle class, and today things like computers and other productivity allows employers to generate more wealth with the same number of workers, which makes employees wealthier and drives economic growth so strongly that the jobs lost are replaced by better ones, elsewhere.

Seriously, though … why would you want to work at a grocery store, if you can get a better job elsewhere? Automation creates those better jobs. it’s so wasteful to waste human capital on trivial tasks.
commented 2017-06-23 19:42:26 -0400
If you raise minimum wage to $15 then the employees who have been working at the same place and earned wage increases are going to want to have their wage increase as well as it wouldn’t make sense if the new employees are now making as much the guy who has been there for 3 or 4 years.
commented 2017-06-23 17:14:34 -0400
- Just increase minimum wage to $1000/hr then we’ll all be rich. The socialists ran out of other peoples money so they try to buy votes by forcing businesses to do it for them. They count on the utter stupidity of their voter base.

- Pierre Trudeau did a lot to undermine Canadian unity. Justin “Fidel” Trudeau seems to be hoping to continue that job. Brad Wall seems to be the only leader in this country that actually cares about the people he represents. Patrick Brown is Wynne’s best hope for re-election. He’s a disaster.

- BREXIT is done. Make it happen. Enough screwing around with this. If May can’t handle it she needs to step aside for someone who can.

- Canada has the best healthcare system in the world ………………. as long as you don’t need to use it.
commented 2017-06-23 16:07:24 -0400
Jack Pallance—Yes I also thought $50.00 or $60.00 MW for the youngsters would help stimulate Ontario’s economy. Just think, they could buy deluxe European cars instead of little gas misers. They could also keep the Construction Unions going by buying houses when they are still teenagers.
Premier Wynne is smart in that she avoids delays in her policies by not asking the companies that pay the MW for their opinions.
commented 2017-06-23 15:02:54 -0400
Canada’s health care system has been great for me and my family. Of course, things can always been improved no matter what it is, but I PERSONALLY have no reason to complain.
commented 2017-06-23 14:25:57 -0400
Math, logic and observation should make how obviously stupid it is. First, my wife talked to her manager, and her manager at the grocery store will no longer hire high school students if she has to pay $15. So this at the best shifts jobs from the young to the old. Indeed, many small business’ will struggle with less employees. And as someone else pointed out places will now be more apt to automate. Good bye job.

I would like to ask, why$15? What commissar decided on that? Why not $50 an hour? Why not $100?
commented 2017-06-23 14:17:37 -0400
Agar is basically arguing against an interpretation that didn’t exist in the paper, and his conclusions are not supported.

Individual employers may suffer somewhat, but overall, the job market seems to feel little impact. This very argument has been ongoing for 150 years and even today nobody can consistently demonstrate that minimum wage hikes lead to job losses, which indicates that if there is an effect, it’s minimal.

As for the employer complaining about lack of productivity, whose fault is that? It’s not the employee’s fault you run an obsolete operation reliant on cheap labour.
commented 2017-06-23 12:11:45 -0400
Whinny is simply bribing people with other peoples money. However this time tested Liberal tactic is not working this time. The Liberals may win ten seats instead of nine.
commented 2017-06-23 11:20:16 -0400
Excellent show Jerry-good to hear from you again. Minimum wage is not good-will only continue to
show decline in jobs-just ask the employers. Patrick Brown needs to start acting more like Brad Wall if he wants to get elected-no carbon tax period. I have stopped all contributions to the Conservative Party because of him and Andrew Scheer-what they are Liberals now?? Ezra always gets the best people on his show!
commented 2017-06-23 10:45:43 -0400
Health care in Canada, don’t get me started. Canada is absolutely the worst country in which to expect proper, leading edge treatment. Waiting times kill cancer patients. Hard to know if the ineffective treatment or wait times are more responsible for dismal outcome, but dismal outcome is what Canada has.
My advice, go to the States, now.
If the system didn’t have to pay so many ‘suits’, maybe it could afford to make use of cutting edge treatments.
Vet clinics in Canada are run more efficiently and provide better treatment. Why? because they are privately run, market driven and survive on their ability to perform.
Animals get much better healthcare in Canada than Canadians do.
commented 2017-06-23 10:34:12 -0400
Simon Kent’s reply to Gerry’s question regarding how Simon his friends and family are holding up in the face of terrorism in Britain disappointed me. He did say Brits want strong leadership in that area, but the ‘carry on, who;s coming for tea’ attitude is starting to look very lame from my perspective looking in at what is coming our way. It doesn’t seem to be a very effective attitude. It is fully time to react and protect what remains of Britain is it not? A little ‘hell no’ can go a long way. It looks to me and I am sure to Islam that they want Britain more than the Brits do(whether it is true or not, that is how it looks).
I hope to hell Canada doesn’t let the same acceptance settle in. We need to be excited now at this stage in Canada so we have a chance of saving ourselves from going as far down the Islam road as European countries have. We have to want our country more than they do or they will take it right out from under our noses.
commented 2017-06-23 07:14:57 -0400
Ron Joseph, you are right, I did not mean to say our health care system is great; I used the wrong wording. Sorry folks.
We get failing grades on our health care system in so many different areas, and I also think Canadians are gouged when they fill a prescription.
commented 2017-06-23 03:29:35 -0400
Actually, Fast Food will have to automate and lay off enough people so they don’t have to raise prices. Restaurants, on the other hand, can eliminate tips like Europe, increase costs by 10-15 percent and keep pricing with the tip included similar to before and they will weather the storm and probably not lose customers.

The losers will be companies with people currently making 15-20 bucks an hour who will now want a raise and service type jobs who can’t pass costs onto the customer very easily, they will have to try to reduce costs and/or headcount.
commented 2017-06-23 03:21:11 -0400
No to $15.00hr Minimum Wage and Yes to TAX CUTS! Yes to ADJUSTING YOUR LIFE TO THE Private Sector – THAT is REALITY
commented 2017-06-23 02:47:28 -0400
$15 min wage + carbon tax + hydro costs. Glad I don’t live in Ontario.

Not too long ago, the Ontario premier went onto the Andrew Lawton show. She said that employers can pay the increased min wage hike from money saved from the lowered hydro bill.
commented 2017-06-23 01:50:08 -0400
According to the Fraser Institute, healthcare spending in Alberta has increased 314% since 1998 while services have worsened. Despite 42% of Alberta’s fiscal budget being spent on healthcare, wait times have increased while the average age of residents in Alberta has decreased. Of all the provinces, Alberta has the youngest average age in Canada at 36 years.


Time for Alberta taxpayers to demand an independent fiscal audit regarding government healthcare expenditures.

Canadians would be better off with a competitive, multi-tiered system when thousands of Canadians are forced to buy Blue Cross, pay for dental work, and go to America for private treatment anyway. Those who don’t mind paying for private services would free up and increase the quality of public services for those who do not want to pay extra. More choice is always a good thing…and would save lives.

commented 2017-06-23 00:02:02 -0400
Tammie wrote——" We have to look at what is keeping the Health Care System below par."I play golf, so I have to explain that almost everyone uses the term " below par " the wrong way. Below par is great , only the best can play below par, and I’m sure Tammie didn’t want to say that the Health System in Canada is great. Sorry for that, but its a slow night.

A Doctor told me that 5% of the people = 80% of the Health costs. I think he meant 5% = 80% of the care. Bureaucrats are likely 40% of the costs, especially in Canada.
commented 2017-06-22 23:49:26 -0400
I was told that if the $15 MW law passes, temp employment agencies in the province plan expanding. Temp Minimum wage jobs will become the norm in that province.
commented 2017-06-22 23:32:11 -0400
I usually don’t like the fill in hosts on either the radio or tv programs I enjoy listening or watching. Although Ezra doesn’t have anything to worry about I do enjoy your fill ins when he is away. Please keep up the good work and you can fill in anytime for Ezra.
commented 2017-06-22 23:28:37 -0400
The left probably studied this by looking at jobs that paid higher than minimum wage to begin with, since none of those would really be affected.