October 18, 2017

UK bans surgery for smokers, obese. Here's who might be next.

Ezra LevantRebel Commander


Look at this headline in the Telegraph of London: "NHS provokes fury with indefinite surgery ban for smokers and obese”

“NHS" stands for the National Health Service. It’s their government-run health monopoly.

And according to their own statistics, between 30 and 40 per cent of Brits won’t be allowed to have surgery because they fall into those categories.

I believe in personal responsibility — if you’re fat (like I am) or if you smoke (I don’t) those are unhealthy choices, and I think you should pay your own way.

We do that with private insurance; a non-smoker gets a lower life insurance premium. It’s actuarial science. You could almost say it’s survival of the fittest.

But I thought that’s what the NHS, and Canada’s Medicare system, and America’s Medicaid system was all about — ending the Darwinian realities of life by treating forcing everyone to be the same.

You can’t force everyone to participate by paying taxes, then change the rules.

Meanwhile, did you know that when it comes to health care, we often spend more money on the last year, the last month, even the last week of life than we do in the previous 70 or 80 years?

So, who do you think will be next…?

TONIGHT'S GUESTS: Veteran columnist Lorne Gunter says Justin Trudeau's recent attempts at "damage control" are "bizarre and insulting;" then Jay Cameron of the Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms brings us an update on the pro-life free speech controversy at the University of Alberta.

FINALLY: Your messages to me.

PS: Be sure to watch the latest episode of Sheila Gunn Reid's new program The Gunn Show, at 7pm MT/9pm ET tonight!

 

 

What You Can Do
  1. Subscribe to Premium content!
  2. Donate today to help keep The Rebel fighting!
  3. Visit The Rebel Store to get cool swag you won't find anywhere else.
  4. JOIN TheRebel.media FREE for more fearless news and commentary you won’t find anywhere else.
  5. Like TheRebel on Facebook
  6. Follow TheRebel on Twitter
Comments
You must be logged in to comment. Click here to log in.
commented 2017-10-19 20:47:21 -0400
Social services such as medical services are paid through taxes. Since the Nazis running the socialist government want to pick and choose who gets treatment or not then all smokers should not have to pay a cent in taxes anymore on their tobacco products. Why should smokers have to pay all that tax over and over again when they will be told to take a hike if they need medical treatment from their governmental run medical institutions? Churchill was spot on when he stated that the fascists of the future would call themselves anti-fascists. I still think it is hilarious that the left continue to claim that the Nazis were far right wing when even Hitler himself stated that they were socialists and he was one of the most anti-smoking advocates of his time. The leftist academia has done very well trying to rewrite history and dumb down the younger generations.
commented 2017-10-19 20:00:36 -0400
You’ve all seen in the movies, how by using CGI they can make an ‘inner’ or hidden demon briefly manifest in the actor’s face, as per the plot.
Well in your video of Justin’s ‘bizarre’ behavior, the second time a reporter asks to address Morneau (just past the 13 minute mark) and Justin does a double take on the me, me, me, me thing, there’s a fraction of a second where it looks like Satan, er Justin’s demon is peeking out – it’s where he has a bit of an angry squirt before he get’s it under control. It kinda jumped out at me and it is a little unsettling…you guys didn’t do a CGI thing to enhance the message did you?
commented 2017-10-19 12:39:27 -0400
I have commented that my dogs have better health care than we do. This is because I decide what they get, pay for it, and they never have any wait times, as opposed to being at the mercy of the Government.

We are already seeing rationing to some extent where Government controls what you get and when in Canada. Made worse by not allowing people to get their own service for things that the Government provides, or supposedly or eventually provides.
commented 2017-10-19 11:15:44 -0400
The proper and natural response to having your coverage rescinded is to stop payments to the plan – those effected should cease premium payments to NHS immediately. UK has been long overdue for a tax strike
commented 2017-10-19 10:43:46 -0400
Despotic socialist administrators struggling to make finite entitlements spread out over their new voter base – they must cut endemic Brits off these systems so they have the resources to bribe their new voter base.
commented 2017-10-19 08:58:19 -0400
What an awkward moment between our Brat-in-Chief and his adoring media. Jr. has a nasty tendency to mess up when he is on the defensive. Look for things to get worse for our Dear Leader as we get closer to the election. In Ontario, the Liberal brand has been tarnished by the Wynne government. In addition, Jarmeet Singh is the personification of diversity and a hard left Dipper. Next time around the little spud won’t be able to move to the left of the Dippers to steal votes from the NDP. Now, if only the Conservatives had a leader with a little fortitude….sigh.
commented 2017-10-19 00:57:32 -0400
It seems like the British and ourselves are forgetting the cost of bringing in 100’s of thousands of Refugees that havn’t paid into the NHS or the Canadian Health System, and don’t have a nickel at the start, and most won’t have a nickel at the end, as they may never work.
If I’m wrong and some do get a job and contribute, Welcome to Canada. A Government job doesn’t count, as they are a tax increase to the taxpayer.
commented 2017-10-18 23:57:59 -0400
NHS in UK is in bad shape. The Hospitals are over filled with Muslims who have conned their way in just for some place to stay and get free meals, acting like animals, throwing blood samples or urine over nurses. It is like a Zoo. Nurses are quitting their jobs because they are scared. In addition, people from other Countries who are members of the EU will come to the UK for treatment, because it is free. The whole system is screwed up, just like every other thing initiated by Socialist. I do not know if it is the law now but when I was last in England, Americans were entitled to free medical service in the UK, as were Canadians. American Women used to fly to the UK to have their Baby, and then fly back again, this was cheaper than paying an American Hospital for the service.
commented 2017-10-18 23:49:23 -0400
Lawyer Jay Cameron, as well, made an excellent presentation at the M-103 hearings.
The unjust behaviour of the university is compounded by leftist judges. If you have leftist-leaning judges like that up the ladder, no way will justice be served.
commented 2017-10-18 23:05:53 -0400
… The inevitable result of communism, and it’s policies like unlimited “free” medical services for all, is rationing. Wake up, get used to it.
… And, rationing the irresponsible is the right place to start.
commented 2017-10-18 22:58:43 -0400
Paul McC……Agreed! A number of years ago asked for a tooth that was history to be pulled. I was given many options to repair it at great costs of course. I had a great plan so the money wasn’t the issue, the tooth was pulled and no more than 15 min in the chair and less than 5 from start to standing for the removal. As I was leaving I heard the Dr say complicated extraction. I challenged her on it and she explained it was none of my business, I wasn’t paying. The rest of the conversation didn’t go well, I got a new dentist and she was on the watch list of the insure company.
commented 2017-10-18 21:46:59 -0400
Good show. Pretty close to home. Euthanasia saves millions.
Not people.
I’m embarrassed by the U of A.
We will raise awareness.
We’ll get so sick of winning
commented 2017-10-18 21:43:04 -0400
As one ages, it is the old injuries of sports and labour that crop up and require more medical attention. So I guess that means anyone who has a healthy sporting lifestyle or open air employment should be immediately flagged for not receiving future treatment due to lifestyle.

Come to think of it, statistics prove that anyone with a plentiful, healthy diet are more likely to live to old age then die. Again, anyone eating healthy needs to be flagged because their lifestyle will cost socialist healthcare down the road.
commented 2017-10-18 21:38:52 -0400
It’s a good thing I wasn’t the journalist who Trudeau was talking to when he said “you have a chance to talk to the prime minister.” Because I don’t think I would have been able to restrain myself from responding with “OK. When will Mr. Butts be joining us?”
commented 2017-10-18 21:30:19 -0400
Time to defund hospitals that do this.
commented 2017-10-18 21:01:53 -0400
- And here’s the biggest issue with universal healthcare. The complete lack of control over your healthcare. In a private system you (or your employer) pay the healthcare costs & the system is run like a business – so costs are kept down due to competition & you choose what to pay for. This once existed in the US & may once again – we’ll see. In the public health system everyone pays. Cronyism is rampant as is the bureaucracy & costs skyrocket. The government makes the decisions for your healthcare so they can make you pay for someone’s sex reassignment surgery but you have to pay for your own eye exams. As the system deteriorates you’ll pay more & more for less & less.

- Trudeau doesn’t do damage control very well – much the way he does everything else. He seems to think he’s a cult of personality. Maybe all the fawning from the media party wasn’t such a good thing for him.

- The left has the worst policies but the best marketing department. The last thing they want is to have to actually defend their policies because they don’t hold up to the light of day. This is why they have to censor or “deplatform”. These days Universities are no places for adults to discuss things.

- I’m watching the new shows mostly on YouTube. I figure it’s best to get whatever monetization you can out of them before they go behind the pay wall (other than some clips – I assume that’s the plan anyway). Loving what I’ve seen so far. Looking forward to the weeks ahead.
commented 2017-10-18 21:00:02 -0400
CRIMEMINISTER Gerald butte’s hood ornament sure is creepy
I think they’re falling apart , back benchers constituency revolt
EZRA , enjoyed the way you and LORNE went to pick a parts on vacouse one
It was entertaining !!!!
commented 2017-10-18 20:57:57 -0400
Ezra, excellent questions for the NHS!
Socialists will push for discontinuing elder care and life saving treatment/medications; saying there is only so many dollars to spend & will present it as a better investment to restrict care to the young. Euthanasia will be couched as saving money….sickening! Meanwhile, billions will sent to foreign nations without any difficulty whatsoever!
Subsidizing heroine addicts with illegal drugs…what could possibly go wrong!
If the NHS continue with this policy, then, Islamic jihadists who are injured in practice runs or actual terror attacks should not receive any medical care whatsoever. Let them bleed out before their arrest!

Great interview with Lorne Gunter, he brings a lot to the conversation!
Creepy is an excellent description of Trudeau’s comportment.

Thanks for the update by Jay Cameron, I’m glad to hear there is an appeal underway. The University of Alberta is censoring pro-life speech/display. The Code of Student Behaviour is not worth the paper it’s written on.
commented 2017-10-18 20:25:28 -0400
Listening to Trudeau talk about small business was just painful.
commented 2017-10-18 20:15:50 -0400
From what I read the NHS is in real trouble financially, so perhaps that’s why they’re going after the smokers and the obese.

BTW, Ezra, you don’t look fat to me.