August 06, 2015

“Who do they think is going to pay the bills for everything?” Ezra Levant's hot take on the Canadian leaders debate

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

Not a lot of people watched tonight’s first Canadian leaders debate — about 30,000 watched it streaming on YouTube, with more on some smaller TV channels. Four party leaders were present — Stephen Harper, Thomas Mulcair, Justin Trudeau and Elizabeth May. With Paul Wells representing the Media Party as the emcee.

May’s presence was weird, as it always is. Not just because she’s ideologically extreme, and a bit of a conspiracy theorist — babbling away about Harper creating secret police; or how natural gas has a higher environmental footprint than coal. But also because she has nothing to lose by making an ass out of herself.

But she’s not an equal opportunity attacker; she’s really Justin Trudeau’s tag-team debating partner, alternating between going after Harper or Mulcair. Even on the one subject she disagrees passionately with Trudeau about — he supports the anti-terrorism law, C-51, and she opposes it — she just could not bring herself to attack her co-leader, Trudeau.

Harper came across well as a fatherly figure — trustworthy on the economy and security. Mulcair came across as fatherly too, but at times he seemed wobbly on details. Justin Trudeau played to his stereotype — the young, dashing former drama teacher who deeply loves Canada, and can rattle off Hallmark Card-style banalities to prove it.

The scariest part of the debate was when all four leftists (including Wells) piled on Harper over the oilsands and pipelines. It’s terrifying, in that if any of the opposition ever acted on their anti-oil declarations, Canada’s economy would tumble into a deep recession, countless jobs would be lost, and we’d simply import more OPEC oil. They truly have no clue — not surprising, given that none of Harper’s opponents have a degree in economics, or have held a meaningful private sector job. They just know that bashing oil and gas sells, at least to the Media Party, and to well-funded environmental NGOs.

The best part surely was a similarly lop-sided piling on, against the new requirement that Canadians show ID before voting. That’s a 90%+ winner with voters, but it appalled all of Harper’s opponents. He knows it and he loved it.

All in all, nothing really moved. And with two months to go till the election, the only enduring value of tonight’s debate will be as feedstock for future TV attack ads for each party against the other.

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commented 2015-08-12 07:10:28 -0400
You’re not kidding about the last 90 days( and counting). Boom to bust. I’ve seen too many large facility’s shut down since then. Not happy times. Biggest problem with top heavy establishments is they forget where the money gets made. It’s on the floor. Let entrepreneurs do what they do. Government should support this because this is their income. They should fight for our ability to be independent.Shut down industry, government will collapse. Like Ontario. Don’t make the same mistake.
commented 2015-08-11 14:35:16 -0400
Rocky: I was not ranting. I just asked the question “If the Party thinks Harper’s most expensive election ever is no big deal, why blur his picture?” I meant the picture at the top of this page, where he is standing by his bus. And come to think of it, I think they cropped this photo too. In the original Nigel Wright is just visible underneath the bus.
commented 2015-08-09 19:37:55 -0400
Pretty darned staggering — but that it’s copybook lockstep-Leftardism — that those that froth-and-foam-flecked zealously pursue the ideology of evil, wrong and failed — and, as zealously, the detriment of everything Good and Successful and Right — would seek to rid Canada of its best ever Prime Minister and of the world’s second-best current national leader. (No 1? Australia’s Visionary @tonyabbottmhr)

What is it that causes successive generations of the Malignant-Envy-driven self, own-culture and inevitably and invariably, eventually, own-species-loathing to seek to transmogrify their mental illness, (Fascissocialism is a psychosis) insanity and delusion into the authoritarian-regulatory racketeering they all like to call “law” and "government?

That, of course but a rhetorical question. The answer’s “Evil.”

Brian Richard Allen
commented 2015-08-09 03:15:41 -0400
Jay Kelly, you obviously don’t know much about Canadian politics. Your rants are ridiculous and full of holes. You must have still been in diapers in 1995. And, WHAT ‘blurred picture’ of Harper are you talking about? Are you hallucinating?
commented 2015-08-09 01:13:16 -0400
If the Party thinks Harpers most expensive election ever is no big deal, why blur his picture
commented 2015-08-08 13:06:32 -0400
Good analysis. I agree totally.
commented 2015-08-08 11:20:16 -0400
Entitlement and big spending… Sorry Jay, I have to say that brand must go to the Liberals.
commented 2015-08-08 09:39:50 -0400
Jay, what a load of schist you have posted.
commented 2015-08-08 02:01:04 -0400
“Who do they think is going to pay the bills for everything?” If Harper has learned anything over the past nine years is that he can put all his expenses on the taxpayers’ tab. This super-long election campaign is costing taxpayers a bundle and Harper knows it, but he thinks he deserves anything that is to his partisan benefit. Not one of the four major parties speaks out in favour of smaller government, and the Conservatives have become the experts in entitlement and big-spending.
commented 2015-08-07 22:23:46 -0400
“Who do they think is going to pay the bills for everything?” Ezra asks.

Well Ezra, it’s not going to be Alberta anymore. Just wait until the “have nots” don’t get their equalization payments. Then they might be force to finally acknowledge that it was Alberta paying their bills for them. … … well except for Quebec. They won’t.
commented 2015-08-07 22:05:19 -0400
Bryan Beyack blames Harper for the recession, and in the same breath claims to be an authority on the oil patch. Not.
And as far as Norway is concerned, their taxes are so high most of the well to do live in London to escape being raped by their gov.t.
Yes they started an equivalent to our rainy day fund, which was started by Lougheed and plumped up by Klein, but Norway didn’t have foreign interlopers trying to shut down their extraction( they are not a threat, being a relatively small player). Stelmach, Redford and Prentice did a fine job of depleting billions in rainy day money which had been set aside. Nothing to do with Harper. Notely is just putting the finishing touches on the job.
Like Todd Patterson explained, they keep the lights on, leave and don’t effectively produce anything until the climate changes. Notely made sure their leaving was going to be a definite and quick retreat.
We don’t get more royalties because our oil other than domestic markets is refined mostly in Texas. You can only get so much for raw, and our markets don’t and won’t pay for processed, as it can and is already refined cheaply elsewhere. Our markets don’t want our refined product. Comparing Norway and Canadian oil extraction, markets, rainy day funds, and tax practice is like comparing apples and oranges. Stupid argument. Try again Bryan.
commented 2015-08-07 20:54:29 -0400
Todd Patterson, well stated.
commented 2015-08-07 20:52:47 -0400
Brian Beyak said, " Please dont talk about the oil business when you have no clue"

Brian, don’t down talk me. I know plenty about the oil and gas industry. Put away your superiority attitude.
commented 2015-08-07 18:41:14 -0400
NDP and Green Party would not exist except for government subsidization using taxpayer money. I support smaller government – a government which accounts fully and publicly for our tax money they spend.
commented 2015-08-07 18:36:52 -0400
Bryan Beyak, you are the idiot that does not understand how the oil industry works. I have worked in the oil industry for 35 years. So a little information for you. The oil companies will slow down exploration just enough to hold their mineral rights. They will shut in all marginally profitable production. They will produce enough basically to keep the lights on. This translates to ten of thousands of direct and indirect job loses. Also your left wing moron governments are going to loose billions in royalty revenues. So who do you think is going to pay for your left wing out of control spending? Your unions? Doctors, nurses, and government employee’s. I think not. The massive debt the they are going to run up will have to be payed by our children. You people are absolute morons!
commented 2015-08-07 16:37:08 -0400
I agree with John Smith. Harper has to come down hard on the Muslim problem. People are scared about this. Solutions, like controlling Immigration and so on, would help.
commented 2015-08-07 16:31:13 -0400
Peter Netterville you have no idea that jobs were lost because of Higher taxes in Alberta and you have no clue about the oil business if you think company’s will invest over 20 billion then pick up and leave that investment because of one quarter of losing a measly 120 million, they ride through the low oil price.
Norway taxes are probably double to triple the amount, do you see oil company’s leaving there. Please dont talk about the oil business when you have no clue ..exactly like Levant. And by the way Norway has money to ride through almost anything because their leadership decided not to sell out today for tomorrow like your favorite party did.
And yes Canada is officially in a recession …hmm who’s guided us into that mess …took Harper years to do it but who you gonna blame on that one.
commented 2015-08-07 15:09:40 -0400
That Paul Wells is a Trudeau loving piece of shit. How did he get to emcee the debate?
commented 2015-08-07 14:50:35 -0400
Okay, Bill Elder, since you have some fairly serious issues with all the potential PM candidates, you must have some idea of who you’d want living in Sussex Dr. From your post, you don’t like anybody we’ve got. Who DO you want? Lots of bitching doesn’t solve anything if you’ve got no resolution or alternative available…
commented 2015-08-07 14:37:28 -0400
Terry Rudden said: “To be honest, I’m getting lost in all the debate options. Can someone remind me when the Elizabeth May/Donald Trump debate is scheduled?” Now THAT would be an entertaining one for sure! How do we arrange such a confrontation? Lizze the Lush is after all, an ex pat American, so it may not be difficult!
commented 2015-08-07 13:08:46 -0400
@chris Mack I’m even more curious how a person without any form of identification manages to live. I also wonder which is more likely to occur, someone who is illegal taking advantage of non regulated electoral system or a legal resident with no no ability to obtain any form of identification being refused a vote? It would seem to me that since Canada and other nations send people to help monitor elections in other countries to monitor against fraud and corruption that we shouldn’t think it could never happen here.
commented 2015-08-07 12:33:01 -0400
Angry Tom complained that Harper added 150 billion dollars to the federal debt since he’s been in power. That’s a bout $4300 per citizen. For perspective, in the same time period, the public debt of every American increased by about $37000, or roughly over 8 times as much. Meanwhile, the public debt of the UK is increasing by about 300 billion Canadian dollars every year. Canada’s debt is far more manageable than most of the other advanced economies. Look at Japan and Italy. Yikes! And Deficits are still high in the other G7 countries but Canada’s budget is balanced (or nearly so). I say good job Prime Minister Harper.
commented 2015-08-07 12:12:23 -0400
As PM, Mulcair will eviserate the Clarity Act. This has to be kept front and centre, especially in Ontario.
commented 2015-08-07 12:06:45 -0400
This was just a dry run of these election side shows, limited mostly to gauging image saleability reaction of social media and city TV audiences, so I give it the gravity due – none – it was a pilot episode of sesame street screened at political daycare center (as all Twitter/facebook herd mentality politics are). More seasoned voters and tax-payers are under no illusions what this clown show truly represented. It was a group effort by all the branded insider parties, and the power structure’s crony media, to convince low information voters there is still a functional political system in this nation which is capable of delivering substantive changes in their living conditions. The recusant stage managed display set up by partisan media attempted to sell these losers as Uber-statesmen capable of changing society and even the climate, when in fact they have very little effect on the economy of their own nation. It was a farce writ large presented for mass consumption to the zombie voter block. – You know, the imbeciles who dote on political brand names in statecraft, as if running the nation is as easy as picking the right hockey team and coach to cheer for.

The Resultant display put forward convinces me we as Canadians are in a political leadership and policy vacuum, but worse yet – we have a top-down political system which is violently resistant to change/reform. We should be choosing a statesman to represent the interests of our nation not failed political hacks pimping the agendas of their insider patrons.
What I saw can be capsulized as such:

*Paul Wells – the poorly contained partisan in journo drag failing poorly to convince us the clown show was balanced and addressed concerns important to Canadians ( none of his questions reflected majority voter concerns- only the obsessions of the scribbling class and their partisan approach to journalism)
*Liz May – The eternal fringe lobbyist turned opposition bench seat warmer – need not dwell on much of her conflicting dogmas except to say she was not as shrill or intoxicated as she normally is.
*Mulcair – The career opportunist shoots for the golden parachute of his career-bureaucrat life. Policy and leadership of the office are secondary to the perks, power and prestige – a sinecure worth mortgaging his home for – 3X
*Trudeau: The failure to launch trust fund drama queen gaming his Daddy’s shadow for heir-like entitlement of PMship. Devoid of substance of vision and policy , he wants us to believe he is politically potty trained and able to pee standing up with the big grown up frauds. His uncle Fidel would be so proud of the collectivist bromides he squirts out in an incongruent meaningless string.
*Harper: The only degree Economist on the stage (which no one seems to recognize) is a failed politician – he is an EX-Austrian school economist, EX-parliamentary reformer, EX-inclusive Populist who has essentially run a top down maintenance government nurturing the welfare state, interventionist marketing system and a pseudo-command economy. Then he has to lie about how all those deficit budgets and debt keep piling up as the industrial and corporate base keeps shrinking due to state interventionism – not to mention misrepresenting his attempt to bring US-styled surveillance state tyranny to Canada.

Nope, Nope and Nope – Again I have no horse in the race – there is no candidate interested in consensual populist state craft, civil liberty, national sovereignty, laissez-faire free markets and demand economics. AGAIN informed voter must hold their nose as they look at the ballot and vote for the leader who will do them and the nation the least damage.
commented 2015-08-07 11:56:35 -0400
Ya Peter, I know, I know. We will be a like a pig in wolf’s clothing, or a sheep in pig’s clothing, or whatever, I am already getting more and more confused. Does that preclude me from running and winning? Of course not. Bacon is continuing to grow in popularity. Bake On is unstoppable.
Edward, when I tried to process the mind numbing arguments against demanding a piece of I.D. before allowing someone to vote, I had to just start howling. Ingenious, I must say. The best ideas come from the strangest places. We, the SWINEOS, will have a rotating crowd of about 20 supporters who will all show up to vote for ourselves, without I.D. of course, and will be wearing face covering headgear. We will also bus the crew from one voting station to another. Any “questioning” of out actions will immediately be met with cry’s of “racism”. I just wonder why I didn’t think of this earlier.
commented 2015-08-07 11:32:08 -0400
One of the phoniest criticisms I heard against Harper last night was how he ran up the debt which is certainly true but it was the other leaders who were criticizing him for not having spent more to get us out of the recession ( in other words for putting us deeper in debt). I would also really love to know who these individuals are who cannot find some form of identification and why if they are interested in voting they cannot get any assistance in acquiring at least one piece. I also noticed how the other parties were trying to play up the terms “fear and division” repeatedly like this was the new mantra against Harper the same way they kept trying to plant in the minds of voters in the last election that Stephen Harper had a “hidden agenda” which never materialized.
commented 2015-08-07 11:15:15 -0400
Chris Mack said, “Our sole purpose of running will be to fight our way to the troff and hang on. We will promise anything that we perceive that will get us elected.”

We already have a party like that. They are called the Liberals.
commented 2015-08-07 10:58:44 -0400
Don’t yuall just love politics? Lie like beds, promise your brains out, especially when you are NOT in power, and criticize your brains out. Sure, Ezra is right, May has no chance and she must parasitically latch on to a bigger fish to have any say AFTER the election. As for Trudeau, I personally loved his almost slobbering windup. They almost ended it when they thought he was finished and was either at one of those pregnant pauses or had just lost his stream of thought again. That Milkhair is one crafty devil. Yes, he is no dummy. Unlike Truedough, who has been so coddled and admired all his life that he is so familiar with his own voice’s affectation that he now almost believes that he does have a silver spoon in his mouth. Great hair though. Great hair. Not greater, just great hair.
Milkhair reminds me of that great commie, Adrienne Dick, who wisely told the public in BC that he would allow the science to dictate whether or not to have pipelines in BC or not until, in a moment of carelessness, he stated that he was against it before the science had even spoken. A moment of honestly lost him the election. No doubt Milkhair is too crafty to make that same mistake.
Can you imagine if you were, let’s say, an Engineering firm competing with 3 other firms for a contract and that the prospective customer was interviewing all 4 companies at the same time. Now compare it to a political campain. Yes, I know that its hard to compare. Because, Trudeau would never be sitting at the table in the first place. No qualifications, no experience, etc. As for May, her firm just would not be big enough to do the job. And her bid would be too high, much tooo high. As for Mulcair, he’s smart but as slippery as an eel. He’s a commie in Liberals clothing. What you see isn’t what you get when you witness a NDP campain speech. Milk would promise you one thing and build what he wants to build. Sure, it’s true, I like Harper. He has a proven track record. He would be a ‘safe’ hire. I would even settle for a Liberal like Chretien or Martin, as in guys with brains.

The Media circus is so shallow and self absorbed. They have turned an important election into a beauty contest. Kinda shows you the amount of respect that the media has for the general public..

Consequently, I may soon be announcing my own party. We are the Swineos. Our sole purpose of running will be to fight our way to the troff and hang on. We will promise anything that we perceive that will get us elected. We will bash any opponent who questions us. Our rhetoric will be so contradictory, depending on who we are trying to influence, that most of our very flexible positions will be hard to pin down. Yes, we will be the party of truth. The only snag that myself and my friends and myself are experiencing is a visual perception problem. Dang it, if we could only find a way to grow some more hair.
commented 2015-08-07 10:50:30 -0400
Like Harper pointed out during the debate, despite efforts by Mulcair and Trudeau to shut him down, although our oil economy is teetering on the edge of, and some say has alread slid into, a recession (due in large part to the war and, soon, to the Iran deal that will flood the market and drive prices further down), the rest of Canada’s economy is vibrant and growing. Our economy is not a one-trick pony despite fear mongers who want us to believe it is.

I think Trudeau did better than a lot of people expected him too. He was extremely aggressive toward Harper and, to a lesser extent, toward Mulcair, and he didn’t stumble over his words as much as he usually does. But what was that ending all about? He had it when he folded his hands, bowed his head, and stopped talking. The emcee thought he was finished and began to speak when suddenly Trudeau raised his head and began again to speak, as if he’d just remembered his lines. It gave the impression some Giuseppe is pulling his strings and scripting all he says. Which may not be far from the truth. He also made repeated distracting hand gestures, similar to how Billy Graham for decades mesmerized the masses, except Trudeau’s appeared to be aborted cat’s cradles.

May’s participation was, in my view, made memorable by her green-grows-the-merrioh glasses that it appears she chose to accessorize her party’s image. But I agree with Brian that her party’s representation in the House should disqualify her from leaders debates.

Mulcair lost ground due, in large part, to what appeared to be the NDP version of Harper’s 2006 sweater vest and plaster-cast smile campaign designed to soften his image. Mulcair spoke especially slowly, always smiling, and with such wide eyes viewers couldn’t help be distracted by a search for the toothpicks. I guess he wants to replace his “angry Tom” image with a grandfather Tom image – he repeatedly mentioned he is a grandfather as if copulating alone qualifies one to be PM – but he went overboard and created a wide-eyed, creepy-smiling wooden spectre that could haunt Canadian nightmares. I much prefer Mulcair’s biting sarcasm to this wooden doll persona.

I disagree that Harper came across as “fatherly and in charge”. Despite May’s “it’s nothing personal but Harper is a dictator” insult, our PM came across as confident enough to tolerate, as a long-time veteran incumbent, the attacks of the three PM wanna bees. He corrected the record whenever he could and simply put up with what others would surely have been provoked to anger by.

The Macleans venue and questions were biased against the PM. What made that tolerable was that the debate itself was such a snore that many have confessed they turned it off after the first fifteen minutes and tuned into the much more entertaining American debate.
commented 2015-08-07 10:38:04 -0400
I agree with Mr. Levant – I thought PM Harper carried hinself well! It was a sort of a gang up and lets’ get Harper debate by the way the other candidates acted – It is too bad more people didn’t watch this streaming debate on