August 24, 2018

#CPC18 SPECIAL: Scheer vs. Bernier, the Media Party's Rebel obsession & looking ahead to 2019

Ezra LevantRebel Commander

The Conservative Party banned The Rebel from their convention in Halifax, but of course, we're here anyway!

The big story, of course, is Maxime Bernier's resignation from the party, reportedly to start his own.

Tonight I'll explain why I think this was a bad decision, not just for the Conservatives, but for the country — especially with a federal election looming next year.

But there was another big story, at least according to the Media Party — that's right, it was about us!

Believe it or not, today the Globe & Mail reported on this earthshaking scandal:

That Hamish Marshall (who helped me start The Rebel Media in 2015, and now works for Andrew Scheer) said hello to Sheila Gunn Reid! Twice!

I'm not joking. The Globe & Mail is Canada's national newspaper of record, and they called this a "top story."

As funny and ridiculous as this "story" is, it indicates a serious problem — and not just with the Media Party's bias and weird priorities.

The Conservatives themselves are indulging in some bizarre "spin" too: I'll tell you what they said about The Rebel after this "news" went viral, and it doesn't give me much confidence in the party's ability to fight to win.

If they think they have to go into damage control after casually greeting former conservative colleagues in public, do you really think they have what it takes to go up against Trudeau and the Liberals?

Except Andrew Scheer’s worst enemy in the 2019 election will not be Justin Trudeau, possibly the laziest man in Canadian politics, whose schtick — the dancing, the selfies, the costumes – is wearing thin on Canadians.

Justin Trudeau is not Scheer’s opponent.

The Media Party is...

NEXT: Sheila Gunn Reid is with me here in Halifax, and we've got her interviews with two convention delegates and grassroots conservatives, Clinton P. Desveaux and Prem Singh. They discuss the divide that sometimes exists between ordinary members and the party establishment.

We'll have more coverage of the convention to come over the weekend.

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commented 2018-08-25 16:32:53 -0400
Perhaps the Rebel can create a separate page for those of you who think it is “fun” to waste your time ‘debating’ the trolls, “useful idiots”. To be blunt, those who choose to do so in this forum in my view are complicit in helping the trolls to meet their goal.
commented 2018-08-25 16:15:04 -0400
Agreed Ted..bury the trolls comments with facts only for the visitor, casual viewers. My opinion..it’s a must do.
commented 2018-08-25 16:12:48 -0400
Much like avoiding The Rebel, Mr. Scheer is solely to blame for this catastrophe. Social conservatives (SOCONS) and economic conservatives (Libertarians) are mostly ignored by this party. Think Tanya Granic Allen. Without her, Premier Ford would not have won. The same will hold true with Scheer who could have had a very good chance at a majority. This will be another small “c” “Progressive” Conservative Party with the emphasis on “Progressive”. No real choice here and Prime Minister Zoolander, alias Pajama Boy, will continue to destroy this country and turn it into a Communist Globalist cesspool: open borders, a UN and George Soros Puppet, massive debt, socialization of everything, removal of liberty and private property, stifling taxation, no economic growth and targeting of Christians and Jews.

Real conservatism is with Mr. Bernier, and in my case, the Christian Heritage Party.

Luigi Grimaldi.
commented 2018-08-25 16:10:57 -0400
Of course I meant, ‘Sonny’ the lying troll.

Typos, the curse of the rapid typist.

Anyway, I say again: Up yours, trolls! You are either deliberate or unintentional traitors to this country, and either way, your destructive force will be countered here, and for a lot longer than you like, unless your fellow traitosr in high places succeed in shutting down The Rebel on some phony pretext, i.e. the kind you are working non-stop here to provide them. If you ever succeed, you will only have extinguished the last major journalistic outlet of truth and freedom in Canada, something for which you no doubt will take great pride. Again I say: Up yours, you traitor scum!!!
commented 2018-08-25 16:03:50 -0400
Robert, our pal Sonny here is a classic example of leftist stupidity. Just an arrogant piece of progressive dog shit.
commented 2018-08-25 16:02:27 -0400
“How do you explain… the exodus with The Rebel viewed as a pariah if this is just all made up?” – ‘Lonny’ the lying troll

“Lie, lie, and lie again, that some may believe” – Hitler’s propagandist, Joseph Goebels

Never underestimate the power of a leftist lie, repeated ad nauseum. Goebels didn’t.

‘Sonny’, as a good lying leftist propagandist, knows this power, which is why he exercises it on this website. His aim is to isolate and destroy The Rebel. He is either being paid to do this, or he just has a passion for it, but either way, he isn’t going anywhere and we will just have to fight back or go under eventually. I won’t “go gently into that good night” by the likes of a lying leftist troll like ‘Sonny’ or any of his cohorts. The survival of Canada depends on such lies being continually refuted and the truth being continually held forth.

Some people left The Rebel after Charlottesville because they realized The Rebel would be smeared as racist by the traitorstream media and the likes of ‘Sonny’ and some of his cohorts, and that they would be tainted by those smears if they didn’t abandon The Rebel asap. Others, like David Menzies and Sheila Gunn Reid had the courage to stay and carry on the fight to save Canada despite the smears that they knew they would be tainted with. The Rebel wasn’t abandoned by some journalists, politicians etc. because The Rebel is racist. They abandoned The Rebel because lying scum were smearing it as racist, and they didn’t want to be tainted by those vicious lies and have their reputations and careers ruined by them. Those would be the lies the ‘Sonny’ etc. carry on repeating to this day. We either fight those lies or eventually they will destroy The Rebel. That is why I am not going to allow those lies free space on this website while there is still breath in me in this world. And I know others know the truth about this and will likewise fight rather than give in to the lies that vicious trolls who want this website destroyed keep posting here. Up yours, trolls!
commented 2018-08-25 16:00:47 -0400
Look at all the smack downs the liberalist globalist wingnuts around the world including Canada have received with facts…they don’t care..they are stupid and belligerent..plain and simple..they are not going to change their path in life..just like their boss trudeau..trudeau out..and if the next PM is just as stupid and belligerent..We will definitely get a smart PM after..because the swamp is starting to drain!
commented 2018-08-25 16:00:30 -0400
Calls for CIVILITY now being labeled racist by left-wing professors… yes, being civil makes you a bigot
https://www.naturalnews.com/2018-07-01-calls-for-civility-now-being-labeled-racist-by-left-wing-professors.html
“The Left is doing everything it can to stifle legitimate political debate so that there will be no other way to solve differences and disagreements over issues except through violence.
The latest example of this comes from a New York University professor who has claimed that “calls for civility” in our political discourse “are just a power play by those who feel that white supremacy is under threat.””

Trolls – We have no facts or logic, but if you don’t support us, you’re a bigot, racist, evil, greedy redneck!
commented 2018-08-25 15:56:13 -0400
Also Sonny, you are lying as to why Lilly left. You are just a lying piece of CBC type Liberal dog shit.
commented 2018-08-25 15:54:34 -0400
Sonny, it means that Lilly caved to race baiting cock roaches like you. I have never seen a racist post on this site and I have read most of them. If you can point to a racist or bigoted post then do so. There are none and you know it.
commented 2018-08-25 15:44:14 -0400
Hyacinth… that was an excellent video of the grinning monkey avoiding the issue and refusing to answer and generally that interview looks like he took a page straight out of Justin Trudeau’s playbook on how to avoid a question. Read the reviews and that tells one how long this man has been unpopular and sliding..!! You must be stupid… Case closed troll
commented 2018-08-25 15:33:41 -0400
Mad Max Bernier just tweeted out photos of Scheer at the convention, shaking hands with members of the Quebec dairy cartel. Interesting that Supply Management was last on the list of topics yesterday that members did not even get a chance to rightly debate or vote on. Coincidence much?
A party that claims to believe and proclaims on one hand free markets, doesn’t seem to bat two eyelashes in unashamedness when it comes to the untouchable dairy cartel on the other. Hypocrites. They don’t think Canadians with working brains cannot see this? And they expect to work out a trade deal with Trump? Wait ’till Trump crushes our auto-sector with tariffs for the arrogance of playing political Russian roulette with the dairy cartel.
commented 2018-08-25 15:33:07 -0400
“Seriously though, I have been here since day one of The Rebel’s launch and I love to debate – so I will see The Rebel through to the end.”

’Sonny’’s statement should put to rest any thought that just ignoring him is going to make him leave. He is either paid to be here to smear The Rebel and its supporters as bigoted racists etc., or he does it just because he enjoys it, or both. Whichever it is, it leaves us with one of two options: either acquiesce to his and the other trolls’ smears and slanders of The Rebel and its supporters, or stand up to them, counter them, and refute them. I choose the latter.

As Hyacinth’s recent post noted, the Rebel DID NOT give platform or legitimacy to the racist rally in Charlottesville. To the contrary, Ezra denounced it and even fired Faith Goldy over her attendance there, which he expressly requested her not to do. The trolls’ claims that The Rebel was deserted by Brian Lilly and others because they perceived The Rebel as racist is therefore a flat out lie, and that needs to be repeated here as long as it takes to refute that lie, as well as the lie that The Rebel and its supporters are racist. ‘Sonny’ repeats those lies here in order to keep The Rebel from growing and to keep other conservative journalists and the CPC separated from The Rebel. The only way to fight these lies is to continually confront them with the truth, i.e. that The Rebel did not send a reporter to Charlottesville, and Ezra denounced it and unambiguously denounced racism and any suggestion that The Rebel is racist or supports racism. LET THE TRUTH PREVAIL!
commented 2018-08-25 15:21:34 -0400
Ted Tadright commented 12 mins ago
Allan,

Well said. The truth must be defended in this fallen world (including on this site), or it becomes buried out of sight under an avalanche of leftist lies. I won’t permit that here and I know you won’t.

Agreed.
commented 2018-08-25 15:20:58 -0400
The monkey troll is still unable or unwilling to bring physical evidence of racism… Case closed .!!
commented 2018-08-25 15:20:09 -0400
commented 2018-08-25 15:08:22 -0400
Allan,

Well said. The truth must be defended in this fallen world (including on this site), or it becomes buried out of sight under an avalanche of leftist lies. I won’t permit that here and I know you won’t.
commented 2018-08-25 15:06:43 -0400
Ron Voss thank you for posting that link, it is spot on, a very well written article that is reporting the situation as it is.
https://canadafreepress.com/article/welcome-to-the-new-canadian-re-leaf-party
“Scheer seems to think the enemy is the independent Rebel Media, rather than the left-leaning, Liberal loving, taxpayer-subsidized Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC television), and now independent former Conservative Maxime Bernier …”

This HAS been building for some time, people just didn’t take that much notice until Bernier quit.

Old footage (Aug 19, 2017) but valid – All one needs to do is look at CBC footage to see the outright contempt they hold for Scheer from continually interrupting him to mocking him near the end of the video. Sadly it also showed what a bumbling apologetic politician Scheer is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCSfe5OKb1U

Posts from the thread:
-1 year ago
Scheer is a Liberal in disguise. He doesn’t answer one question properly. He is exactly like Trudeau without the Er, Um, Ah….Our poor country is DOOMED
- 10 months ago
Rebel media is much more honest then CBC they have more following then Dishonest CBC
- 1 year ago
Sheer should rename the PC party `` Liberal Light ``.
- 1 year ago
I doubt this bimbo has even seen any of the Rebels coverage, he’s just using this interview as an opportunity to make empty virtue signals at Rebels expense.
-1 year ago
Scheer is career politician. He’s an expert on how to NOT answer a question.
-1 year ago
Sadly, I just lost a ton of respect for Andrew Scheer. Your playing Trudeau politics sir, and your conservative base sees right thru the bs. The liberals are killing themselves laughing at this joke.

-1 year ago
Wtf “the rebel media” did NOT gave platform or legitimacy to the “unite the right” rally. Quit the contrary, Ezra levant was denounced it and even fired faith goldy partly because of that. what a lie.

-replies to this post:

-I agree that the Rebel is doing what is necessary to fix this. Scheer is too busy to watch every YouTube video.
-No. He’s too cowardly and to eager to please the Leftist MSM to stand by Rebel when they need him the most. I wonder how quickly he will sell out his conservative supporters if the Left demand him to? Oh! He already did.
-It’s good to know the Liberals have such power over the newly appointment Harper v2.0.
- Undermining his own base & expecting to get anything resembling fair treatment from the Liberals’ lapdogs in the mainstream media is an asinine strategy. We were hoping for a Canadian Trump but got a Joe Clark instead.
- when will the CBC stop taking money from my pockets to shove their garbage down my throat?
commented 2018-08-25 15:01:31 -0400
I don’t (normally) engage the trolls. I make open comments to the other people here. If it bothers you then you can always ignore the stuff. I think lack of reason and logic as well as stupidity has to be refuted for the sake of truth and justice. If nonsense is not addressed then some people will think we have no answer to it.

So I agree, don’t let them do what they do best- divert attention from the real issue by debating them. They don’t want the truth, they want to believe a lie. But the prophetic gift requires that that lie be shown for what it is.

Having said that it is possible to debate them on occasion and show the BS for what it is. Like the Mr-Babies-Are-Parasites episode. Well worth the time to do so. But if you debate on their terms you are wasting time.

I hope this does not anger the regulars.
commented 2018-08-25 14:27:05 -0400
FLATWATER.. FLATEARTH commented 2 mins ago

Please Ron… Do not invite the trolls as the needs of the many far exceed the needs of the one… You being the one.
With people having to fight for the very air that they breathe the last thing they want to do is engage a troll or be criticized by a troll on the conservative site. These people end up leaving and sometimes falling away from current news and sometimes they even give up. Please do not feed the trolls.Here’s the first test folks… Let’s not feed the monkey and see what happens.. I destroyed him when he couldn’t prove by written articles from the rebel that they were racist and left the site to regroup..
If you must make a counterstatement do not speak directly to the troll but more so in a third-party context.
commented 2018-08-25 14:24:47 -0400
Ron and Mike,

You have to realize that the trolls are going to keep ‘commenting’ here whether anyone here responds to them or not, either because they are being paid to smear The Rebel and its supporters as bigoted racists etc., or because they just enjoy doing so, or both. So don’t think they are going to stop simply because we don’t engage them. So I for one am going to continue calling them out when they do their dirty work here, and I’m sorry if that displeases anyone here, but I think it’s necessary to defend The Rebel and its supporters against these vicious creeps; otherwise casual viewers could assume we don’t have a defense against their smears and slanders, which therefore must be valid. Not on my watch.
commented 2018-08-25 14:17:58 -0400
I cancelled both of my memberships this week… One for the federal conservative party and made it known of my disappointments in Andrews Scheer. The other was the membership for the UPC in Alberta stating my disappointments with Jason Kenney and their entire party and how they got there… I said in both cancellations I was supporting other people and other parties and named them, at the federal level Max Bernier and at the provincial level Derek Fildebrandt.. they did not sound like they were too disappointed to see me go but I know the more people that do this they will be scrambling for damage control so keep the pressure on and quit the main stream parties as they have become to corrupt and self-serving to be any good to Mr. and Mrs. Joe average !!
commented 2018-08-25 14:04:57 -0400
With respect to Bernier’s request for suggestions for the new party’s name, Judi McLeod with Canada Free Press has suggested, “Maybe he should call it the Party of Canadian ‘Re-Leaf”:
https://canadafreepress.com/article/welcome-to-the-new-canadian-re-leaf-party.

McLeod notes:
“Poor Canadian Conservative Leader Andrew Scheer doesn’t seem to get who the real enemy is.
Scheer seems to think the enemy is the independent Rebel Media, rather than the left-leaning, Liberal loving, taxpayer-subsidized Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (CBC television) [as Ezra suggested above], and now independent former Conservative Maxime Bernier who launched his own party right during the Conservative Convention in Halifax on Thursday………………..
It was more frustrating than sad that the Conservatives were heading into a federal election fighting Rebel Media and each other.
Countless Canadians see the independent, upstart Rebel Media as the only alternative to the Liberal supporting CBC.
That seemed to make no difference to the largely ineffective Andrew Scheer.
Scores of Canadian Conservatives will vote for Bernier’s new independent party.”
commented 2018-08-25 13:48:36 -0400
Overall, I’m quite disappointed in The Rebels REPORTING on The Convention, Bernier’s future attempts to clean the swamp in the CPC, plus the weak attitude of the working part of the Party. Not much was said about these important things, except that Bernier was half the problem. I think that he is the SOLUTION.
Here is what the Conservatives Chief Strategist John Capolnanico said, The Conservative Party is open to all Conservatives and their Policies and their ideas. Interpreted that means, if you are open to everything and everyone, YOU STAND FOR NOTHING. Sounds just like the " sitting on the wall Scheer."

As good as they are, Ezra and Sheila were reporting on yesterdays news, always one day behind, sometimes two. Its not their fault, if you are not invited to the party it is difficult to report on it.

Also, the comments section here is out of control (as some have pointed out). It isn’t too fact-finding to have Trolls and Rebels calling each other Dummies at least 50 times on one story. The Trolls are still talking about the Faith Goldy incident last year with the White Supremacists. Allan quit the Rebel two months ago, saying he can’t say anything without the Trolls attacking his comments; now he is back and does what they want by attacking them. If the Trolls aren’t around, some people even invite their comments.

I don’t mind the Trolls (in fact I enjoy the comments of the one that swears because he or she makes it plain where they stand) We simply can’t let them take over or change the subject.
The problem would be solved if we only answered their smart comments, otherwise pretend that they are not here.
commented 2018-08-25 13:46:10 -0400
Very disappointed to read Stephen Harper’s position on Bernier’s departure. The conservative party lead by Scheer is liberal-lite. This schism will ensure a win for Trudeau, but what does it matter when the so called alternative is essentially the same? Shame on Scheer for banning The Rebel! I guess there is no place in the present Conservative Party for people like me. I am a long time paid member but wont be paying anymore. Am looking at what Bernier’s new party has to offer.
commented 2018-08-25 13:28:57 -0400
Keith, on one hand I dread another Trudeau term. On the other hand I dread Andrew Scheer. He has been such a massive disappointment. A true gutless wonder who has shown far left tendencies.
commented 2018-08-25 13:19:27 -0400
Everybody is assuming that there will be another election. Trudeau could easily create a situation that would involve instigating the Emergency Measures Act and he could stall an election for at least another year. All he has to do is talk with his migrant friends and I am sure that they would be happy to help out.
In fact he was just meeting with his tame $1m Terrorist friend, a guided tour of the Parliament Building no less……..Or something sinister?
commented 2018-08-25 13:09:58 -0400
Canadians are always 10 yrs behind US,,,POLITICALLY,,,so four more yrs of the groper and we will be so pissed at them we may be willing to elect a REAL conservative.
commented 2018-08-25 13:03:04 -0400
Andrew Sheer didnt embrace Maxim because he isnt really a conservative. Unfortunately the politically correct and political majors of the party went with the tried and true, a pretty boy they can pull the strings of. I’m sure the same strings the groper has attached to his jaw are attached to Sheers mouth.