January 10, 2018

PROOF: Recycling is a scam — These Canadian cities throw it into landfills

Ezra LevantRebel Commander


Environmentalism is a step backwards in terms of civilization and culture. Isn't part of social progress that we spend less time — and less mental energy — dealing with gross things, like garbage?

Which brings us to the news of the day:

Calgary has 5,000 tonnes of recyclables and no one to take them

They used to ship it to China. (How on earth did that make sense, environmentally or economically?)

But now China is banning it. (As if they were really "recycling" it when it got there...)

So we’re still going through all the make-believe, all recycling bins and extra garbage trucks — and it’s just going to the dump with the regular trash? 

Of course we are — because it was never about saving the earth. It was about looking cool — and about whoever got the contract for those extra garbage trucks, and the six-figure government jobs driving them.

And it's not just a problem in Calgary, either...

WATCH to find out if your city is in the same predicament.

(Tonight I'll also explain why the only item that actually makes sense to recycle is metal.)

So next time you see one of those four- or five-compartment bins?

Just throw your trash in whichever one.

It’s all going to the same place...

NEXT: Many Muslims want a "national day against Islamophobia" each January 29, the date of the Quebec mosque shooting.

Quebec broadcaster Eric Duhaime comes on to talk about this hot topic.

THEN: President Trump held a live meeting with lawmakers about immigration, but opinions are mixed:

Was it a disaster or a triumph?

Our own John Cardillo joins me to discuss Trump's latest bold move.

FINALLY: Your messages to me!

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commented 2018-01-14 23:56:42 -0500
Recycling: Well believe it or not I do have an interest in recycling. But I don’t know what is done with the mountain of plastic that is collected. Burnt or land fill, also what happens to all the Tires that are recycled, how many echo rubber mats can you sell. Paper and Cardboard, Medal, Glass I can see being recycled. This green environmental movement is out of control when the Mayor of Vancouver (Mayor Moonbeam) said he what’s Vancouver to be the greenest city in the world and wants to ban Natural Gas in Vancouver. You know interesting observation I have seen. Here in B.C. you buy a 4 liter plastic jug of milk-no echo fee. Buy a 4 liter plastic jug of orange juice you pay an echo fee (go figure).
commented 2018-01-12 23:13:57 -0500
I’d be really curious to hear why Edward says that. Our government is a bit questionable, but Canadians, even some of the ’ un enlightened’ are basically good people. What’s on your mind Edward?
commented 2018-01-11 20:33:51 -0500
Wow Victor Edwards, what a weird generalization. Paint with broad brushstrokes much?
commented 2018-01-11 19:15:46 -0500
Recycling is like the baptismal book of the climate change bible , like if you faithfully recycle, you go to garbage heaven, so if the recycling part is a lie then the religion is fake
commented 2018-01-11 19:15:46 -0500
Recycling is like the baptismal book of the climate change bible , like if you faithfully recycle, you go to garbage heaven, so if the recycling part is a lie then the religion is fake
commented 2018-01-11 17:48:13 -0500
Canadians are all criminals anyway. I wouldn’t expect anything more from them.
commented 2018-01-11 17:06:10 -0500
I dont believe the plastics even make it to china probably dumped at sea.
commented 2018-01-11 15:20:37 -0500
I don’t know too much about incinerating plastics, (including PVC’s) except that Hawaii does it and isn’t 100% confident they aren’t still pumping some dioxins into the air. Also PVC has a chemical composition which makes it more heat resistant than other plastics. It is still a problem waiting for an effective solution., like better (different) plastics and better incinerators. There are environmental problems the left could busy themselves with in a constructive fashion which wouldn’t hose people and wouldn’t shut down industries. The oil patch is not the threat. City run composting is not a solution.
commented 2018-01-11 15:04:50 -0500
" I have have witnessed recycling operations in China. " Money For Nothing, absolutely, China has huge recycling outfits.
However they also put the most garbage, particularly plastics into the ocean of any country on the planet. Any environmental effort in China is minimal compared to their pollution output. There waterway and air pollution is off the charts as I am sure you must know if you have been there.

Deborah in an urban setting composting is a problem because it isn’t and can’t be done properly with any regularity. It attracts vermin and animals and smells like an outhouse if left to air or is too wet. Anything rotting is going to stink. Your daughter is wise to have her own that she can manage herself.
commented 2018-01-11 12:59:03 -0500
Ezra, my daughter told me that since adding the composting bins, the city of Calgary is only picking up the residential trash twice per month now, so service is worse, and they’ve increased the costs too. And the slop in the composting bins freezes in the winter, and thaws during Chinooks, so they attract flies and other animals when the weather is nice. My daughter is going to use her own composting bin that she can manage without the city sticking their nose in. Not to mention seeing those plastic bins all the time is unsightly! I live in a condo, and now they have those composite bins taking up parking space. The whole idea is ridiculous, and now we know its just another environmental scam being played to line the pockets of the shysters.
commented 2018-01-11 12:47:11 -0500
I live east of Edmonton, the convoy of City of Edmonton garbage trucks to the dump at Ryley is endless, oh and all the gravel trucks on the road looking un garbage truckish, are also loaded with garbage. The sham that is the City mayor and council have for years, lied about recycling, garbage and being green, they have even patted themselves on the back and claimed in no time we will be selling our wonderful garbage handling technology all over the world, false!
We are now stuck with fake power companies, fake garbage companies, fake health care, all pretend entities which are simply designed to benefit the lefts friends who would never be able to operate a business in the real world. The biggest threat to our environment are environmentalists not normal people!
commented 2018-01-11 12:46:24 -0500
I live east of Edmonton, the convoy of City of Edmonton garbage trucks to the dump at Ryley is endless, oh and all the gravel trucks on the road looking un garbage truckish, are also loaded with garbage. The sham that is the City mayor and council have for years, lied about recycling, garbage and being green, they have even patted themselves on the back and claimed in no time we will be selling our wonderful garbage handling technology all over the world, false!
We are now stuck with fake power companies, fake garbage companies, fake health care, all pretend entities which are simply designed to benefit the lefts friends who would never be able to operate a business in the real world. The biggest threat to our environment are environmentalists not normal people!
commented 2018-01-11 12:45:05 -0500
I live east of Edmonton, the convoy of City of Edmonton garbage trucks to the dump at Ryley is endless, oh and all the gravel trucks on the road looking un garbage truckish, are also loaded with garbage. The sham that is the City mayor and council have for years, lied about recycling, garbage and being green, they have even patted themselves on the back and claimed in no time we will be selling our wonderful garbage handling technology all over the world, false!
We are now stuck with fake power companies, fake garbage companies, fake health care, all pretend entities which are simply designed to benefit the lefts friends who would never be able to operate a business in the real world. The biggest threat to our environment are environmentalists not normal people!
commented 2018-01-11 12:41:57 -0500
- Some metals & some types of high quality paper are the only things that are actually worth recycling. Leftists have a scarcity mentality. All resources are limited & running out & they need the government to step in & decide who can use what. It’s a big part of their mindset & whenever they run things they make it happen. Venezuela sits on one of the worlds’ largest oil reserves & they’re broke & have a gas shortage.

- I can’t help but think that if that Quebec mosque attack was actually about Islamophobia the Trudeau Liberals & their media party cronies would be very up front about the details of the attack. The want to use it to push their censorship laws & establish a “day against Islamophobia” while keeping the details secret. This entire thing stinks.

- Trump is actually being transparent instead of talking about transparency & then holding meetings behind closed doors? No wonder the left thinks he’s crazy. Seeing how Trump has operated to this point I wouldn’t be willing to draw conclusions about where he’s going on DACA at this point.

- Wynne will claim that she created 175 jobs by hiring those minimum wage enforcement cops. The 60,000 or so jobs lost due to the minimum wage hike will be blamed on greedy corporations. It’s the Liberal mindset.
commented 2018-01-11 11:29:10 -0500
When it comes to recycling, it is clearly less about the environment than it is about an overreaching government that wants to control the citizenry. “You can’t buy this, you can’t eat that, you can’t drive an F150. Think about the environment.” A good book on the topic is, “Green Tyranny”.

That said, recycling items like aluminum beverage cans make a great deal of sense since aluminum and copper are among the most recyclable metals in the world. I was told that it takes roughly 5% of the energy to recycle aluminum compared to obtaining it from the mineral bauxite. From a purely economical and practical point of view, I will gladly recycle my handful of aluminum beverage cans (worth about 75¢/lb currently).

Shall we then ask the obvious and natural questions (albeit rhetorical since we already know the answer, Mr. Bob Rae)? “Why is there a 10¢ deposit on beer cans, in Ontario, but no deposit on soda cans? Is Coca Cola healthier than beer? Why is your municipality the expert when it comes to recycling soda cans but not beer cans (identical can, by the way)? The municipality will pick the soda cans up at the curb but I am expected to take my beer cans back to the Beer Store. Why does that make environmental sense?”

As for plastics and other garbage, modern incinerators are a far cry better than an open pit fire or a burn barrel and are used in jurisdictions that are farther along the road to Green Hell than we are.

Now let’s talk waste water treatment plants. The “sludge” is anaerobically digested into bio-gas and costs municipalities (aka, taxpayers) a metric tonne of money for a few dollars worth of burnable methane. Some WWTPs will dispose of the digested sludge into landfill sites. How many people are aware of that, by the way? Others will then sell the dried and digested byproduct for fertilizer. Think about that when you buy organic products considering that people flush medication down the drain.

Just burn the damn stuff and use the ash for soil enrichment. The cost of an incinerator (and natural gas required to operate it) is much less than the infrastructure for recovering the biogas (much of which gets flared off, by the way).
commented 2018-01-11 09:40:38 -0500
Oh, look, it turns out that excess plastic is the big problem here, including plastic bags?

Oh, look, didn’t the Rebel go off on Montreal’s bag ban as “virtue signaling”, rather than addressing what is actually a problem ?

Incidentally, things like metals and some papers are still recyclable, and you’re paying civil servant wages to the people that pick through the recycling and re-separate the stuff you just tossed into any bin, whether or not some of it goes to the landfill. (some always has, largely because of such poor compliance with bin use).
commented 2018-01-11 09:13:09 -0500
You may have done it now Ezra!
Given how utterly insane and delusional the left has become, in destroying their ‘environmenmental’ shiboleth with the facts, as you have done, may ‘cause’ one or some of the radical-tree-hugging-terrorist cohort to come after you. Remember the left are generally cowards, so it won’t be a frontal assault…and for the left any depraved, heinous perversion is OK because for the left the end always befits the means…
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I’m reposting a previous comment:
- We should make Jan. 29 a national day of remembrance and action on ISLAMOFASCISM, and Jan 30 a day of remembrance and action on jihadi/globalist enablers and other traitors and criminal scum!
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In regard to Donald Trump’s apparently successful tactic against Stumpy the Rocket Boy, didn’t they used to call that ‘gunboat diplomacy’?
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commented 2018-01-11 05:06:33 -0500
Thanks Money For Nothing:- “Recycling itself doesn’t save energy or reduce the environmental footprint when compared to landfilling, especially in Calgary where the climate is dry and land plentiful, but it does instill a sense of environmentalism in people and companies especially with water.”… Sooo, if it DOESN’T reduce the “environmental footprint”, this is only a multi-million dollar exercise in “feel good”…And the parameters of that “feel good exercise” are set by WHO???
commented 2018-01-11 03:39:10 -0500
Levants suggestion that Calgary’s tender process is corrupt without offering evidence reflects poor fact checking. It isn’t. YYC has a transparent arms length tender process. Recycle trucks replace garbage trucks, not work along side them. Same with Levant allegation that the left is to blame for recycling. Fact is, recycling in Alberta started in it’s conservative rural heartland and years later spread to urban centers.

In the 1970’s when east coast US cities ran out of landfill space, and ocean dumping became unfashionable, composting reduced landfill volume by 2/3. Composting transitioned into recycling that spread westward. Recycling itself doesn’t save energy or reduce the environmental footprint when compared to landfilling, especially in Calgary where the climate is dry and land plentiful, but it does instill a sense of environmentalism in people and companies especially with water. Look at the Great Lakes. Over the decades the oil industry has reduced it’s environmental footprint significantly, in line with public, landowner and community expectations. I see cruise lines now achieve near zero environmental impact, and I feel good about patronizing them. Cargo ships reduce fuel use by 40%, simply by slowing down a bit. Old Dutch has recently redirected 90% of total waste from their Calgary plant to hog food and recyclables.

Backhaul rates to China are roughly 25% of normal rates making recyclables an economic substitute, and the stuff we buy cheaper. An exploding Chinese middle class means garbage is becoming a bigger problem, and I expect central planners want more of their garbage to transition into recyclables. Contrary to Levants assertion, I have have witnessed recycling operations in China.

Moving forward, I expect more Canadian recycling will be composted versus exported.

Recycling is energy neutral at best, but it spawns other positives. Positives that conservatives must embrace to offset the left’s enviro insanity.
commented 2018-01-11 02:41:22 -0500
Are we going to see Eric do videos here at the rebel again? I really enjoyed his work.
commented 2018-01-11 02:37:23 -0500
Live interview with vice president pence where he talks about the wall, rocket man, daca and the embassy in Jerusalem. Trump knows the DACA program is one of Obama’s prize accomplishments and the demoncrats will latch onto that and support funding for the wall. Sounds to me like Trump has planned his policies very well and knows how to overcome problems and get the opposition on his side to get this stuff done. The media is going to be quiet on all this talk about Trump having mental problems so they will have to find something different to chirp about.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/10/pence-vows-maximum-pressure-on-north-korea-ahead-olympics-trip.html
commented 2018-01-11 02:26:39 -0500
Bravo Zulu… High temperature incineration does indeed work for producing power… Look no further than Alexandria, Virginia… It s a common practice in Japan which just doesn’t have the landmass for landfills, and politically correct Sweden and Denmark do the same… It seems that only in North America do we have the luxury of playing the “recycling game”… NDP Sucks… You’re right – makes great decking material and does not go “green” like pressure treated lumber after a few years…
commented 2018-01-11 02:24:04 -0500
What does it say when the government wants to use the anniversary of this crime to further their agenda without waiting for the outcome of the investigation and trial of the Quebec shooting? It makes it look like they are trying to direct the outcome to further their misguided Islamophobia blasphemy law.
Glad we have Eric keeping us posted and asking the right questions.
commented 2018-01-11 02:18:15 -0500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0juP_SFI1
full meeting
41:10
especially 45:00 on
“Without the wall you cannot have border security.”
Right at the end, from reporter as they are being asked to leave, “Is there any agreement without the wall?”
Trump,“No”
Sounds like he’s building the wall to me. Sounds like a lot of details are yet to be negotiated.
Not bad if you ask me.
MSM are making out like his body language means he is insecure, all the arm crossing and all. Nothing could be further from the truth. It’s unshakable resolve. Trump is not coming off like the mentally unstable old guy the media has been trying to paint him as. This was a smart move on Trump’s part having media in on a good part of the meeting. I think everything is as it should be.
Sly like a fox.
commented 2018-01-11 01:14:51 -0500
Confusing what to do with the multiple 5-6 recycling bins. One of the food courts in a Shopping Center in Calgary, hires people to do the sorting for you, as Ezra says so it goes to the dump.
commented 2018-01-11 01:14:29 -0500
Plastic bags can be converted to composite lumber which is very hard, durable and expensive to buy. Probably the most common use is outdoor decking material and this plastic lumber is normally fastened using metal clips. I seriously doubt there is a supply problem and demand is probably not that high due to cost.
commented 2018-01-11 00:59:30 -0500
I try not to buy too much plastic and I reuse, re-purpose and re-gift as much as I can just because I hate having to drive and pay at the dump.

China dumps more plastic into the ocean than any other country. What on earth were we doing sending ours to them? I do not know what the solution is for plastics. Definitely bad for oceans and aquatic life.

I don’t live in the city so I compost. If I didn’t compost I wouldn’t be able to amend my nasty topsoil for free. If you do it right composting has no odour.

I wonder how many municipalities will continue the farse, and end up chucking most of what we recycle into the landfill?
commented 2018-01-10 23:43:28 -0500
Hey Keith,

Don’t forget, large coastal cities such as New York have been dumping their garbage in the ocean for decades. Cities around the world do the same thing. It’s not the plastic bags that wind up there magically, it’s the governments doing it. You can’t blame the bags, blame the humans dumping in the ocean…. capish…
commented 2018-01-10 22:50:18 -0500
Ezra, Please stop the auto start video’s, NOW.
To all who agree, COPY PASTE AND POST.
commented 2018-01-10 21:45:55 -0500
Fraser I thought that was called recycling