July 06, 2017

How pro-lifers get pushed out of the public square (Guest host: Sheila Gunn Reid)

Faith GoldyArchive

Long before we were being lectured by blue haired “otherkin” about what kinds of made up words they want us to use to refer to them, and long before we ever heard the words “safe spaces” to describe a hole to hide soft brains from hard ideas, there was a war being waged on free speech that most of us didn’t even know was happening. 

The truth is, every censorship tactic we push back against today was tested for efficacy against the pro-life movement.

Tonight, I’m joined by pro-life student activist, Amberlee Nichol, who explains how she ended up embroiled in a lawsuit with the University of Alberta after her group, UAlberta Pro-life were the victims of left wing vandals.

In our public spaces, at the behest of our local governments and on our university campuses, the pro-life movement has always been the canary in the coal mine of free speech.

It’s not enough just to say,”I’m not pro-life so it doesn’t matter.”

The censors will come for you next. They’re just perfecting their techniques first on someone else.

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commented 2017-07-13 21:42:52 -0400
To voice your displeasure
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commented 2017-07-13 21:39:33 -0400
I sent an email to northlands regarding communist ideology against Edmonton pro life and they replied the society had no objections to their decision. I knew they were lying
commented 2017-07-09 16:17:41 -0400
Gotta agree with Terry Macleod.
Waste of space.
commented 2017-07-09 16:15:30 -0400
“It’s an ethical or philosophical question, not a scientific one,” says someone expressing his opinion-ignoring the scientific one. Look up ‘post modernists’ and tell me who’s face you see.
OMGawd! its our Andrew!
commented 2017-07-08 18:51:27 -0400
|Drew Wakariuk commented 20 hours ago
Andrew Stephenson is fine with women being jailed for speaking though, that is not her body , herchoice all of a sudden. And how about women pay for it themselves if it is only their decision. "

What, you’re referring to that activist who was harassing clients at a clinic, and refused to obey her probation on the trespassing charges?
commented 2017-07-07 22:29:50 -0400
City of Governmonton, er Edmonton, it seems has devolved into one of Canada’s most leftist/Marxist steeped cities along with the ilk of Toronto, Vancouver etc. You can lock in Edmonton ridings for NDP seats come 2019 regardless how lousy they perform at governing
commented 2017-07-07 22:24:58 -0400
Andrew Stephenson is fine with women being jailed for speaking though, that is not her body , her choice all of a sudden. And how about women pay for it themselves if it is only their decision.
commented 2017-07-07 22:23:29 -0400
Andrew Stephenson then explain late term where the baby is out of the body and not cared for. Please tell me why that applies when her body is no longer involved? Share your wisdom with us please. And why can i not protect my body if that is such a sacred thing to the courts? And they would not be pregnant if they did not have sex, how about some responsibility m or are men the only ones held accountable therefore promoting sexism and a double standard.
commented 2017-07-07 15:16:48 -0400
- The left have figured out that they can’t win arguments. Their policies don’t hold up to scrutiny, so they censor instead. Conservatives need to get involved in politics at all levels – I know we actually have lives & jobs & such but the West is being stolen & if we don’t wake up now it’ll be gone. Universities are about indoctrination, not education – the less they offer of value the higher the cost.
commented 2017-07-07 13:54:46 -0400
It’s an ethical or philosophical question, not a scientific one, so if you’re holding out for data either way, you’re going to be waiting a long time. It’s a matter of individual opinion as to what’s more important.

In the eyes of the law, the mother is given full rights of self determination to her own body. The State cannot infringe on that, for example by forcing her to involuntarily host a fetus to term. If you choose to believe that the fetus is important, that’s your prerogative, but the government cannot make that choice for you. And, as noted above, that choice is yours alone to make based on what you feel is ethically or philosophically important.

TLDR, You can believe whatever you want as to who takes precedent, but you can’t force others to follow those same beliefs.
commented 2017-07-07 09:57:11 -0400
Andrew said, "The rights of the mother supercede that of the fetus. "

Yes I know you keep projectile vomiting that tire bull crap over and over again. Heard it once from you baby murderers, heard it a thousand times.

What makes the mother’s life greater or more valuable than the baby’s life?

To rephrase my question, by what scientific data/process do you make the determination that the mother’s life is more valuable than the baby’s life?
commented 2017-07-07 09:07:35 -0400
THANKS SHEILA , it’s a up hill battle

OUR CRIMEMINISTER , is aborting Canada , 150 years after we were born !!!!!!!!!!!!
commented 2017-07-07 08:36:49 -0400
Andrew Stephenson, still didn’t answer my question. Go back to my last paragraph!
I’m going offline for a few days…take your time explaining what is so “excellent”, your words!
commented 2017-07-07 02:01:44 -0400
To Andrew these aren’t little people. They’re just a lump of flesh. Don’t waste your time on him.
commented 2017-07-07 01:50:28 -0400
“Jan G commented 1 hour ago
I no longer refer to people as pro-choice; they are pro-abortion. Not all parties involved have a choice in the decision…..the baby. "

Pro having that option, perhaps. Just because you support abortion, doesn’t mean you will have one.

“Peter Netterville commented 3 hours ago
“The rights of the babies IS the absolute crux, the very heart, of the debate. "
The rights of the mother supercede that of the fetus. Again, that’s why pro-lifers have to resort to shock tactics, because they won’t win the competing rights front. My body belongs to me and me alone.

TAMMIE PUTINSKI-ZANDBELT commented 1 month ago
Andrew Stephenson, I have been reading your posts for sometime now on this topic.
My take away is that you are very lucky your mother allowed you to remain in her womb at every stage of your prenatal development through live birth. If she had doubts or felt inconvenienced, she would have been legally permitted to terminate your existence…at any point! "

Possibly so, but if she hadn’t, I wouldn’t have known the difference anyway.
commented 2017-07-07 00:49:37 -0400
I no longer refer to people as pro-choice; they are pro-abortion. Not all parties involved have a choice in the decision…..the baby.
commented 2017-07-07 00:09:16 -0400
Sheila your reference to “The censors will come for you next” brings to mind the oft-cited quote by Martin Niemoller, a prominent Protestant pastor who emerged as an outspoken public foe of Adolf Hitler and spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in concentration camps:
“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

That includes the “useful idiots”, the trolls that post here as well.
commented 2017-07-06 23:14:02 -0400
Peter, I agree with your post.
There are most definitely consequences.
commented 2017-07-06 22:58:40 -0400
Tammie said, " … facts are irrelevant!"

I would suggest that intelligence and any sort of a moral center to them are also irrelevant.

They will pay for it eventually even if they blindly blunder on thinking there is no consequence to their words and actions. There is.
commented 2017-07-06 22:45:46 -0400
Carole Masse, you’re right, it is pure theft!
commented 2017-07-06 22:44:11 -0400
Peter Netterville, Andrew and company post callous statements/declarations, and, give themselves permission to distance themselves from the reality of what is taking place during an abortion; facts are irrelevant!
commented 2017-07-06 22:42:08 -0400
Ms. G-R,

Good show. I very much appreciate your interview style: ask a clear, concise question and let the guest answer at length.
commented 2017-07-06 22:39:02 -0400
Andrew Stephenson,

You never answered my question to your post on the Menzie’s story. Did you finally get lucky under that date site, or are you still wishing?
commented 2017-07-06 22:37:43 -0400
The rioters are far-left socialists, they love this shit.
commented 2017-07-06 22:36:18 -0400
Dear Tammie, you are not alone, I am mad out of my mind. TruDope is not the PM of Canada, he’s simply using OUR money for the rest of the globe. When he talks equality, he means we are too rich and he’s re-distributing our wealth somthat everybody on the planet is equally poor. This is pure theft.
commented 2017-07-06 22:33:36 -0400
I cannot believe there is even a debate on if it is okay to tear the limbs off of a living baby.

Even the need to say that out loud is beyond belief.

There are a lot of very morally sick people out there, pro-choicers are at the top of that list.
commented 2017-07-06 22:29:20 -0400
No, Andrew, the very center of the debate is the tearing apart the little bodies of those babies while they live.

The rights of the babies IS the absolute crux, the very heart, of the debate.

All the rest of the issues are a smoke screen generated by the pro-tear-babies-apart, the pro murder babies crowd, like you for instance.
commented 2017-07-06 22:24:56 -0400
With any luck, the rioters in Hamburg will disrupt Trudeau from speaking any further!
Another 100 million dollars vanishes from our coffers… I’m seething right now!