May 19, 2016

Liberal Party’s electoral reform is undemocratic, and only they will benefit

Faith GoldyArchive

Tonight, I give you talking points to get people passionate about the two least sexy words in the English language: electoral reform. The Liberal Party's approach to democratizing our system is undemocratic and not the reform we need. It's meant to benefit the Liberal Party alone.

Then, the man behind the motion: Conservative Party firearms activist Richard Wakefield joins us to discuss proposed changes to the CPC's firearm policy at the party's convention in Vancouver next week. Hint: it's a step in the right direction!

Plus: We've got your week's top headlines and "Quote of Honour."

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commented 2016-05-20 01:23:20 -0400
You are free to believe what you want since we live in a free country Drew but we have had social equality since WW2 when there were social programs which were wanted by the new PC party at the time, Liberals, CCF and Social Credit. All supported the New Deal.

As for the modern era, anything that removes the social contract is not supported by the Conservatives, Liberals, NDP and most minor parties except for probably just the Libertarian party which believes in voluntaryism which means somehow that private donations are going to fix poverty which has never worked. Also with nations with moderate populations like ours it would be impossible.

Which is why the social housing projects supported by the Joe Clark PCs in the late 70’s and under Trudeau they were the badge of Canada to ensure poverty was reduced to the point of having no one on the streets. That was when we had a moderate welfare state but it has reduced immensely since 1984 and in particular after 1995 by Martin.

The fact is small businesses had more freedom prior to free trade and had more ability grow because of few corporations and I would say anti-globalism is better than the system we have now. My parents even suggest that jobs were plenty back then with less education necessary which is truthful. You just needed high school and just a certificate or diploma. Now you need two incomes to raise a family when back during the Trudeau years you only needed one income according to my parents. Which proves anti-globalist times were better which is a nationalist and protectionist state and a mixed economy with no free trade.
commented 2016-05-20 01:07:35 -0400
John S you are spouting your usual hogwash. Social equality is not possible and it is not what the libertarian left wants. During the last election i asked one of the libertarian party candidates about personal responsibility and was never responded to, they did not like the question. The conservatives did tons of positive things for Canada, only an idiot would say otherwise, we gained more choice and personal freedom and lower taxes from them. That is what TRUE FREEDOM is made of.
commented 2016-05-20 00:42:59 -0400
If the government adopts the Australian Representatives method of voting, it will benefit all of Canada. We would have the exact same constituencies, but with the so-called instant run-off system of voting & vote counting.

This method would ensure that only centrists, regardless of party, would win the largest number of seats. Those of the far right and far left would have the most to lose. The long-dead Reform Party would never be able to run again, and ultra-conservatives would be upset that their views would be more ostrisized.

We should try the electoral reform for at least two or three elections
commented 2016-05-20 00:29:46 -0400
Excellent job Faith! Your last point in the vid is by far the most salient/prescient!!!

Ultimately, in any democratic system, the people get what they deserve.

If the people are complacent, they will lose their freedom.

Liberty is something that must be fought for every minute of every day.
commented 2016-05-20 00:29:28 -0400
The lack of spending by consumers and businesses leaving is lack of consumer spending because we are a consumer-based economy. Industries depend on it.

Which is why I believe in nationalism and protectionism. I believe that we need anti-globalist policies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-globalization_movement

This is what I support which is nationalism meaning fair trade, sustainable development, anti-corporatism and democratic representation. I am sorry you do not know ideology Daryl Herman.

This is what nationalists are against which is “market fundamentalism”, “turbo-capitalism”, and “casino capitalism”.

All these quotes and information related can be found on Wikipedia on the link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-globalization_movement

This is the type of nationalism I support which is civic nationalism and the link is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civic_nationalism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism#Civic_nationalism
commented 2016-05-20 00:23:18 -0400
This is the definition of liberalism or modern-day liberalism or social liberalism which is “social liberalism is a political ideology that seeks to find a balance between individual liberty and social justice.”

Sounds to me that you don’t know anything about ideology Daryl Herman and that makes you look stupid!
commented 2016-05-20 00:21:08 -0400
We are a consumer-based economy and many Canadians do not have enough money to spend much like the United States.

And yes an economy is a mixture of industries, business, corporations and other parts of the economy. You cannot escape that. The fact is we are globalist and for globalization because we have kept NAFTA and all of the trade agreements that have come after. That is the very definition of capitalist and the use of markets, the profit motive and the law of exchange and value.

Socialism means workers owning the means of production from the definition as its real definition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

“Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production”. It is not my fault you don’t know that Daryl Herman. I mean most people should know this even though it is common knowledge.
commented 2016-05-20 00:08:02 -0400
@ John Siciliano commented 25 mins ago
The fact is liberals are for capitalism and …

Not sure where you get all your “knowledgeable” information – but you are way off base!! The Lieberals are Socialists thru & thru – add in a good dose of Marxism and that is the Lieberal party of Canada! If the libtard Lieberals are so capitalist – answer me this Why the fuck are so many Canadians out of work and our Globalist investors have left??
Get your head out of your ass and learn facts!! …“speak words without understanding” – WHY you arrogant little phucktard! Oh and move the hell out of Canada!! Syria – I heard was way down on their population.
commented 2016-05-19 23:35:11 -0400
The fact is liberals are for capitalism and for corporate capitalism which is the system we have, so as far as I know and many on her should know corporate capitalism means globalism and globalization, attracting business through tax cuts, agreeing with free which is in place and has not been changed and is a system of very low interest rates. These have remained unchanged since Harper and this proves we are under the same economic policy.

Liberals also agree very much with Keynesianism other than the Conservatives who have shown they are for it in rare occasions. This all proves that the hosts lie on Rebel and that the Liberals are slightly to the left of the Tories. A real socialist would nationalize the banks, be for massive social programs and unionization, start the process of banning certain private property and would nationalize key industries. Socialists would also be for democratizing key industries and protectionism and ending free trade. I see none of that by the Liberals and no calls of that by the NDP.
commented 2016-05-19 23:28:58 -0400
Marxism is an ideology of socialism when socialism means workers owning the means of production and marxism is an analysis of capitalism and most socialists are against marxism. Many on here do not know what left-libertarianism is, which means stressing both individual freedom and social equality.

It can be found on Google and it shows how right wingers do not understand variants of ideology. They speak words without understanding what they mean which spells regurgitation.
commented 2016-05-19 23:18:14 -0400
Only morons would say liberals are marxist. Get a better grip on reality. You cons see things only in black and white. What nonsense.
commented 2016-05-19 22:57:18 -0400
Is there not some written law that, No Government may make changes that a future Government will not be able to undo.
Surly rigging the voting system so that no other party can win, is doing the same thing.

The fact that Trudeau ran as a Liberal and is, in fact, a Marxist, means that he won the Election using false information. A new Election should be called.
commented 2016-05-19 22:50:30 -0400
John, have you not been aware that the purpose of this site from its very inception 15 months ago was to present a conservative (small c) point of view? Have you been unaware that most of the presenters and bloggers illustrate that? There are so many other places to go for the other side of what you’ll see here. Perhaps you might consider checking some of them out if the thoughts and ideas here do not meet your expectations.
commented 2016-05-19 22:15:30 -0400
Well as a civic nationalist I agree with proportional representation to help smaller parties. You think I care about mainstream ideologies. I believe that the Conservative party had to go and they were not positive in the House of Commons. What Canada needs is national sovereignty and an end to all the wars and limiting immigration. The Canadian Action party would also do something about Canada’s debt, and it would actually do something about these important issues rather than just talk. I am not beholden to mainstream parties and I do not make it my life to worship them as the be all and end all of everything. I am open-minded rather than most Canadians that have to vote like their parents and grandparents did. That is why I want changes to how we elect people, and why I think the Liberals have to be as open and transparent as possible. The fact is no party should have control solely over changes to our electoral system. I will agree with you on that. What I do not agree with is how the Conservative party is behaving on this matter when they should try to engage and try to be part of the process rather than solely against it. I can understand why they would want to do it being the official opposition but they have nothing reasonable to counter with. They seem like a party with no ideas.

They also fail to take into account that the Liberals ran on this matter in the election, and the Conservatives as usual do not wish for more Canadians to take part in the electoral process, which I fully support. I want more Canadians to be voting, so I support mandatory voting. I want proportional representation, banning of attack ads, no money in politics and an end to MP expense accounts. I also want any party to be able to win an election, including the near 20 minor parties in Canada. It is not a surprise that I believe in a meritocracy, meaning any person should be able to win in a riding based on their merits alone. It is the best way to have full control and true free and fair elections which the mainstream parties talk about and they know the system is blatantly and obviously unfair!
commented 2016-05-19 21:59:33 -0400
John Siciliano, let’s remember that 61% of Canadians did not vote Liberal. It’s pretty disingenuous to self-righteously lay claim to some “mandate” for electoral reform. If memory serves, they also had a mandate to keep the deficit below $10 billion and take in only 25,000 refugees, but they seem to have conveniently forgotten about those “mandates.”
commented 2016-05-19 21:53:56 -0400
“65% to 70% of Canadians who voted were against the Conservative party. "

And 60% of voters didnt vote for the Liberals. That’s what happens when we have more than 2 parties. Most people didnt vote for Trudeau, they voted to get the CPC out. Not the same thing. Those who did vote for Trudeau are going to get buyer’s remorse.
commented 2016-05-19 21:41:46 -0400
The Conservatives are not agreeing to any proposal and they will be seen as uncooperative and they have been on this matter. They are only fear-mongering. I agree very much with Monsef that the Conservative party is scaring the Canadian public when in fact 65% to 70% of Canadians who voted were against the Conservative party. That is something Conservatives have to be aware of. The Liberals have passed nothing yet. They are just bringing up several alternatives to change the system. It is important that the Liberals do not rig the system, but it is important that all Canadians be engaged. To me, Goldy by this theme for her show does seem to be tied to the hip of the Conservative party and it shows. She has no semblance of independence from that party on this matter.
commented 2016-05-19 21:30:11 -0400
FAITH , as always, energizing and insightful
And as the Feds get close to that dirty deed , you will shine your spot light on them
commented 2016-05-19 21:28:10 -0400
After they change the system, you’ll never get rid of them, because it will be designed to guarantee the left seats under a number of parties, who will act as one party.