September 19, 2018

Alleslev's floor crossing: Flawed system makes Liberal MP an “instant Conservative”

David MenziesMission Specialist

The first day of Parliament after summer recess started with a bang thanks to Liberal backbencher Leona Alleslev crossing the floor to become an instant Conservative.


It’s a boost for the Andrew Scheer Conservatives and a bump in the road for the Justin Trudeau Liberals.

Alleslev gave several reasons for her decision in her farewell speech on Monday, and we can speculate about any other unspoken reasons that might exist.

Does she sense a sea-change coming in her riding of Oak Ridges-Aurora-Richmond Hill which she only won by slightly more than 1,000 votes?

Maybe Alleslev’s floor-crossing simply boils down to an act of political self-preservation?

Whatever her true motivation for switching teams, it’s a moot point because this flaw in our system needs to be fixed regardless of who is crossing over to where!

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commented 2018-09-20 09:49:38 -0400
I am happy to hear this. Leona realizes the damage being done by the
Foolish Liberal party. Wouldn’t it be great if more of the Liberal party came to
Their senses and did the same as Leona ?
commented 2018-09-20 09:05:01 -0400
Remember when rich daddies little girl Belinda Stronach dumped MacKay and her Party and joined the Paul Martin Government?
That wasn’t too well received at the time either.
commented 2018-09-20 07:39:18 -0400
I posted this link in another thread before The Rebel touched this topic, I mentioned then and will mention again – something smells!! One simply does not cross the floor from one party and straight into such a prominent position in another party, something happened behind closed doors that we little peons are not privy to. Whatever they say for the media is all choreographed window dressing to make it sound plausible.

https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/conservatives-wouldn-apos-t-apos-155703994.html
Scheer ushered Alleslev into the Conservative caucus, making his new MP the critic for global security
commented 2018-09-20 07:11:43 -0400
Being a corrupt Lieberal should be made painful and illegal.
commented 2018-09-20 04:27:15 -0400
Liza Rosie damn rights.
Stephen Hicken agreed,they should not be able to represent another party as they were not voted in as a member of the new party.
commented 2018-09-19 23:28:44 -0400
‘Same as quitting a job with one crooked company to go to work for the competition. If the Constituents don’t like it; vote her out’.
commented 2018-09-19 22:38:55 -0400
Paul McCullough, that is unusual, and the other thing that’s different in this incidence is that when Ms. Alleslev gave her final speech in the House of Commons as a Liberal it was the first time in my life that I can remember listening to a Liberal for six full minutes without hearing a single word I could disagree with. Not a single word.
That NEVER happens…
commented 2018-09-19 21:49:08 -0400
DAN MANCUSO commented 1 hour ago
LIZA ROSIE commented 4 hours ago
I don’t know what’s going on, but I don’t trust any of them anymore.

BINGO!
…………………………

Same here…
commented 2018-09-19 21:12:39 -0400
What makes this floor crossing a bit different is that she went from a party in power to a party of opposition. It usually doesn’t go that way.
commented 2018-09-19 20:30:53 -0400
“All I am saying is that I would not object to a law requiring them to sit independent until the next general election campaign.”

Well LEE, they have that option any way. Whether they sit as an Independent or join the ranks of another party, they will be held accountable by voters in the next election.
commented 2018-09-19 20:19:27 -0400
LIZA ROSIE commented 4 hours ago
I don’t know what’s going on, but I don’t trust any of them anymore.
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BINGO!
commented 2018-09-19 18:58:06 -0400
Jamie MacMaster, I am not in any way suggesting that floor crossing should be outlawed. All I am saying is that I would not object to a law requiring them to sit independent until the next general election campaign.
One thing I DO object to, and very strongly, is the idea of having a law that would require an elected member who leaves their party mid-term to resign their seat and force a by-election. By-elections are expensive, the voter turnout is always abysmal, and what if the member quits eight months before the next general election? Is that too late for a by-election? Why bother drawing that line?
Here in Calgary we had a PC MLA who resigned from his party in protest of Alison Redford’s leadership as premier and completed his term sitting as an independent. Later that year, Len Webber was was elected as a Conservative MP in the new riding of Calgary-Confederation. He was replaced as MLA by Sandra Jansen, who later jumped from the PC party, right over the heads of the Liberal party and the Alberta Party, straight into Rachel Notley’s loony-left NDP cabinet without a by-election.
I’m no gambler, but I would bet that in next year’s elections Leona Allelev’s chances of getting elected as a Conservative will be one hell of a lot better than Sandra Jansen’s chances of getting elected as a Dipper.
commented 2018-09-19 18:12:45 -0400
I absolutely agree with you, David. It’s something I’ve been saying for years. Very few people vote with the candidate for their riding on the top of their minds. They vote for the Party they want to see in power. I know that’s my mind-set when I vote. That’s the one flaw with the Parliamentary system. One may want to see a particular Party in power but they can’t vote for the Party directly. They have to vote for the candidate that represents that Party. Crossing the floor is a betrayal of the constituents and a betrayal of democracy. Occasionally, there may come a time when an elected representative can no longer in good conscience support the aims and goals of the Party to which they were elected. When that happens, I believe it then incumbent on that elected representative to publicly resign stating their reasons, and then run again in a by-election, either as an independent or as the a candidate for a Party that more closely represents their values.
commented 2018-09-19 18:05:23 -0400
“… if Parliament or any provincial legislature were to pass a law requiring floor-crossers to finish out their term as an independent I personally wouldn’t have any objection to that….”

Well, I would certainly object, LEE HORSMAN. Tell you why.

First of all, I am against more laws….we have more than enough, thank you.

But second, and most importantly, is the notion that MPs, MPPs, MLAs are elected to represent the people in their riding – they are not elected to be the party representative or the PM’s representative to people in the riding. The responsibility is supposed to flow from the bottom up, not the top down.

So if you think of it from that perspective, we would lose one of the few checks and balances that we have against bad government if we were to outlaw floor-crossings.
commented 2018-09-19 17:33:10 -0400
Every instance of floor-crossing is different, and if Parliament or any provincial legislature were to pass a law requiring floor-crossers to finish out their term as an independent I personally wouldn’t have any objection to that.
Leona Alleslev was elected as a Liberal in Aurora-Oak Ridges-Richmond Hill by a margin of less than 1100 votes, and what nobody seems to be considering here is the possibility that some of those people voted for Leona Alleslev NOT because she was the Liberal candidate, but because she was Leona Alleslev.
if the same pool of voters re-elect her as a Conservative by a significantly wider margin, wouldn’t that pretty much shoot down in flames the idea of a “one size fits all solution” for floor-crossers?
My favorite moment on any election night is when a candidate, win or lose, reminds us that “the people have spoken, and the people are always right.”
commented 2018-09-19 17:08:46 -0400
“Crossing the floor to another party is tantamount to having the freedom to change your mind …”

Dead on, BILLY HOWARD. And it’s up to the electorate to decide if she changed her mind as and act of self-preservation, or as a matter of principle.
commented 2018-09-19 16:38:08 -0400
I don’t know what’s going on, but I don’t trust any of them anymore.
commented 2018-09-19 16:24:32 -0400
While one appreciates this blow to the Liberals, Dave you make a good point about the flaw in the system.
commented 2018-09-19 16:16:17 -0400
An MP who crosses the floor should automatically be an independent for the rest of their term then run in what ever party they want if they are accepted by that party…
commented 2018-09-19 16:10:38 -0400
Have to disagree with you Menzoid.
Crossing the floor to another party is tantamount to having the freedom to change your mind because of some overt reason (Justin’s utter failure). It’s rebellion w/o firing a weapon.
Remember, she still needs to officially be designated as the riding’s candidate in the next election – democracy delayed, if you will.
I’m sure Maxime Bernier is hoping some MPs will cross over to his team through utter frustration with their leader and attraction towards PPC policies. The Libs and NDP hope for the same.
That’s politics in a democracy and a good way to keep gov’ts in check, especially if their majority is slim.
commented 2018-09-19 16:10:13 -0400
A short walk for Leona Alleslev and an amber light for Scheer, who is quite possibly a false flag Liberal, or at least a UN puppet. Have the Conservatives just had another Liberal Spy Bot placed among them?