June 16, 2018

Ford must RESIST Liberal grovelling for official party status

David MenziesMission Specialist

 

The magic number for official party status in Ontario is eight seats and the Liberals finished this election with seven, one seat shy of holding official party status.

As it stands now, Liberals will not receive a portion of the funds distributed among official parties for research, staff salaries and other perks.

Liberal MPPs will essentially operate as independents and will be excluded from debates in the legislature where time is divided evenly between recognized parties.

The eight-seat rule isn’t hard and fast though, and in the past some Premiers have changed them, others have not. The usual suspects are pestering Premier-elect Ford to turn a blind eye to the rules and give Liberals official party status.

Watch as I give a reminder of how past Premiers have dealt with this issue and explain why Premier Ford should resist the Liberal grovelling.

As it stands, Ford says he’ll discuss the issue with his team in the days ahead but based on precedent alone, he should tell Wynne and company to hold a bake sale if they need to raise funds.

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commented 2018-06-17 13:38:01 -0400
Jill Ward….I like your idea of Ford sending the Border Jumpers back to Quebec where they were let in. Fortunately the Quebec people didn’t ask for them either; in fact they are the only Province to have the guts to protest against the way Trudeau let them in.

I read that 63% of them are welcomed in Canada. I guess that means most of them are working and paying taxes. (Not) They are likely having lots of children, in order to increase their Welfare Cheques.
commented 2018-06-17 13:31:01 -0400
Andrew the fake PhD Stephenson, they downgraded because of Wynne’s election budget, Ford is not Premier yet. They accumulated their data and formulated their decision BEFORE he was Premier Elect. They don’t do it on a whim the night before. You are a fool that opens his mouth and removes all doubt that you certainly do NOT possess a PhD, let alone a high school diploma.
commented 2018-06-17 13:21:40 -0400
More spin but what else can be expected.
commented 2018-06-17 13:10:25 -0400
I don’t need to spin – the timing speaks for itself.

If Ford is going to solve Ontario’s woes, then why did they downgrade Ontario AFTER he got elected? Remember, these are like credit ratings – they rate risk on future borrowing.

Like Fitch said, it doesnt’ look like Ford is actually going to solve the Liberal mess. Perhaps you belieive differently, but you’re hardly an impartial source.
commented 2018-06-17 12:30:51 -0400
The troll commented – ""The departing government’s tabled 2018 budget for fiscal 2019 forecast a return to annual deficits financed by debt issuance, a trajectory that appears likely to remain in place by the incoming PC party" Fitch said in a statement""

Spin troll spin troll. Any and all downgrades are courtesy of the Liberals. Ford doesn’t take office until June 29. What’s the current count? three, four downgrades thanks to the Liberals? geez getting to be so many it is easy to lose track.

April 18, 2018
http://brianlilley.com/wynneing-moodys-downgrades-ontario/

Moody’s downgraded Ontario’s credit rating today from “stable” to “negative” and how some warnings about the books in the future. The reason for this downgrade? The Wynne budget that ramped up spending in a bid to stay in power.

April 18, 2018
http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/ontario-government-financial-outlook-changed-to-negative-moodys

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/ontarios-credit-rating-downgraded-over-heavy-debt-load-budgeting/article25334122/

https://www.thestar.com/business/economy/2015/07/06/sp-downgrades-ontario.html

All the way back to 2012, darn those pesky conservatives in power, oh wait it was the LIBERALS
Apr 26, 2012
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/moody-s-downgrades-ontario-credit-rating-1.1287800
http://www.canadianbusiness.com/business-news/moodys-downgrades-ontarios-credit-rating/
https://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/moody-s-downgrades-ontario-s-credit-rating-1.801469
http://business.financialpost.com/news/economy/sp-cuts-ontario-credit-outlook-to-negative-from-stable
commented 2018-06-17 12:09:53 -0400
Further to Bravo’s post, “Stop construction of ALL green electrical power systems …”

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/blogs/ontario-s-flawed-electricity-system-subsidizes-neighbouring-jurisdictions
“A recent study by the Ontario Society of Professional Engineers (OSPE) found that cheap exports of surplus clean electricity—nuclear, solar, wind and hydro—could have cost Ontario up to $1.25 billion over 21 months.
The study states that between 2016 and the first nine months of 2017, Ontario exported clean electricity to neighbouring provinces and states such as Manitoba, Michigan, New York and Quebec at lower prices than what it costs to produce, costing Ontario between $732 million and $1.25 billion.”

Interesting how quickly this was swept under the rug:
https://globalnews.ca/news/1094074/exporting-surplus-electricity-cost-ontario-1-billion-in-2013-ndp/
commented 2018-06-17 12:01:38 -0400
“Hyacinth commented 18 mins ago
“The silence about Doug Ford’s budgetary arithmetic problem and Ontario’s credit downgrade on Friday speaks volumes”

SPIN SPIN SPIN TROLL. Ford is not the reigning Premier yet, he is just the elect currently, that downgrade is due to and still under your beloved Liberals’ watch. "

Yet they downgrade Ontario AFTER Ford is elected. If he’s going to sav e the province, why would they demonstrate reduced confidence in the future?

""The departing government’s tabled 2018 budget for fiscal 2019 forecast a return to annual deficits financed by debt issuance, a trajectory that appears likely to remain in place by the incoming PC party" Fitch said in a statement"
commented 2018-06-17 11:57:41 -0400
I am reposting this opinion piece by Lorrie Goldstein, published April 21/18.

http://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/goldstein-premier-wynne-trying-to-win-re-election-by-driving-her-government-into-unprecedented-debt-ignoring-the-huge-economic-damage-its-already-caused

Ontarians have cut the Liberals loose and Doug Ford needs to remind them of this whenever the media party and small group of elected Libs beg, grovel and whine about the rules.
commented 2018-06-17 11:38:02 -0400
The grovelling will be backed by vicious attacks from the media- most of which love their federal dollars.

Beat the feds at their own game and use the not withstanding clause to make them go away and cry.

Use it at EVERY turn to stymie the limp wristed fool who calls himself the prime minister.

And DO NOT visit any mosques.

Build a giant refinery to take Alberta oil. Sell it at a “made in Ontario”
price and ONLY sell it to people and businesses that are working on Ontario.

Money will flow in to Ontario in record amounts.

Stop construction of ALL green electrical power systems – there is so much electricity in Ontario that it is actually FORCED to GIVE IT AWAY and sometimes actually PAY the Americans to take it!! Yeah – truth that most do not know.

http://www.ieso.ca/en

I do not have the numbers for last year – but the year before Ontario paid over a billion dollars to get the Americans to take the excess.
commented 2018-06-17 11:37:51 -0400
“The silence about Doug Ford’s budgetary arithmetic problem and Ontario’s credit downgrade on Friday speaks volumes”

SPIN SPIN SPIN TROLL. Ford is not the reigning Premier yet, he is just the elect currently, that downgrade is due to and still under your beloved Liberals’ watch.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4262471/ontario-premier-designate-doug-ford/
Ontario Premier-designate Doug Ford takes office on June 29
commented 2018-06-17 11:34:01 -0400
The silence about Doug Ford’s budgetary arithmetic problem and Ontario’s credit downgrade on Friday speaks volumes. Had the Libs won and Ontario been downgraded it I’m sure it would be repeated constantly. The Fan Club hypocritically doesn’t want to hold their hero accountable!
commented 2018-06-17 11:33:01 -0400
I want Ford to send all the "illegals’ back to Quebec and let them and trudeau pay for them out of their pockets-NOT MINE AND NOT ONTARIOS!!!!!!! WE DIDN’T INVITE THEM AND THEY WILL NO DOUBT CONTRIBUTE NOTHING BUT BILLS, MORE MOUTHS TO FEED, NEVER WORK, NEVER CONTRIBUTE, NEVER ASSIMILATE, ALWAYS DEMANDING ,COMPLAINING AND IGNORING THE LAWS OF THE LAND AND I FOR ONE HAVE HAD ENOUGH AS I CAN BARELY PAY FOR MY OWN LIFE AFTER THEIR ENTITLEMENT COSTS ARE DEDUCTED FROM MY PAYCHEQUE BEFORE I EVEN GET TO SEE IT MYSELF! ENOUGH OF PAYING FOR THE WORLD!! GO HOME, FIX YOUR OWN COUNTRIES AND STAY OUT OF MINE! I CAN’T FEED MY OWN FAMILY , BUY MY MEDICATIONS AND DRIVE MY CAR IN THE SAME MONTH ANYMORE!! BUT ALL THIS ILLEGAL TRASH LIVES BETTER THAN MY FAMILY DOES AND THEY DON’T HAVE TO PAY ONE CENT IN TAXES, SAVE FORRETIREMENT’, PAY FOR MEDICATIONS, DRUGS, DENTISTRY, GLASSES AND SO ON AS THEY GET THE GOLD PLATED HEALTH CARE WHICH TRUDEAU GETS WHILE WE ARE DENIED MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND HAVE TO PAY,PAY , PAY!! AGAIN , I WANT FORD TO REMOVE THEM ALL SO OUR OWN HOMELESS WILL HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE, FOOD, HEALTH CARE , HEAT AND WHATEVER ELSE THEY ARE ENTITLED TO AS CANADIANS- INCLUDING AND ESPECIALLY OUR VETS WHO ARE ON THE STREETS! TIME TO LOOK AFTER CANADA AND CANADIANS FIRST AND FOREMOST AND ALL THE TRAITORS /ANTI CANADIANS (TRUDEAU ETC.) CAN ALL LEAVE CANADA PERMANENTLY~!~!
commented 2018-06-17 11:24:15 -0400
Ford also MUST remove the carbon tax from Ontarians! Trudeau said he won’t allow this , but who gives a rats ass what this psychopath wants! He breaks the laws of the land and Parliamentary/domocratic laws EVERY SINGLE DAY PLUS IS MOVING FORWARD TO COMPLETELY BANKRUPT WE CANADIANS SO WE ARE COMPLETELY UNDER HIS FULL CONTROL! AGAIN, he hasn’t enough BRAIN CELLS to tie his own shoes!!
Go to the TORONTOSUN.CA AND READ: GOLDSTEIN: Trudeau’s ‘secret’ carbon price exposed

WE CANADIANS AREN’T GOING TO HAVE TWO DIMES TO RUB TOGETHER IF THIS CARBON TAX ISN’T REMOVED AND MORE IMPORTANTLY IF THIS PSYCHOPATH/TYRANT IS NOT REMOVED AND IT LOOKS LIKE HE ISN’T GOING TO BE REMOVED ESPECIALLY WITH ALL THE THIRD WORLD CRIMINALS, PARASITES/TERRORISTS WANDERING IN AT LARGE AND HOPPING ON THE GRAVY TRAIN PAID FOR BY WE CANADIANS WHO ARE LOSING OUR JOBS, PAYING MORE AND MORE AND MORE FOR EVERYTHING, OUR DOLLAR IS TANKING , INTEREST RATES ARE CLIMBING AND CANADA IS ALREADY BANKRUPT BECAUSE OF TRUDEAU!!! Add to this the shutting down of our oil industry, the government takeover of the pipeline which will fill THEIR POCKETS WHILE THE OIL GOES TO CHINA AND WE CONTINUE TO IMPORT ISLAMIC/SAUDI OIL AT TOP OPEC PRICING!!
ARE YOU ALL COMMITTING SUICIDE OR SIMPLY IGNORANT AND WILLFULLY SO??
TRUDEAU IS ALSO BORROWING FROM ALL OVER THE GLOBE IN ORDER TO CONTINUE BLOWING ON THE ISLAMIC THIRD WORLD HOLES AND THE CORRUPT, ISLAMIC CONTROLLED U.N.! FACT! HE ALSO IS STEALING OUR TAX DOLLARS TO STUFF IN HIS FOUNDATION AND TO HIDE ($7 BILLION) SO HE CAN BLOW ON HIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN WHILE BRINGING INTO LAW FOR THE OPPOSITION CAMPAIGNS THAT THEY MAY ONLY SPEND SO MUCH WHILE HE CAN BLOW BILLIONS OF OUR TAX DOLLARS AND BRING IN ILLEGAL FOREIGN MONEY TO BUY YOUR VOTES – until he is in power again and then we all will be SHUT OUT!!BTW HE ALSO IS STEALING FROM OUR CANADA PENSION WHILE HE AFTER 4 YEARS LEFT AS PRIME MINISTER WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE HIMSELF A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR PENSION FOR LIFE!!! FACT JUST A CHRETIEN DID!!
So you all understand, the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES ONLY HAS A PENSION OF AROUND $300 THOUSAND PER YEAR AND THERE ARE TEN TIMES THE PEOPLE PAYING TAXES IN THE U.S., THEIR ECONOMY IS FLYING HIGH, THEIR BORDERS ARE BEING PROTECTED, THEIR MILITARY IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD AND THEY ALL HAVE JOBS- OH AND THEIR DOLLAR IS ALSO FLYING HIGH!!!!! FACT!!
commented 2018-06-17 10:50:48 -0400
A trip down memory lane for those who have forgotten:
https://jackandcokewithalime.blogspot.com/2011/03/list-of-ontario-liberal-premier-dalton.html
From the link – “Without a doubt, Dalton McGuinty is the most scandal-plagued, tax-spend-and-waste, unethical, integrity-deficient Premier that Ontario has ever had in its entire history.”
That statement was true but now Wynne holds that honor yet Ford is contemplating giving official party status to the Libtards? How many times must NO be said? The Liberals made their bed let them lay in it.
commented 2018-06-17 10:23:24 -0400
Recent history should warn Ford not to give Liberals Party Status as it gives the losing Party a chance to rebuild and DEFEAT THE WINNER.
This happened to Gordon Campbell in the 2001 BC Election when he wiped out the NDP, leaving them with only 2 seats. He gave them Party Status in order to look like he was governing for ALL the Province.
The NDP re-built and unfortunately they now run BC.

Doug Ford, don’t make the same mistake as Premier Campbell.
http://www.timescolonist.com/news/local/b-c-greens-achieves-party-status-but-it-comes-with-less-funding-1.23064883
commented 2018-06-17 09:39:52 -0400
Daniel Sphincter Clooney, I wouldn’t trade my life for George’s ever. He is a complete fool, completely out of touch with reality, lives in a bubble/vacuum, just like you. My life is quite rewarding, and as a “monkey”, you should thank this monkey and all the rest that provide you the petroleum based products you use daily to spew your drivel, fully clothed I assume, warm, with all your luxuries. Your welcome you hypocritical ungrateful doofus.
commented 2018-06-17 09:28:14 -0400
If Doug is going to be a stewart of public tax dollars then he should not spend a penny more on giving the Liberals official party status. They made their bed, let them sleep in it
commented 2018-06-17 09:25:00 -0400
Tammie, you do just fine, and your post to the troll is bang on. As others have said, it is pure entertainment to watch the idiot self destruct, just like his sister Hillary down south. Keep it up Tammie, the entertainment just gets better, albeit somewhat (very) nauseous. The troll is pure liberal, just one clear sign is the vulgar language used when losing.
commented 2018-06-17 09:17:12 -0400
Thank you Hyacinth. I do get a lot out of the links you post, and, appreciate your contributions to the site.
commented 2018-06-17 09:12:08 -0400
The Election of Doug Ford close a Very Dark Chapter for the people of Ontario!

It marks the end of an Evil Empire…

No more choosing between having Xmas lights or eating , no more promoting sexual deviance and the Office of the Premiere will no longer serve as a opportunity for Evil to utilize it to further their own personal agenda/beliefs.

I cannot state in words how much I oppose giving the Wynn Liberals so much as a postage stamp funded by tax payers money…
commented 2018-06-17 09:11:00 -0400
Boy the foul mouthed Liberal trolls are but hurt . Go haunt the CBC comment section . Oh that’s right they shut it down when they don’t like the truth coming out .
Remember Wynne saying she could hear 5 different languages being spoken at her community centre . Did that include English or French ? And of the 5 could they speak English or French ? And I wonder who voted for her ? Daniel Ocean how original . But thank you trolls for supporting the Rebel with your $8 tax funded donations but get some mouth wash .
commented 2018-06-17 09:02:37 -0400
Tammie your posts are always of high caliber, very informative to say the least, the troll on the other hand is only useful to get a laugh from. He must be truly masochistic at heart since he seems to love being repeatedly shown in error and then banned for the vulgarity and slander he resorts to when he knows he has lost the debate/conversation. I say kudos to him for we all need some laughter time to time (laughter is good for the soul) and he usually manages to provide that laughter. Keep up the excellent work Tammie, we appreciate the info you post.
commented 2018-06-17 08:46:50 -0400
Just realized in an earlier post I have a typo re: Executive Order. It should read Dec.21/17 . Sorry for not proofreading as well as I should have.
commented 2018-06-17 08:43:40 -0400
Hyacinth, the troll of many names is one mal-adjusted, foul mouthed fool.
It’s like watching a train wreck week after week….
commented 2018-06-17 08:39:03 -0400
Hyacinth To further your point ,I don’t recall Tammie ever using profane language to make a point which the trolladytes always have to resort.
Ford promised to listen and the majority of Ontarians want no magnanimity extended to Wynne ,the Queen of High Hydro Bills .
commented 2018-06-17 08:06:22 -0400
No to granting the Liberals party status. They are broke just like they caused Ontario to be. They simply crave more taxpayer loot.
When an incumbent party gets beat this badly they haven’t earned the privilege of official Party status.
commented 2018-06-17 07:34:38 -0400
Screw the Liberals . They have screwed the people of Ontario enough .
Now today good old boy Bob Rae saying Canadians support bringing in migrants from Myanmar . Another Liberal lie . But I told you this would happen .
The people of Ontario spoke so what are they going to do move the goal post again . Doug you want to save tax dollars this is a no brainer just say you are following the rules .
commented 2018-06-17 05:35:36 -0400
Ok.. Somebody who is more into more tracking these things… Where is this “Daniel Ocean” coming from.. What? Not Jimmy Da Silva in yet another, another iteration?…
commented 2018-06-17 01:58:25 -0400
George Clooney, the man who wanted open borders and migrants to flood Europe…demanded it actually, then decided to hoof it back to the States when these migrants he screeched about really got out of hand and created a security risk. His smug claims DJT would never be President will forever confirm that like most leftists, he firmly believes his wishful thinking is reality. Poor George Clooney, he just keeps getting it wrong!!!

Sphincter/Ocean, though the heavily edited IG report presented/released by Rosenstein appears to be lacking major bombshells…suggest you read it anyway. HRC and the CF will have to face Huber. Hint, read the Executive Order dated Dec.17/18

Obama and much of his Administration will also have much to answer for.

As for the rest of your blather, it’s quite pathetic for you to think I’m supposed to take direction and heed the demands from a miscreant who has repeatedly called me a C**T among other things. I have no interest in discussing the Statement of Claim with you today, tomorrow, next week etc…
Given how quickly you devolve into absolute crassness and name calling, it’s justification for me to dismiss you and leave threads….
Also, I find you odd and creepy, not all that long ago, you demanded I set a time and location to meet you " to debate with a mutually acceptable moderator ", you fantasized about this an entire weekend…I absolutely refused…you then thought it appropriate for me to provide personal info so that this could happen via Skype and be uploaded on YouTube….yep, f***ing creepy and weird!!!
commented 2018-06-17 00:50:07 -0400
I thought Lee’s Idea a few days ago was a pretty good idea, pretty much the same as others have posted….no special treatment for the liberal parasites.

I’m re-posting Lee’s comment:

LEE HORSMAN commented 6 days ago
Three things need to happen before Premier-Elect Ford’s Progressive-Conservative government can allow the Ontario Liberals official party status:
1.) Kathleen Wynne must resign as a MPP and get lost, forever.
2.) The Liberal candidate must win the by-election to replace Kathleen Wynne as a MPP.
3.) There needs to be another by-election in a riding not presently held by a Liberal, and the Liberal candidate needs to win that by-election.
In other words, if the Ontario Liberals want to regain official party status, the ONLY way they can be allowed to do that is if they earn it the old-fashioned way; by winning the MINIMUM number of seats in elections.
The people of Ontario have spoken, and Premier Ford would be making a significant mistake if he were to over-rule them.