April 04, 2015

Former Lib PM blasts Harper's plans

Brian LilleyArchive

Paul Martin, the juggernaut that wasn't, is attacking his successor at 24 Sussex Drive.

Martin, who gained admiration across Canada and around the world for tackling Canada's deficit problem in the 1990s, now says the federal government should spend more and run deficits. Martin was finance minister in Jean Chretien's Liberal government from 1993 to 2002 but quit during an attempted coup to over throw Chretien and become prime minister himself.

Martin eventually did become prime minister, holding that office from December 2003 to February 2006 when he handed power over to Stephen Harper and his Conservatives.

In an interview with CBC Radio's The House, Martin called the Conservative economic plan, "an absolute disgrace."

Martin told host Evan Solomon that Finance Minister Joe Oliver should be opening the taps to run a stimulus program, just as the Bank of Canada has been doing by making borrowing cheaper with low interest rates.

"Fiscal policy and monetary policy have to work hand in hand, they cannot contradict each other," Martin said. "If the governor of the central bank is talking about the need for monetary stimulus, he also understands there has to be changes made in the [fiscal policy] and those changes have to be investments."

Martin called for more federal spending in areas such as education - a provincial responsibility - and municipal infrastructure. The Harper government points to the $53 billion New Building Canada Plan as proof they are investing in the future.

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commented 2015-04-06 22:12:38 -0400
All the more reason for this place. They have to be peeking once in awhile.
commented 2015-04-06 13:38:48 -0400
@ Jim – " you disagree with Martin the CBC comment censor police “disabled your content”"

The CBC comment police are quite hostile to any post that does not fit their left wing agenda, no matter what the article. Only the most benign right wing comments get through and even then it is hit and miss, but when I am luck enough to be a post past the comment censor police, the left wing replies to my post are always full of vile swears, innuendos, insults, hate and bile. Funny how the hate-the-right-winger posts gets past the censor police all the time.
commented 2015-04-06 13:14:44 -0400
Another one of those stories that if you disagree with Martin the CBC comment censor police “disabled your content”. They are in full campaign mode for the Boy Blunder at your expense!
commented 2015-04-06 08:14:53 -0400
Just like a Liberal! Run a large deficit because the want a stimulus package. Then when you do these same Liberals then blame you for having a deficit! What a stupid ass!!!!! I can only thank the ROC for not giving this idiot the Prime Minister’s job. That’s all we need is another Liberal spend a holiday with no accountability like we have in Ontario.
But did Martin say once that increasing the CCP contributions or having the provinces set up their own would be a very bad idea and hurt the economy. Now he is backing Wynne ’ s Liberals to do just that! What a hypocrite!
commented 2015-04-06 07:53:21 -0400
Pretty funny, the king of pork ethical issue with fiscal policy free of pork.
When Martin comes clean about his CSL and powercorp conflict of interest, I may listen to him, until that day he’s just another grubby pork barreling Librano to me. Fiscal responsibility to debt repayment was so compromised under his watch special deals with the IMF had to be made to keep the loony floating. We are suffering the fallout of those “deals” today and so will our children.
commented 2015-04-06 01:44:17 -0400
Yes spend money now so you kids can pay for it later, this sounds like someone else we know down south. O
commented 2015-04-05 23:33:31 -0400
Wonder what flag Martin’s ships use today?
commented 2015-04-05 21:55:06 -0400
I like saving money…saving money is good. Go Conservatives!
commented 2015-04-05 14:19:01 -0400
“an absolute disgrace”? what is an absolute disgrace is cbc.ca censorship… shaping opinions one article at a time.
commented 2015-04-05 11:21:20 -0400
Canada is standing almost alone with a relatively stable economy. The last thing we should do is to lose that advantage by debasing the Canadian dollar and shafting both our trading partners and ourselves in one ill-considered move.
commented 2015-04-05 09:41:59 -0400
Paul Martin got his azz handed to him by PM Harper. I guess he still hasn’t got over it.
commented 2015-04-05 02:22:52 -0400
They are counting on being able to string along all these stary eyed young left wingers with no knowledge of even recent politics in this country. The cbc basically writes the script, they can spin any way they want. The large majority of new young voters won’t know the difference. Rewrite history, have at er!
commented 2015-04-05 02:06:15 -0400
“The CBC thinks people don’t have a memory.”
Oh, that must be why when I go to that site I loose my mind.

“It would seem logical that the CBC should be stressing these at least items by running them for 4 -5 days.”

Yea, like that will happen. :) The CBC specifically and intentionally manipulates their articles to make the Liberals look live angels and the Conservatives like devils. Paul Martin also transferred many billion (not sure the number) from E.I. to general revenue to “balance” the books in addition to off-loading the health care transfers to the provinces.
commented 2015-04-05 01:46:51 -0400
The CBC thinks people don’t have a memory. When Paul Martin was Minister of Finance, he is credited for having balanced the budget (PE Trudeau’s debt). What the CBC rarely reports or stresses is that Paul Martin took a federal structural item (eg medicare ) and loaded much of it onto the provincial gov’ts. Another item the CBC usually misses is the recession of 2008 was the worst since the great depression of 1929-1939. It would seem logical that the CBC should be stressing these at least items by running them for 4 -5 days.
commented 2015-04-05 01:36:45 -0400
If anything, the Federal Government should be spending much less on areas that are not within their responsibility under the Constitution. Have the Federal government concentrate on things like defense, foreign matters, and so forth. Drop the Federal tax take and let the Provinces take up the slack. When money is transferred through grants it is not treated the same as when it is raised through direct taxation. You will have less waste and more accountability that way.

So for Mr. Martin, Federal spending on infrastructure in municipalities (a provincial and municipal responsibility) and education (a provincial responsibility) won’t get my support.
commented 2015-04-05 01:09:08 -0400
Nicole I think government funding for the CBC should be eliminated forthwith. I have recently moved to Alberta and was shocked to see Dalton McGuinty running the province.
commented 2015-04-05 01:08:34 -0400
Good post, Nicole.

Alberta certainly is in a pickle. In a way I hope Prentice does call an early election, because I think Albertans would see that for exactly what it is . . . to take advantage of what he perceives is the condition of the only real competition, the Wildrose. I think it would work against him greater than what he might think. However, since March when the Wildrose elected Brian Jean I think the party will be ready for an election and surprise Prentice. At least that is my hope.
commented 2015-04-05 01:03:14 -0400
At the time I had no interest in politics so Paul Martin was nowhere near my radar which had no political point at all. My youth had its own problems with nowhere jobs and nowhere future. It has only been since Harper I have become interested in Canada’s leadership. I had learned long ago that you are only as good as the men you lead. Harper was stuck with a cold deck but played the game well enough to have earned my support. I will not jump ship anytime soon. I will remain part of Harpers Canada corps till he leaves and then sit back and watch who takes his place. I will be like the Liberals, a party without a rudder to steer by or a star to follow.
That being said Harper gets my vote once again this year. He has earned my respect. I want another majority win for Harper. I pray for that.
commented 2015-04-05 00:59:44 -0400
Peter I have made it a habit of giving the CBC in any shape or form a miss.
commented 2015-04-05 00:55:26 -0400
Okay everybody, please forgive my poor grammar, Paul Martin, you old Lieberal hasbeen Please GFY….
commented 2015-04-05 00:49:26 -0400
Ron, I am not sure that there are many that post on the CBC site that would have much of any education at all, but I could be wrong on that. Most of the posts have terrible grammar and spelling mistakes and generally show a lack of understanding of not only history but the reality that surrounds them.
commented 2015-04-05 00:46:23 -0400
It is NOT the responsibility of the government to create jobs!!!! It is its responsibility to ensure that the climate is amenable to job creation, by giving breaks particularly to small business owners because it is THEY who ensure a healthy economy, it is THEY who stick their necks out and work their asses off to grow their businesses, by yes, creating jobs and providing for their clients. Here in Alberta, our turncoat Conservative leader Prentice, so concerned is he to be voted back in—note the election is not due until the spring of 2016 but word is out that he wants to hurry the election (no doubt because he duped the leader of the only real opposition party to abandon her constituents and cross the floor thus ensuring that the Wildrose Party won’t have time to regroup and mount a REAL campaign)—so concerned is he to hold onto power, that even with the crippling deficit we now have he did not dare risk the unions ganging up against him in last week’s budget, and thus DID NOT CUT SALARIES WHEN THIS PROVINCE PAYS ITS GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES HIGHER WAGES THAN ANYWHERE IN CANADA !!!!!!! We have an influx of nurses from other countries, Germany even! because the wages in Alberta and the benefits are so great!
Back to Martin and the Federal issues: how typical of the paid-for-by-my-taxes-CBC to give voice to a liberal, ignoring the voice of the people who are really in charge of the books. And pablum-lapping citizens take the word of the CBC as gospel.
Don’t waiver Mr. Harper and the Conservatives, you are on the right track, even though there may be a few tremors right now. The world powers envy how well you/we are doing. Don’t listen to the noise from the likes of the Socialist and Liberal underdogs who are chomping at the bit to get to the grounds of 24 Sussex to soil with their urine. To mark the territory.
commented 2015-04-05 00:31:57 -0400
Peter I don’t think history is high on the list of subjects taken by Liberals while they were getting their political science and law degrees.
commented 2015-04-05 00:13:52 -0400
Agreed Peter. Ralph wasn’t perfect but he loved the province and left it in good shape.
commented 2015-04-05 00:02:38 -0400
Liza, I think that even those that vote PC in Alberta will probably vote Conservative federally too.

I certainly do hope there are enough to vote Wildrose to give them a majority. We really do need to get a true conservative government back into office to straighten out the finances again. All that Ralph did went down the drain. A real shame.
commented 2015-04-04 23:56:19 -0400
“The CBC will be running this story as though it’s gospel. Look for the suggestion of a halo over Martin’s head in any pictures attached to the story. "

I went to the CBC site article about Paul Martin and Valerie was right about the first statement. No halo though, but maybe I have to look at the picture with left winger eyes .. well, that isn’t going to happen.

I made a post about the Liberals taking from E.I. and from the provinces to get their $13 billion “surplus” and got the usual flurry of posts of hate and anger, calling me a liar and a few other choice words. What a left wing bastion of self-deluded people who love to rewrite history to fit their own delusions. However, my experiment had the expected result.
commented 2015-04-04 23:16:32 -0400
But Albertans who vote Wildrose provincially will vote Conservative federally.
commented 2015-04-04 22:56:15 -0400
" I hope Brian Jean is up to the task"

That makes two of us.
commented 2015-04-04 22:43:54 -0400
Don’t expect support from Alberta Joan we’re fed up with the entitled beurocrats. Danielle Smith was about to become premier here. We gotta kick them out for at least one term. I hope Brian Jean is up to the task
commented 2015-04-04 22:35:37 -0400
That sure sounds good to me Joan. It certainly has felt like law written by Parliament has been ignored.
“Once the New Building Canada Plan is in place, those at the provincial and municipal levels that don’t respect the will of the people as expressed by MPs we elect will be marginalized.”
awesome! I hope we can pull it off.