July 14, 2016

Former PC MLA Dave Quest lost to “gender-queer” SJW, now joins “shrill chorus” denouncing Kenney

Sheila Gunn ReidRebel Host | The Gunn Show

Yet another Progressive Conservative joins the shrill chorus of the panicked and scared who reject the idea of Jason Kenney leading their party under a pro unity mandate with the Wildrose. 

Former PC MLA Dave Quest doesn’t like the idea of Jason Kenney leading the PCs, taking his place in line behind another former PC MLA Thomas “Landslide” Lukaszuk and current PC MLA Sandra Jansen.

Watch as I explain why no one should care what he has to say about Jason Kenney.

Quest, a Stelmach loyalist who lost the last election to a 20 something, gender queer SJW NDP MLA who never campaigned in the riding of Strathcona Sherwood Park, is clearly offering a stale version of conservatism.

What’s the definition of insanity? Doing the same thing and expecting different results.

I think we can agree it’s time to do something different with the conservative movement in Alberta.

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commented 2017-01-20 20:57:02 -0500
Jason Kenney… Go rebuild your own damn party and quit trying to ride the coattails of somebody else’s Hardwork
commented 2016-07-15 02:08:15 -0400
Those who don’t admit to Voting Ndp – they may be Embarrassed and who wouldn’t be? Libranos and Ndp have nothing to offer ❤️

ATOKENCONSERVATIVE commented 5 hours ago
It sounds to me like the voters in that riding are completely stupid. You’ve gotten sick of your current right wing politician and party, so you vote NDP? When you’ve got the option of voting WR? They deserve what they got. I’ve got a lot of relatives living in several different parts of Alberta, and I spend the weekend there recently. I asked everyone why they voted NDP, and nobody there would admit to voting anything but WR, and nobody could even name anyone they knew who would admit to voting anything but WR. WTF?
commented 2016-07-14 22:09:54 -0400
Not to worry.

As the NDP alienate more and more Albertans, thanks to the heavily medicated Notley allowing dementia to take over, I have no doubt that the wannabe Liberals in the PCs will be ousted before long. I understand the Alberta Liberals are still looking for a full time leader – maybe these three PCs could step up to that challenge. Oh, wait. A Liberal can’t get elected in Alberta; you need the name recognition of being PC to get a job.
commented 2016-07-14 20:37:43 -0400
It sounds to me like the voters in that riding are completely stupid. You’ve gotten sick of your current right wing politician and party, so you vote NDP? When you’ve got the option of voting WR? They deserve what they got. I’ve got a lot of relatives living in several different parts of Alberta, and I spend the weekend there recently. I asked everyone why they voted NDP, and nobody there would admit to voting anything but WR, and nobody could even name anyone they knew who would admit to voting anything but WR. WTF?
commented 2016-07-14 19:55:17 -0400
This, people, is why the PC party must be collapsed – it is the defacto liberal-globalist party in Alberta anD the Dips are the Marxist-globalist party – two groups of kleptocratic commies dismantling Alberta and selling it out to globalist/Laurentian elite interests – the only difference between the NDP and the PC-liberals is that the red-PCs are in not as great a hurry to collapse the province as the NDP.

WR needs to be a big tent party for conservatives, libertarians, populists and free market capitalism. Purge the reds from the PCs or fold the party and go under the WR banner – if these PC reds had to run under their true ideological banner as a liberal, they know they would never have public confidence so they infiltrated the PCs after Ralph left

commented 2016-07-14 19:10:01 -0400
Sorry, forgot to say if Kenny is going to turn the party into another politically correct Harper in appeasing bigot card playing left-wing special interest/treatment groups, at the expense of the rights of the populace majority, instead of standing up to them and maybe even calling them bigoted for thinking their particular race, gender, language, sexual orientation comes ahead of others, then forget about uniting the right, as a bigger and bigger segment of the right will not vote for any party that behaves that way, and will support a smaller party, or even an independent that will as they do not want to be taken for granted anymore
commented 2016-07-14 19:02:53 -0400
The federal Conservative party moved further to the politically correct by supporting same sex marriage, when it should have stated that if elected, they would tell LBGT activists that “marriage” is a union between a man and a woman, and they can come up with a term for same sex marriage which they will legalize, else they will come up with a term.

If they do not like enforcement of such conservative values, tough, as the left has been enforce their liberal values on others for decades, so it is about time we get a little affirmative action in this manner
commented 2016-07-14 18:17:34 -0400
I don’t care who is running the pc party. It is full of liberal wannabes, vote Wildrose and unite the right.
commented 2016-07-14 17:34:08 -0400
Who said anything about the Liberal party, NDP?! I only care about revolutionizing and making politics better as I ran in 2011.

Remember that focusing on ideology and wanting to be a hardcore member of a mainstream party means in essence being a useful idiot when no one should be too close to any party to be smart.

That is why Rebel wants to turn people into loyal foot soldiers rather than be open-minded and truly want a mind of their own rather than think critically and explore the 15 or more minor party options as I have.

So, yes, politics is serious and letting the same parties rule over us is why Canada is stagnant and why changes are needed. Levant and the rest will never say that as they are hardcore, loyal and foot soldiers of that Conservative party. They do not even shy away from their undying support for that party.
commented 2016-07-14 17:17:39 -0400
I mentioned Andrew as he usually comments on here and I suspect that he will in the future.

The fact is liberalism and liberal conservatism are not that far from each other and I do believe that a Progressive Conservative party can satisfy moderates, centrists, right of centre liberals, and moderate conservatives. Such a party would be supported by a hell of a lot more people that a populist conservative and libertarian conservative party which would be more focused on positioning than actually getting major priorities done for people living within a certain province or jurisdiction or even the federal government.

The real thing that has to be asked is whether populism on the right does anything for the nation as a whole other than riling up people. That seems to me the only intention.

And also Kenney is a career politician most likely being an MP while running to be leader of the Alberta PCs.

And yes Rebel is purposely ignoring this because they have an agenda to further I would say populist conservatism with supposed Biblical principles but even that is suspect and Kenney is not speaking to the grassroots of the standard Progressive Conservative party of Alberta. Most of them will leave and probably become either Liberals or Alberta party members.

So what sort of goal this does will just add a few points to Wildrose under a Conservative label.

Also, engaging in foul language and insults I thought were things that religious conservatives and so-called social conservatives were against. I guess to further the agenda anything will do!
commented 2016-07-14 17:09:15 -0400
And Canadian Mongrel the fact is compassionate conservatism has been around for generations.

Also there is a huge gap in the federal political spectrum since the merger and I think that Canadians want a centralist party to fill in the gaps so that we can have true and unvarnished choice in Canada.

The merger was a mistake and supporting minor parties is a hell of a lot more principled than supporting the Conservatives or Wildrose which want more privatization and less social services. The fact is disposable income did not improve under the Conservatives and Millenials have done poorly since before the financial crisis.

These are facts and Canadians seriously do need a pay increase and reducing tuition fees and real jobs which the large corporations under Harper’s corporate tax cuts have not delivered on.

The Progressive Canadian party under Sinclair Stevens would make that a priority. Red Toryism can exist and many want to refer to it as CINOism but being a moderate conservative means caring about the most vulnerable and focusing on small business and wanting a sensible foreign policy. It is smarter and Harper’s plans did not make the Mideast better, more democratic or anything.

That is the honest truth and no conservative can ever claim that foreign policy got better under any circumstances.

The PC party not to be confused with the Conservative party can be found at http://pcparty.org
commented 2016-07-14 17:05:05 -0400
And Canadian Mongrel liberal conservatism is based on variants of liberalism and conservatism. Why do you think such an ideology exists with moderate conservative parties? Ideologies yes do change from generation to generation, but you only want a narrow strip of ideology to dominate either because you were probably motivated by Reform/Alliance or you watch only right wing talk radio and only focus on politics as a game.

In the Western world, there are not too many compassionate conservative parties challenging the populist parties. Such a party is not funded by Soros or anything like that. It would moderate politics and make our foreign policy also one that is Pearsonian.

I think the Progressive Conservative alternative is a good way to root out the anti-abortionists and the people that want to take over parties which are deemed moderate.

And federally the Progressive Canadian party is a minor party and one that will truly revolutionize politics and split the Conservative party, which has by the way gotten out of power by being so narrow and so bent on wanting to serve the most hardcore people.

That is why the Conservative party lost power and will do so for many years to come.

All that is left is to decide what type of conservatism federally will follow. I hope it can be progressive conservatism and red toryism.
commented 2016-07-14 16:56:06 -0400
i find it ironic when liberals say that voted for trudeau because they are centrists… are they all just morons lying to themselves?
commented 2016-07-14 16:31:01 -0400
John Siciliano. Can you name one person on this planet who gives a flying fuck what you think about any topic? Just one person. You mention Andrew but there is no post by anyone named Andrew? Are you on the same meds as Andy Stephenson? LSD perhaps?

If you are so concerned about hypocrisy Johnny, why don’t your turn your attention to the Liberal Party as they are experts. BTW Johnny, Jason Kenney is going to root out those filthy fucking snivelling liberals out of the PC Party, so just accept that as fact. That loser Johnny Quest just got added to the list. Have a nice day Johnny and go fuck yourself.
commented 2016-07-14 16:29:12 -0400
John, where is this Andrew post you speak of? There isn’t a single poster below you named Andrew.

Also, MacDonald was not a Progressive Conservative, he was a Liberal Conservative with the ‘Liberal’ referring to the classical definition of Liberal Democracy, not the current usage. You need to take thos 1st year social ‘science’ notes and throw them in the face of your professor for incompetent teaching.
commented 2016-07-14 15:46:05 -0400
I agree with you Andrew in that this Kenney factor is about being an MP while trying to merge two parties into one. Kenney was part of the CTF in his early to mid 20s and then remained in politics and then most likely till he retires. That is the very definition of a careerist.

Canadians are for the most part centrist and why they elected the Liberals. I want the PCs to exist in Alberta because it is better to have more choices and I joined the federal Progressive Canadian party at http://pcparty.org because I think there is a huge gap between the Liberals and the Conservatives.

The same impact, Andrew, will happen provincially in Alberta. The centre to centre-right should never be sacrificed at any level because it will mean a takeover by the right wing.

It has nothing to do with being slightly progressive and moderate conservative, but to me it means abandoning the moderate right for the populist right for so-called principles when those are talking points.

This is the game Rebel wants to play but think of the Progressive Conservatives or one-nation conservatives that will go to the Alberta party. That party should be making the preparations just in case.

And yet no one Rebel is complaining about Kenney holding down an MP’s salary and running for PC leader all for merging. Talk about being a pig at the trough.
commented 2016-07-14 15:45:35 -0400
When will Rebel ever take responsibility for themselves.

Progressive Conservatism is what Sir John A. wanted for Canada.

Anyone declaring that Canada should be for populist conservatism, libertarianism, continentalism, and free trade is copying the US model and abandoning Canadian Conservatism as defined from 1867 to 2003.
commented 2016-07-14 15:43:43 -0400
Where is the voice for progressive conservatives? Jason Kenney sounds when he is campaigning as if he just wants merge for the sake of merging without caring about PCs. Where do PCs go?! I hope that becomes a big topic for discussion in the leadership campaign. Kenney by bringing it up so early will no doubt cause the merger talk to be the main subject and could cause the merger to not occur!

Kenney is doing this while most likely being an MP and that speaks volumes and yet not a peep from Rebel or anyone on the site, and that proves that they are fine with running to be leader and still holding an MP’s job. That is plain and utter hypocrisy.

Kenney was also part of the CTF in the 90’s and now he probably wants a provincial and federal pension. That is the very definition of a career politician and probably someone that has never really held a real full time job.

And yet he is supposed to understand how people are feeling and doing out there?

I frankly think Canada should have a meritocracy where any party can win because if we are to believe that politicians tend to favour their own agendas then why trust Kenney? I think there should be a true multi-party democracy and mergers should be suspect!

Keeping the PC party and the Wildrose to me is better as separate parties since it allows for more points of view.
commented 2016-07-14 15:42:41 -0400
Sandy, I agree with you Brian Jean screwed up big, big time in dealing with Derek Filderbrand. Jean’s reaction to throw him out of caucus was appalling and disgusting. I also find, he has made several apologies which disgusts me. Jean just doesn’t come across for me and a lot of people I talk to. I like the name Alberta Conservative party or Wildrose Conservative party is not bad too.
commented 2016-07-14 15:33:29 -0400
This is why I say I will not through support for Kenney uniting the right. Because the PCs are festering with garbage party members. The PCs = Liberal Party, so uniting with them is actually uniting the centre, not the right.
commented 2016-07-14 15:16:02 -0400
Very well said Sheila. Quest, Jansen and Lukaszak typify the reasons for not returning the pc’s to power, and I only hope that Jason Kenney cleans them and all of their ilk out of the conservative party. I also hope he changes the name (someone suggested Wildrose Conservatives in a different thread). I personally lost a lot of respect for Brian Jean over the Derek Fildebrandt suspension, and think he still has much to learn. Jason Kenney is just the person to lead the right.
commented 2016-07-14 14:49:38 -0400
It is ironic that the P/C’s and the MSM are referring to Kenney’s bid as a hostile take over of the party.

What they do not want is for the party to revert back to the days before the hostile take over by liberals, Redford and her cronies like Jansen and Lukaszuk. It was this liberal sense of entitled liberal corruption that turned the voters against them. If the election had been called for 2016, like it should have been, the W/R would have been organized and would now be the government. The fact it was called a year early exemplifies how the P/C’s were corrupt. Notley, not being stupid, took great advantage of Albertans distrust of liberals and the W/R disorganization.

What the P/C’s need to do is unite with another party for sure…the Liberal Party of Alberta to stop vote splitting among the liberally corrupt.

Kenney’s bid, even if it fails, will highlight the P/C’s as being pure liberals in the truest regressive sense.
commented 2016-07-14 14:37:12 -0400
“progressive” is wrong with society today. Get rid of the progressives and society would take a giant leap toward sanity, security, and prosperity.
commented 2016-07-14 14:34:00 -0400
Whatever Jason does in the future will be different than what the two parties have done in the past. That is part of the cause of bringing in new leadership. The Leadership in this case can hear the different sides and then broker a deal that will win them an election and supply the population with good Governance.
The alternative is a bunch of bitching and more NDP governance and more Conservative wilderness.
commented 2016-07-14 14:33:48 -0400
Nice segment SGR!!

Sandra Jansen is an ex CTV media party whore – effectively another fucking liberal.

Dave Quest – please fuck right and go join a liberal party where you belong.

And as for Estefania-Cortes-Vargas, the gender for this thing is “COMMUNIST PIG” – you too can fuck right Cortes Fart-gas!!!
commented 2016-07-14 14:33:46 -0400
Politics in Canada has become a disgusting joke!!!!! These selfish little pricks care not about the electorate and only have their own selfish agenda in mind!!
commented 2016-07-14 14:22:21 -0400
Forget about the PC party, it’s too far gone. I thought Jason Kenney was smarter than that. Like The Saskatchewan Party, it doesn’t matter what the name is. Everyone loves Brad Wall, in Alberta it’s Brian Jean
commented 2016-07-14 14:08:42 -0400
The Alberta PC party seems to be further left than the BC Liberals and doesn’t seem a good fit for Jason Kenney. The first thing he should do is get rid of the PC label as those two words are mutually exclusive. How about the Alberta party and kick the progressives to the curb so they can join the unemployed NDPers.