April 01, 2017

Free speech restrictions in anti-vaping Bill S-5 will cost ALL Canadians

Holly NicholasRebel Commentator

With Bill S-5, the federal government is trying to pass legislation that targets electronic cigarettes and vaping. It hasn’t come into effect yet but did pass second reading and is now in committee so it’s important for Canadians to know what’s wrong with this bill. 

First, it lumps vaping into the same category as smoking tobacco, but there’s a big difference between the two.

Vaping serves as a harm reduction tool because there’s no combustion involved as there is with tobacco. And while media and government tend to demonize electronic cigarettes, a U.K. study has shown it to be 95% less harmful than smoking traditional tobacco.

Derek From, a lawyer with the Canadian Constitution Foundation, wrote a report that compares vaping legislation across the country, so he knows a lot about the laws surrounding both vaping and tobacco.

Watch as I speak with Derek about the barriers the government of Canada is putting up that will stop tobacco users from accessing much less harmful e-cigarettes.

According to the Canadian Journal of Public Health, the annual average health care cost per traditional tobacco smoker is $3,071 resulting in a direct health care cost of $4.4B per year. Further, they say the overall economic burden of smoking in 2008 was $18.4B.

Smoking rates have decreased since that time and by 2012 smoking rates decreased to 17.5%. To show what kind of savings taxpayers could realize with decreases in smoking, if that number was down to 12.5% like it is in B.C., this could save $2.8B annually.

Making the switch to electronic cigarettes could make that possible, but the government keeps getting in the way of Canadians accessing harm reduction.

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commented 2017-04-03 10:25:57 -0400
Liberal logic: Help addicts shoot up illegal drugs & obstruct smokers from quitting legal but brutal addiction. They are pathetic!
commented 2017-04-02 12:29:12 -0400
Janet Ducommun commented – "I found this report VERY disturbing. As I watched, I kept thinking,“Why, what is the motive here?”

As the Rebel found out at the UN WHO confab, it is UN-initiated agenda to salvage socialist member states tobacco tax revenues from any impact vaping may have on reducing tobacco sales. The money in tobacco is not the product but the sin tax attached. They would do something similar if there was a cheap healthier substitute for alcohol.
commented 2017-04-02 12:29:12 -0400
Janet Ducommun commented – "I found this report VERY disturbing. As I watched, I kept thinking,“Why, what is the motive here?”

As the Rebel found out at the UN WHO confab, it is UN-initiated agenda to salvage socialist member states tobacco tax revenues from any impact vaping may have on reducing tobacco sales. The money in tobacco is not the product but the sin tax attached. They would do something similar if there was a cheap healthier substitute for alcohol.
commented 2017-04-02 12:23:45 -0400
Heh, something that frees people from nicotine addiction and suppression of truth/free speech – reaffirming that there is nothing less liberal than a self declared Liberal.

I thought we would have out-grown this puerile fascistic micromanaging of our personal choices by now. Apparently not, the zombie gens like big government packed up their butt.
commented 2017-04-02 06:55:31 -0400
I am not a smoker or vaper, but I found this report VERY disturbing. As I watched, I kept thinking,“Why, what is the motive here?” I am curious to know who innitiated this bill and who have they been chatting with? Is this big pharma not wanting smokers to quit easily so they can sell more meds to hospitals/patients or is it the tobbacco industry that has seen such a dip in smoking?
Faith or Holly, this story needs some deeper digging, follow the money and you are sure to get answers and we the public, want them!
commented 2017-04-02 04:00:07 -0400
Smokers more than pay for their healthcare via cigarette taxes and most governments still make a tidy profit on top. I read a while ago that Health Canada pensions are very heavily invested in tobacco shares, so they wouldn’t want them threatened by millions more switching to vaping.

It seems to be the pharmaceutical companies who are behind a great deal of the opposition to vaping, which is competition for their cessation products and smoking related diseases treatments. Pharma fund government agencies, Tobacco Control, politicians, health charities, medical organisations, the World Health Organisation, researchers, universities, doctors and hospitals, etc. All those opposed to vaping are usually funded by pharma and are dancing to their tune. It’s never been about health, they care more about money!

Then there are the ideologues who want to see the end of smoking – allegedly. They say vaping gets in the way of this but, in reality, smoking prevalence was stagnant for a decade before vaping took off and in the western world, it’s now at an all time low. Of course those opposed, won’t admit that it’s because of vaping and try and take the credit for the swift decline. Many of the same people funded by pharma are also funded by cigarette taxes, too and millions of organisations are heavily invested in tobacco shares, which must be protected at all costs.

What they fail to realise is that by using over strict, burdensome regulations, if they’re anything like the FDA Deeming regs, they will be handing the monopoly to the tobacco companies who will be the only ones able to comply, with inferior design and enough money. If they take the flavours away, or the nicotine, or use high taxes, vape shops will close and people will buy elsewhere, so the government will lose out on their precious tax. What all these regulators and their bosses are doing on behalf of pharma and outdated thinking is threatening our health, is corrupt and they’re exploiting OUR kids to do it.
commented 2017-04-01 19:46:09 -0400
I can’t say I am too involved with this issue because I have not smoked for 37 years, except for the issue of the government trying to nanny us and take away our freedoms.
commented 2017-04-01 19:37:45 -0400
Correction, should be “Faith Goldy” :-)
commented 2017-04-01 19:35:25 -0400
Remember when faith Goldie and crew attended the UN tobacco conference? It was clear that, for whatever the reason, the “committee” was strongly anti-vaping. I suspect these ridiculous laws are actually intentional, as Canada wants to remain compliant with its UN conventions. These include the secretive UN initiatives (that no outsider is allowed to know about) regarding tobacco… The E.U. is not the only area being oppressed by unelected, unaccountable people who make up laws in closed rooms and then inflicting them on everyone else.
commented 2017-04-01 19:06:55 -0400
Daryl Herman, excellent assessment!
commented 2017-04-01 19:06:13 -0400
I watched a video and e-mailed the Rebel Team to request an investigation into whether the message via Twitter is from ISIS leader, Abu Bakr Al-Baghdad praising Iqra Khalid for taqiyya and being a “loyal servant”
See link to video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44sw_TjGcAM&t=0s
commented 2017-04-01 17:47:25 -0400
Sounds like the goberment is more addicted to the tax revenues than any of us are on tobacco!!
I know when Gary Marr – then the Minister of Health – Alberta … Doubled the price of cigarettes – to AID people in QUITTING – and it worked! – then raised them more the following year – because the tobacco revenues had dropped severely. Well, Gary – I’d say your health is more at risk – for defrauding people – than us addicted smokers!
commented 2017-04-01 16:18:11 -0400
The Liberal government is on the wrong side of everything….it’s one episode after another of the Twilight Zone.